Corey White the free safety?
 

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I think the CB experiment may be over. He has the skillset to be a solid safety.

Perhaps the draft gurus were right all along.

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Good to know he's played some in college, albeit as a freshman.

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We'll be going into the 2015 offseason with Jairus Byrd, Pierre Warren, Rafael Bush and Corey White at free safety... Quite a logjam.

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True, but I think White and Bush (and Sunseri) have the skills to play both.

Byrd and Warren are really the only ones who are strictly FS type.

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Malcolm Jenkins couldn't hack it either as a corner back. You see how well that transition went......crap.:roll:

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I'm afraid that this project will be painful to watch.

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Or very enjoyable.

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This could have something to do with Sanford being injured as well...

I don't think there is room for Vaccaro on this team now. Starting line-up for 2015 Byrd and Bush, the third safety should be Warren with Bush moving to the slot.

Trade him while we can...

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I thought the draft scouts had him projected at strong safety/cb not free safety. But atleast he wont have to worry about turning his head looking for the ball.

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I trust the coaches over anyone here who is screaming "gonna be painful to watch"...

They have seen him in practice at safety and if they feel he can do it, then let him do it.

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Yes, I agree. White at corner was a epic failure.

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White played very well at a quasi-safety spot in preseason. He was still listed as a CB but the way he was lined up was more like the way we used Jenkins at times last year. I think this is a good idea. He always plays better with the ball in front of him anyway.

I know people are down on him right now but I still like him. Maybe not as a #2 corner anymore, but he plays hard, hits hard and has a nose for the ball. Those are really good qualities to have in a nickel/dime DB.

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Can't be worse than his play at CB. I think this could work out for him

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Good old Mike Mayock. :)

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i think what everyone is missing is that the reason this is a story is that it probably foreshadows the departure of KV.

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No it doesn't

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FS?

Does mean warren will not see as much playing time at FS?

then that means we will be force feed dixon again at CB?

I like Corey and the middle of the field as a safety or a nickle and dime guy is perfect for him.

Not sure how much i like the move to FS when SS seems like a better fit. best tackler in the secondary.

Warren and White seems like a better mix and let Kenny play the 3rd safety role. line kenny up all over the place.

but what do i know Rob is a defensive master at player selection, motivation and schemes.

So in Rob I blindly trust

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Id have liked to have seen if we could have taken Mark Barron when he went to the Rams. Having him at SS,Byrd at FS and Kenny as the roamer would have worked well imo. He isn't starting there now and maybe they look to get rid for the right offer. Its only the need for more depth on both lines that would have me thinking twice

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oh please no. one thing to make a pick that you need to think on how to use and it is another to kick a 1st rounder out on the curb after 2 years. then again we have seen how well some of our past players over the last two years are doing else where in the NFL. so it is obvious Rob is making all the right calls

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It's probably due to the fact that Pierre Warren is the only free safety on our roster at the moment and the kid might need a break every now and then or god forbid if he gets injured. Since it's an idea we've been kicking around for a while now and we have no depth at the position now was the time to make the switch.

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No.

However, I could see White pushing Rafael Bush out of the rotation, especially since Bush only has one more year on his deal and White will come a lot cheaper. And they are very similar players.

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Bingo. Rafael Bush will be trade bait or flat out cut. Corey White offers versatility as a back-up free safety who can play CB if needed.

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But Bush >> Vaccaro...

Trade Vaccaro while there is still a market. Bush is a proven asset at safety and played well for us as the SS... why would you can that for a guy that's never started as a safety in the NFL and couldn't cut it as the #2 CB...

Don't get the hype.

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I love the way Vaccaro is being thrown to the wolves for being poor this year after a exceptional first year where as Bush seems to be getting put on a pedestal even though he started 7 games this year.

This is Bush that so far in 49 games for the Saints with 13 starts has 1 interception,1 forced fumble and 0 sacks.


He is a good player but nothing that cant be replaced

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I imagine Bush and White are both possibly goners after this season... I was looking at it as a one or the other scenario when I said that. Bush hasn't shown that he's any better than Vaccaro.

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PFF ranking last year had Bush rated in the top 6. Considering Vaccaro just got beat out by two guys that weren't even on the roster to start the year I am going to have to say Vaccaro is a bust AT THE SAFETY POSITION until proven otherwise. We keep trying to fit square players into round holes...

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Damn... A player can't even have a sophomore slump nowadays.

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PFF ranking are pointless
If any safety can be top 6 without a sack, interception or forced fumble tells he wasnt a top 6 S

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Why do we continue to force this?

Ryan was praised last year because unlike Spags, he started using his players according to their strengths. Square peg, meet square hole.

And now it appears we're right back to the same old thing.

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lol

Shows how much you know about the safety spot... Or football in general, stats aren't everything.

You could not be bias and look at what is regarded as the best ranking system in the NFL, your just too prideful to admit your wrong.

Vaccaro has some talent but he is playing the wrong position this year.

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Yup...

Aside from the Bears game it seemed like we were trying to force it, but that's why I am actually excited now. Rob might have figured it out even this late in the season we still have a shot.

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Rafael Bush played a part time role when he was ranked so highly by PFF... What was his average grade as a full-time starter for that stretch this season?

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I know stats are not everthing neither is PFF and I agree that Vaccaro is neither a SS or FS but as the third safety in the formation last year he was very good. Rafael Bush isnt the 6th best S in the league and wont be. He is a good player but of he was that good we wouldn't habe been able to keep him. I think we just have to disagre. My major issue has been the calling Vaccaro a bust on the thread. He is a good, potentially very good safety who is coming back ftom a nasty injury and playing in a new position in a struggling team. The big mistake was trying to force a change in a team that didn't have the personal needed

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I don't disagree that he has talent, but he is best at the pest role not at safety. It's not just one year either, he played the pest role in college as well, Vaccaro has never been a true safety and we should stop trying to make him one before we ruin another player.

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I think we already have.