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Now that the season is over who do you NOT want back?

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I'm a Saints fan, not a Brees fan, or Jimmy Graham,Marques Colston, Cameron Jordan along with any other player that is on this team. They will come and go. They are just pieces to an ugly team that we have, ...

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Old 12-22-2014, 05:17 AM   #1
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Re: Now that the season is over who do you NOT want back?

I'm a Saints fan, not a Brees fan, or Jimmy Graham,Marques Colston, Cameron Jordan along with any other player that is on this team. They will come and go. They are just pieces to an ugly team that we have, so I'm just using them for an example. I hope SP, cuts through this staff like a bad horror movie.
If we made the cuts I want, we wouldn't have a team.
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Old 12-22-2014, 05:45 AM   #2
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Incognito was also on my mind, but I think that he would just maximize the crap we have and not be a leader type a guy.
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Old 12-22-2014, 06:28 AM   #3
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After all the high draft picks and free agent signings, the defense should be dominating. Too many misses, so first heads to roll needs to be the part of the scouting department that is in charge of the defense. As bad as the defense was this year and your second round CB doesn't crack the field and a 4th round LB doesn't make the team, major issue on the scouts and the people drafting the players.

Shayne Graham - I normally have no issues with a guy who is pretty much automatic from 40 yards in, but seriously, not letting a guy attempt a 52 yard field goal in the dome is alarming. Needs to be replaced.

Colston - Best all time WR for the Saints, lost the speed a few years ago, and now drops passes. Time to go.

Lorig - The best FB on the Saints roster is on IR, time to move on.

Goodwin - Aging veteran, obvious by even casual observers that he has declined, time to retire.

Jimmy Graham - Disappears in big games, any trade partners to an AFC team?

Corey White - probably the worst of a weak group, needs to go.

Byrd - Was not a difference maker when in the line up, any way to get out of that big contract?
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Old 12-22-2014, 06:34 AM   #4
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Re: Now that the season is over who do you NOT want back?

Canīt trade Graham --> Dead Money
Can`t trade Galette --> Dead Money
Can`t trade Byrd --> Dead Money

as simply as it is. No way out on those players!
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Old 12-22-2014, 06:41 AM   #5
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As for the scouting department they are horrible. Give me one 1st round pick since 2007 that was any good.

I only give you a few examples:

Robert Meachem --> one trick pony, horrible hands
Sedrick Ellis --> fat, lazy, horrible bust
Malcolm Jenkins --> from the way he is playing for the Eagles we completely missused him
Patrick Robinson --> maybe coming back, but looks overmatched and lost on the field
Cameron Jordan --> flashes of brilliance, will ask for a huge payday, too expensive and inconsistant to keep
Mark Ingram, Jr. --> good RB, wrong system, should have been traded a long time ago. was a panick pick after all the RB went down before the Seattle playoff game
Kenny Vaccaro --> maybe coming back strong, needs some serious coaching, horrible tackling technique
Brandin Cooks --> sexy pick, will have some big plays.. but paid way too much, could have gotten Benjamin as well

so DB that didnīt work, WR that are only okay, a running back to the wrong system and one solid DL. Where is the Dline help, Passrushers, nasty Oline players?

Too much tinkering, too little bad ass football.
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Old 12-22-2014, 09:00 AM   #6
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When is this Micheal Kwon kid from LSU ready? Itīs insane what kind of talent LSU "produced" in this draft class: Beckham, Landry, Hill, Blue

Maybe there LT is eligibe, then we could move Armstead to RT and use Strief as situational substitute. Then pick up a C later in the draft and try to move either Evans or Grubbs contract.
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Old 12-22-2014, 09:01 AM   #7
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Re: Now that the season is over who do you NOT want back?

Why pay Byrd all that money when we could've signed our own for cheaper and more production (Malcolm Jenkins)? I know we had some crybabies on here that dislike the idea but he was a baller here, just didn't have the interceptions.
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Baller? He did miss a ton of tackles so I understand why we didn`t resign him. What I didn`t understand was the Byrd signing, we should have gotten after OL help and Passrush / LB
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I think some of tge criticism of Byrd has been unfair. He was lining up deep which seems to be what was asked of him and the front 7 got no pressure either. Add that to a new scheme and playing alongside a struggling SS in Vaccaro both og whom were coming of injuries I think being too critical is wrong. Whether he was the right signing is another matter. I like him and feel with a front 7 creating pressure he will show his worth.
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I think some of tge criticism of Byrd has been unfair. He was lining up deep which seems to be what was asked of him and the front 7 got no pressure either. Add that to a new scheme and playing alongside a struggling SS in Vaccaro both og whom were coming of injuries I think being too critical is wrong. Whether he was the right signing is another matter. I like him and feel with a front 7 creating pressure he will show his worth.
Agreed. It's hard for me to believe a guy who was a ball hawk for years up in Buffalo is all of a sudden garbage down in N O. Scheme? Lack of play makers around him? I don't necessarily like what we paid for him however let's see how he does for a full season in 2015 before we throw stones at the guy.
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