Depth chart - what would you change
 

Sean Payton referenced "no one is safe" in yesterday's presser.

Whether next week or next year, we can expect changes to happen - coaches included.

You're Sean Payton; what changes would you make?


Depth chart attached - hope it's legible.

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no one has a job! you earn it or your kicked to the curb.

right now we have a hand full of players worth keeping as starter. in the other hand we have some solid develop mental players.

other than that 60% of this roster is up for grabs.

So with that attitude i say we have 60% that will step up and the rest will be hanging by thread.

If we end up in the top ten in draft make every one aware you are shopping the pick and looking to get picks in order to replace the deadwood you have

that should kick more than a few players in the teeth and get their heads on straight. so lets step that 60% to 75%

one coach should be safe. SP.

Strike some fear into the organization as a whole. start talking to Rex about Robs job. if Rex get canned in NY. proves you do not care about social niceties. enough is enough

All the others better find their resumes because that may need it.

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Start Knox. If he is healthy. He looked fast in preseason with some great instincts.

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Defense:

#91 > JR

Humber > Hawthorne

White > Vaccaro

Virgel > Deadrick

Powell > Haralson

Give SJB some playing time at the #2 spot. We need to see what he can do, if he flops then cut him now rather than two years from now.

Offense:

The most obvious Lelito > Badwin

Outside of that I am not sure where you go. We don't have the OG replacements in house right now. The biggest problem with the O is the lack of a true scat-back and no protection of Brees through the interior line.

**Don't worry about the spelling, it's too early for me to care.

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At this point it wouldn't surprise me if Benson cleans house after the season is over, with SP moving to a front office position. I seriously think a major shake up is needed, and SP looks like he is completely burned out and may have lost the team.

For now all they can do is attempt to put the best remaining guys in the lineup and attempt to win the division. SP sounds like he is done fighting with the bad attitudes, so about all he can do at this point is bench them and move on.

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Demote Galette to situational pass rusher and have him split reps with Edebali and Powell... Time to see what we have in Powell. Relegate Vaccaro to the third safety role. Don't really want to start Marcus Ball so maybe start Sanford and see what happens. Can't get any worse.

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here is the only spot i have i have issues with. let Powell reduce Jr playing time.

or as you suggested do the speed rush package which i am warming up to as i type.

But move Haralson into the middle at the same time and see what happens. At least we know he can cover also.


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hmmm you may have hit on something here.

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Straight up cut robinson, white, hawthorne, goodwin, and bunkley. Restructure Colston, Grubbs, Evans for pay cuts. Maybe even gallete too. Maybe start trading players for draft picks.
Fire every defensive coach, ST coach jim mcmahon. Just try to acquire as many picks and find as much cap space as possible. We can't continue to go on how we have so we need to trim the fat and dead wood. This would be after the season of course.

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I agree on cutting PRob, Hawthorne however White can at least tackle in space so he serves a purpose. Assistant coaches have done a poor job and it shows on the field. It will be interesting to see how this pans out at the end of the season.

We need better talent defensively - period.

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Build the D in a true 3-4 manner, stating with a NT and a DT along sise him for depth with Hicks and Jordan, could be a stout line. LB needs to be a really good ILB to play next to Lofton, that shores up the middle for some tough running. Next OLB and with JR. being a 1 trick pony makes 1 side weak, Harrelson plays his roll well, I would let Powell compete with JR and draft a lower pick OLB to let Harrellson groom. On the O a stout(mean and nasty ) C and a RT. I think we keep 1 of the 2 G so one has to be replaced. I would love to make a couple of trades also instead of cutting. More picks.

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I was in the Dome yesterday, at a weird angle from it, and couldn't really see...

I hate to say this, but....first thing I would do with the depth chart if I was Sean Payton, is cue up the coach's film of the end zone fight, from every angle, and watch it repeatedly with my staff, and see who exactly did what, and what went down. Anybody in a Saints uniform who started the fight or made the fight worse, I'd bench 'em and start the process of moving on -- cutting or trading, get rid of them. Anybody in a Saints uniform who played a role in giving up the touchdown on the previous play -- bench 'em too. Anyone who fought in the fight, but who stood up for themselves or a teammate in a reasonable fashion, that guy stays with a warning and a good talking to. Anybody who pulled people apart, who tried to stop it, or separated people, or tried to cool people down, that guy stays.

That whole thing was just garbage.

