Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 633781)

We havent had a fundamentally sound defense in a while. Ever notice any other teams trying to steal coaches from our defense since Dennis Allen? Rob stays, every one else can go. If we send Ryan packing, I want a DC who will turn this joke of a defense into a solid group of players. I have no doubt we have enough talent to consistently produce a top 10 defense.

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 633783)

I do too my friend. We have numerous players that have proven they can play at an above average level. So many regressed this season its mind boggling.

A couple of upgrades here and there and I think top 10 is easily attainable.

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 633783)

I do too my friend. We have numerous players that have proven they can play at an above average level. So many regressed this season its mind boggling.

A couple of upgrades here and there and I think top 10 is easily attainable.

Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 633736)

This is the thing. This thread discussion is SO CLOSE to it, but everybody's still kinda tiptoeing around and not quite there yet. Yes, it is a coordinator issue. But it's more than just that.

The thing is, the Goodell bounty stuff is STILL in Payton's head. TO THIS DAY. His mind has been completely messed up, ever since it happened to him. Like when you put a prisoner in a dark box for a month or something, he's not the same man when he comes out. Payton is NOT going to easily give up control of the defensive side of the locker room, to some DC's personal assistants that Payton can't control. Those same old same old coordinators are in there for a reason, because they are Yes Men to Payton, and because he got railroaded, and the Bountygate stuff is STILL all up inside Payton's head TO THIS DAY. On one level, he is completely and totally paranoid. Control freak, yes. Perfectionist, yes. He always was one, but the aftershocks of the Bounty thing has made it spin off in weird ways.

I think maybe one or two coordinators may go, emphasis on MAY go, out the door. But a wholesale house cleaning, top to bottom? I don't see it happening, unless Payton is somehow forced to.

Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 633736)

This is the thing. This thread discussion is SO CLOSE to it, but everybody's still kinda tiptoeing around and not quite there yet. Yes, it is a coordinator issue. But it's more than just that.

The thing is, the Goodell bounty stuff is STILL in Payton's head. TO THIS DAY. His mind has been completely messed up, ever since it happened to him. Like when you put a prisoner in a dark box for a month or something, he's not the same man when he comes out. Payton is NOT going to easily give up control of the defensive side of the locker room, to some DC's personal assistants that Payton can't control. Those same old same old coordinators are in there for a reason, because they are Yes Men to Payton, and because he got railroaded, and the Bountygate stuff is STILL all up inside Payton's head TO THIS DAY. On one level, he is completely and totally paranoid. Control freak, yes. Perfectionist, yes. He always was one, but the aftershocks of the Bounty thing has made it spin off in weird ways.

I think maybe one or two coordinators may go, emphasis on MAY go, out the door. But a wholesale house cleaning, top to bottom? I don't see it happening, unless Payton is somehow forced to.

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 633694)

Change is imminent and necessary. I would be OK if Sean got rid of all of those assistant/defensive position coaches and kept the Big Lebowski.

Add a few pieces to the puzzle via FA & draft on D and we are back.

Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 633752)

I wanted big rob sent packing myself several times this year. but you wonder he had no staff to give support. is it that payton calls the shots and wants to protect against the run than have a sack frensey and a 200 yard a game rusher that kills you. we were so lazy some games than some we had sack mania style Jorden vs galette . face it we need another big time rusher that has multible moves, trade off one if we have to. and lets please start looking for another young, colston with more moves' no more short guys.

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 633813)

I honestly think we just need to admit we cheated for a sb, whether its true or not. Kiss Goodell's a@@, apologize for what happened, take responsibility for it and be proud to be cheaters. If you want to win you have to suck it up. I think now its time to move past it by admitting that they made a mistake, make their desire to win back the respect of the public, win back the people that supported them and jumped on their bandwagon(you need bandwagons for success all the sb winner have them). I think by doing this we could see a major difference.

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 633813)

I honestly think we just need to admit we cheated for a sb, whether its true or not. Kiss Goodell's a@@, apologize for what happened, take responsibility for it and be proud to be cheaters. If you want to win you have to suck it up. I think now its time to move past it by admitting that they made a mistake, make their desire to win back the respect of the public, win back the people that supported them and jumped on their bandwagon(you need bandwagons for success all the sb winner have them). I think by doing this we could see a major difference.

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx (Post 633916)

so let the blame game begin. who needs to go?, who needs to be fired?, well to be honest with you all, everyone needs to go. for those who say fire r ryan are the same ones that give sp and drew brees a pass by making excuses for their play on the field. yeah i said it, a pass! its always the ol, our the receivers. i never see posts on here talking about the lack luster, predictable, old, pathetic offensive play calling we've been experiencing for the past two years. last year we gave sp a pass. we all were saying its his first year back from suspension. he and drew wasnt on the same page. blah blah blah. now what's the excuse? oh i know the defense. its r ryan fault that drew brees was out there holding the ball like his trying to hold his wife. its r ryan fault rcvs isnt getting open, its r ryan fault the offense couldnt produce drives or get crucial first downs, or couldnt score in the redzone, or get anywhere near the redzone, its r ryan fault when drew brees throws 2 picks a game. it's his fault we lost our opportunity to be playing in the playoffs. our offense at times as i said before time after time again our offense looks stagnant. at times our offense couldnt produce drives when we needed them. i can think of several games i felt we lost on offense. now with all that being said. our defense has failed us miserably. i do feel we should keep r ryan. give this group of guys opportunity to learn his system. i remember when we got rid of m jenkins and r harper, j greer etc etc. a lot of you all thought those moves were necessary. i didnt because i knew we were losing a lot of veterans on the field. a lot guys that knew our system, our lockerroom culture. that could rally guys. we had none of that this year. you can tell on the sideline with players body language. no spark, no sense of urgency. nothing. so if anyone should go first i feel its our head coach because he failed us just as well as everyone else.

Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 633935)

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Originally Posted by teddybarexxx (Post 633946)

.....and at what point (even without the punctuation) you couldnt follow wtf i was saying? see you're the same ppl i was talking about in the first part of my paragraph. you're the ones that's always taking up (or giving a pass) to sp and drew brees. ask me how i know. you didnt make one sensible comment about what i said vs. finding a puntuation error(s). i'm sure if i were to go to some of the fb's and instagram accounts, i'm sure you have several errors as well. well i'm sure in the hell glad i can spell! lol

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx (Post 633916)

i remember when we got rid of m jenkins and r harper, j greer etc etc. a lot of you all thought those moves were necessary. i didnt because i knew we were losing a lot of veterans on the field. a lot guys that knew our system, our lockerroom culture. that could rally guys.