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http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...eek17/rankings

I won't say anything.

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Just like some people on here said about the power rankings...just opinions. and testaverde???

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While I do not think AB deserves to be in the top 10 (definitely not statistically this year) I have to say that there were a lot of QBs ranked higher than him that I wouldn\'t trade for. So I guess it is a matter of perspective. Statistics do not always tell the whole story.

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These ratings are based on stats Venturi. There is nothing opinionated about them, they are fact, unlike power rankings, which are wholy subjective. Just thought it was interesting.

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So how does someone with more ints than td\'s and less yards get ranked ahead of him. i.e. Testeverde

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Read the formula for how the ratings are derived again. It is based on ranks of defenses faced and other such stats also, not just TDS, INTs, and yards. It\'s actually a very good formula for determining a qbs value. Once again, I haven\'t said anything about Leon and his ranking on it. I just said I thought it was interesting.

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Not sayin he is an elite qb but 19th, and i dont think he should have been #6 last year(kinda high). it is interesting as Bulger plays in the no defense division and is rated pretty high

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You didn\'t have to mention him. We already knew what you were after with this post.

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Anyway, Testeverde being ranked ahead of AB just shows how off this formula is. It looked at the defenses each QB played against, you say? Well wasn\'t there a game in which Testeverde played horribly against the worst defense in the league? I find it hard to believe anyone could seriously rank him ahead of AB no matter how stupid Ab plays sometimes.

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can i getta Amen!!

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This explains Bulger.

This explains why our qb is ranked pretty low. Roethlisberger won O rookie of the year yet he is only 10 so it seems fairly accurate.

Scotty, Testaverde also was one of the highest rated qbs at the beginning of the year. He didn\'t fade until towards the second half of the season. Also, just cause someone posts something they find interesting, you take from it what you will. You can judge a person\'s intent, doesn\'t mean you are right. In this case, you aren\'t. I found the whole ranking interesting, our qb was very high on it last year.

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All I\'m saying is based on your clearly stated feelings about AB, when I read the title to this thread, I knew AB was going to be ranked low and I was correct.

QB formulas are extremely hard to get right and this one is obviously flawed just as the QB rating system is flawed. What we really need to do is figure out exactly what stats are important and do our own - not that I want to spend the time doing it.

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I wouldn\'t mind doing that. So you find the regular qb ratings as flawed aslo? They do miss a lot of stats. Also, if I was here last year, despite my feelings on Brooks, I would have posted it, when he was high. I also lauded him for the Panthers game in another thread. I just think we need a change, that\'s all. I wasn\'t out to get him here though. If I was, I would have said so, as you can read elsewhere.

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Stat that is important is Td to int ratio, which i hate to say Ab did not do very well. Some will say wins and losses which is hard to do cause I think Trent Green is a good Qb but without a D and a hurt Priest he didn\'t get may wins. Its all by what ur opinion is

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I don\'t mind that Venturi, but last year AB was 3 to 1 TD to INT, but he led the league in fumbles and overall turnovers so that is flawed too.

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Agreed

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To the left they also rated special teams, and we came in second! Al Everst better be one that stays

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You definitely have to have a TD to turnover ratio. I prefer to see things like yards per attempted pass in it which will cover the need of putting in completion percentage and does not give the dinkers a whole lot of credit.

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Our special teams truly picked it up this year. I thought Beerman had lost it. He showed me a little more fire this year.

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U mean like Chadup Pennington?