Rob Ryan tried yelling, crying to motivate Saints' defense

WhoDat!656 · 12-13-2014, 10:49 PM

I've tried crying at them. I've yelled at them, (and) cussed at them. But the bottom line is if you are the coordinator and it's not going well, then you start with you and that's the way it is. That is my fault because right now this defense hasn't played up to par and it is killing us."

Read more here: Rob Ryan tried yelling, crying to motivate Saints' defense | New Orleans Saints | The Sun Herald

SmashMouth · 12-13-2014, 11:37 PM

QBREES9 · 12-13-2014, 11:57 PM

Cut them. Bring in player who want to play. Cut there asses.

Jack Vegas · 12-14-2014, 12:01 AM

Maybe it's not motivation that is the problem. Maybe it's the defensive scheme. It doesn't take a football whiz to see that we went from an aggressive bump-and-run defense last year to a passive zone scheme this year. Why not play in a defense that caters to your players strengths? I don't get it.

SloMotion · 12-14-2014, 06:46 AM

Well Rob, you usually get better results when you're an s.o.b. coming in/being the cool guy later on vs being the cool guy coming in/having to be an s.o.b. later on, just sayin' ... way to own up & accept responsibility though, woulda' left out the part about "crying", :shrug:

jeanpierre · 12-14-2014, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

Cut them. Bring in player who want to play. Cut there asses.

Can't cut 'em and that's the problem - the fear of losing their job isn't there...

Player apathy is one of the yields of Loomis' practice of managing the salary cap season to season...

Need a General Manager to complement, challenge Sean Payton rather than a yes man...

Need a comprehensive personnel plan that allows for flexibility of the roster from season to season and sets up leverage for retaining key players...

Don't think that players don't know it will hurt the team salary cap if they're cut - so why do they need to put forth the effort if financial gain is their prima motive?!?

FinSaint · 12-14-2014, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Don't think that players don't know it will hurt the team salary cap if they're cut - so why do they need to put forth the effort if financial gain is their prima motive?!?

While I recognize that these guys make a lot of money and that the said financial gain is a big motivator - I don't believe for a second that it would outweight their professional pride and the drive to be the best they can be at the game they love to play.

Maybe I'm just naive...

jeanpierre · 12-14-2014, 07:52 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

While I recognize that these guys make a lot of money and that the said financial gain is a big motivator - I don't believe for a second that it would outweight their professional pride and the drive to be the best they can be at the game they love to play.

Maybe I'm just naive...

Fin, time for some tough love...

You're naive...

Sadly, many of these guys come from impoverished conditions and once the Big Mo arrives, you can put a fork in 'em - they're done...

Cruize · 12-14-2014, 07:59 AM

The team whiffed in free agency. The top draft pick was a small WR who's on IR. The 2nd rd pick can't get on the field even though the talent at his position is horrible. The country club training camp site fits the softness of the team. Payton lost the team. THEN, you can start talking about RR's failings.

Beastmode · 12-14-2014, 08:47 AM

The attitude and results on the field look very similar to the Spags era. I thought I notice it manifest in preseason but wrote it off. I was wrong. We need a new attitude. I find it hard to believe that Payton wants him around next year. Basic fundamentals and attitude would have won us a couple more games alone.

12-13-2014, 10:49 PM	#1
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,046	Rob Ryan tried yelling, crying to motivate Saints' defense I've tried crying at them. I've yelled at them, (and) cussed at them. But the bottom line is if you are the coordinator and it's not going well, then you start with you and that's the way it is. That is my fault because right now this defense hasn't played up to par and it is killing us." Read more here: Rob Ryan tried yelling, crying to motivate Saints' defense \| New Orleans Saints \| The Sun Herald

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Rob Ryan tried yelling, crying to motivate Saints' defense hagan714 and Rugby Saint II like this.

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Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Rob Ryan tried yelling, crying to motivate Saints' defense Maybe it's not motivation that is the problem. Maybe it's the defensive scheme. It doesn't take a football whiz to see that we went from an aggressive bump-and-run defense last year to a passive zone scheme this year. Why not play in a defense that caters to your players strengths? I don't get it. hagan714, leilung, Cruize and 3 others like this.
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SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Rob Ryan tried yelling, crying to motivate Saints' defense Well Rob, you usually get better results when you're an s.o.b. coming in/being the cool guy later on vs being the cool guy coming in/having to be an s.o.b. later on, just sayin' ... way to own up & accept responsibility though, woulda' left out the part about "crying", :shrug: iceshack149 and hagan714 like this.

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FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Rob Ryan tried yelling, crying to motivate Saints' defense Originally Posted by jeanpierre Don't think that players don't know it will hurt the team salary cap if they're cut - so why do they need to put forth the effort if financial gain is their prima motive?!? While I recognize that these guys make a lot of money and that the said financial gain is a big motivator - I don't believe for a second that it would outweight their professional pride and the drive to be the best they can be at the game they love to play. Maybe I'm just naive... skymike and captainshawn like this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Rob Ryan tried yelling, crying to motivate Saints' defense Originally Posted by FinSaint While I recognize that these guys make a lot of money and that the said financial gain is a big motivator - I don't believe for a second that it would outweight their professional pride and the drive to be the best they can be at the game they love to play. Maybe I'm just naive... Fin, time for some tough love... You're naive... Sadly, many of these guys come from impoverished conditions and once the Big Mo arrives, you can put a fork in 'em - they're done... skymike likes this.

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Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Rob Ryan tried yelling, crying to motivate Saints' defense The team whiffed in free agency. The top draft pick was a small WR who's on IR. The 2nd rd pick can't get on the field even though the talent at his position is horrible. The country club training camp site fits the softness of the team. Payton lost the team. THEN, you can start talking about RR's failings. Rsanders24, darksoul35 and brees84 like this.
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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Rob Ryan tried yelling, crying to motivate Saints' defense The attitude and results on the field look very similar to the Spags era. I thought I notice it manifest in preseason but wrote it off. I was wrong. We need a new attitude. I find it hard to believe that Payton wants him around next year. Basic fundamentals and attitude would have won us a couple more games alone. hagan714 and Rugby Saint II like this.
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