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I'd send a message and release the overpaid defensive captain

Captains lead by example and all he does is talk trash whilst he's unable to back it up

Before the start of the season he said he would "Own" the falcons new LT, who then quickly drove Junior into the turf on every play

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I have no issue with the fight. Cam should have gotten it worse IMO... I would be looking at that on film though, but I would be looking for the people that stood back and did nothing, because that type of non-aggression is killing this team. I promise you if the GW defenses were involved in the same altercation the bench would have emptied. Now, with the lack of fire and leadership no one cares.

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Me either. Bad enough you are kicking our ass in our own house, but to have to watch you showboat about it also. Good penalty, no one in a Saints uniform threw a punch, take the 15 or offsetting or whatever it was.
The real tragedy is it didn't light the team up after.

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Galette had 12 sacks last season. He hasn't handled success or his captain role as he should. Every season up to this one he's been a good player.

I have to think he'll be better next year.

Cut:
White
Bunkley
Hawthorne
Goodwin
Meachem
Hicks
Cadet

Add:
CB - no true #2 on the roster
ILB - starter to replace hawthorne
OLB - should have been butler, never filled that spot
NT -big body, rotate with Jenkins (hicks?)
DE - is hicks having a bad season or is he suited to NT?
SS - Vaccaro is a specialist. blitz w him. can't tackle worth a crap
WR - one mean SOB who FIGHTS for yardage
G - ready to start in 2yrs

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Get a standout 3-4 NT for starters.
And build the defense around him

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Will be an interesting off season!

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Interesting. I jolly well hope so.

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Main thing is we have to see what we have with Baptiste. Throw him in at #2 corner. Also need to keep developing Stills as a starting WR with Colston on the way out. We should start looking for somebody to replace Jahri Evans as well. He hasn't been any good since 2010.

Hawthorne and Goodwin need to ride the pine. Their backups (Lelito and Humber) are younger, stronger, better players. Let's find out if Cadet can take over the PT role. I've liked what I've seen from him on offense this year (not so much on returns, but his offensive contributions have been solid).

Not much we can do at safety. Vacarro stinks out loud but we don't have the bodies. Although I suppose we could move White to safety.

Hicks needs to be benched. He got fat and happy during the offseason. Jordan also got fat and happy but at least he is trying to turn it around most games. Hicks loafs around like he doesn't care. Jenkins sucks too, and Galette needs to learn a tough lesson. I would play Walker/Edebali/Jordan on the line and let the other DL guys rot on the bench.

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+1. Attitude reflects leadership.

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This is my dream scenario.....I really want to win out the next three games, host the 1st round of playoffs at home and then bring home the Lombardi. Unfortunately, that is a pipe dream.(yeah, yeah, yeah I know "put down the pipe".;)

So, the question for coach is. Do I try to win out and roll with the starters or do I evaluate every player on the roster after getting plenty of game tape and playing time to grow? Either decision isn't going to endear him to the fans if the losing continues.

Give P Rob and White time to shine or go down fighting. At least then we may have a better understanding of their abilities. He could try White at Safety and see how that develops. Find out what our players can and can't do......then make cuts accordingly over the off season. Possibly even this season.

It's a stretch I know but if Payton could identify several players that are definitely not coming back maybe he could cut them now.......raid the PS from some more teams like he did to keep our secondary on life support systems later this season. I'm sure the Saints have their eyes on several more prospects in an emergency contingency plan. The only problem that I might foresee is do we have the money left to sign a few new faces?

I also wonder if Der Kommisar will allow us to raid other teams PS this late in the season if it's not to replace an injured player? There may be a provision prohibiting that from happening. If we can only restock our roster because of IR then who will develop a hang nail?:pokechop:

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Yes, try that. Try everyone who has played or could play ILB. We're terrible there. Why haven't the coaches tried something other than starting Hawthorne and hoping? Or Humber whenever Hawthorne's hurt? Gee wiz, do something different already.

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Gallette already is a situational pass rusher, you're just advocating they formally recognize it. Our LB corps has been poor. Why they don't try their 5th round draft pick Powell is beyond me. Afraid other teams will run at him? They already run all over us.

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Hawthorne must go. Goodwin should go. Meachum will go...someday...although the fire sale price is hard to beat.

Cut Hicks? No way! Won't bother wasting time defending him. Just an obvious keeper for now.

Cut Corey White? Only a young 5th round draft pick. Make a backup nickel instead.

Cut young Cadet? Only if we need the roster spot for a good defensive player.

Wonder if ILB Lofton should go, too.

Hope we following everyone one of your "adds."