2015 NFL Free Agency

jeanpierre · 12-24-2014, 07:11 AM

Agent's Take: The five teams with the worst salary cap situations - CBSSports.com

Guess who tops the list?!?

And don't expect me to be among the fans who suck the tailpipe or drink the Kool-Aid® singing 'In Loomis We Trust'...

This has been terrible, terrible cap management...

Sarik · 12-24-2014, 07:31 AM

Have to agree. Sure Loomis is a wizard in his own way, but he cant keep handing out these ridiculous contracts. JR most notable.

Although to his credit everyone we give a big payday, declines signicantly after (Colston, evans, graham, byrd, gallete & drew)
Drew's poor play can tie to bad O line play though.

halloween 65 · 12-24-2014, 08:20 AM

About all I would look for in FA is a #2CB to compliment Lewis and Byrd to set the backfield and some O-line and DL depth. I really think we get those front lines fixed thru the draft along with a ILB we're good to go.

blackangold · 12-24-2014, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by Sarik

Have to agree. Sure Loomis is a wizard in his own way, but he cant keep handing out these ridiculous contracts. JR most notable.

Although to his credit everyone we give a big payday, declines signicantly after (Colston, evans, graham, byrd, gallete & drew)
Drew's poor play can tie to bad O line play though.

Wrong. Your basing all this off of 1 year. Colston and Evans both played great for the majority of their contracts and byrd lead the team in tackles and turnovers before getting hurt. Gallete's deal is being reduced by 10 mil next year and he does lead the league in qb pressures.

I defend some of tgese guys because they have paid off in the past but now we may need to cut them.

As far as the cap goes...lol.. people thought we were dead in the water last year and we signed the biggest FA out there.

lee909 · 12-24-2014, 09:45 AM

A bad year all round but talk of cutting Graham,Galette,Byrd and Cam is nonsense.

Sarik · 12-24-2014, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

A bad year all round but talk of cutting Graham,Galette,Byrd and Cam is nonsense.

Yep, just plain retarded.

Jack Vegas · 12-24-2014, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Agent's Take: The five teams with the worst salary cap situations - CBSSports.com

Guess who tops the list?!?

And don't expect me to be among the fans who suck the tailpipe or drink the Kool-Aid® singing 'In Loomis We Trust'...

This has been terrible, terrible cap management...

And if we were $5 million under the cap or something people would be whining about how we aren't spending enough money and we have a competitive window while Brees is still here, blah blah.

Plus, if you had actually read the article you just linked, it won't be hard at all to get under the cap and still manage to sign a few free agents at minimal loss to the roster.

Too much overreactions on this forum right now. If we have the same kind of listless blah season and miss the playoffs again next year, then maybe it's time to get upset. It's very possible that this just wasn't our year and we need to suck it up and deal.

Sarik · 12-24-2014, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Wrong. Your basing all this off of 1 year. Colston and Evans both played great for the majority of their contracts and byrd lead the team in tackles and turnovers before getting hurt. Gallete's deal is being reduced by 10 mil next year and he does lead the league in qb pressures.

I defend some of tgese guys because they have paid off in the past but now we may need to cut them.

As far as the cap goes...lol.. people thought we were dead in the water last year and we signed the biggest FA out there.

?? No. 1 yr is all we have to go on for graham, Byrd & gallette. Does Graham deserve to be paid higher than Gronk? No. Did we have the money to spend on Byrd? No, but we felt like we were a piece away from being that superbowl team. Did JR earn that ridiculous contract? No way.

With that being said, jimmy earned his contract, but we knew it would stretch us financially, & then we went & signed byrd to a hefty contract no one thought we could, which we really cant, but i LOVED the signing. JR's was just bad, but thats just my opinion.

Wasnt saying evans or colston were bad. & i hope that it wasnt taken as if i thought their contracts were bad, i only meant to Loomis' credit, like i stated, is that the play of those players fell off signicantly one time or another & it can be perceived to look bad on him. Evans & colston have in fact been on the decline these past couple of years though.

Sarik · 12-24-2014, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Wrong. Your basing all this off of 1 year. Colston and Evans both played great for the majority of their contracts and byrd lead the team in tackles and turnovers before getting hurt. Gallete's deal is being reduced by 10 mil next year and he does lead the league in qb pressures.

I defend some of tgese guys because they have paid off in the past but now we may need to cut them.

As far as the cap goes...lol.. people thought we were dead in the water last year and we signed the biggest FA out there.

Lol yea i get what you mean about FA last year, but we really were. Thats why jeanpierre posted this...EVERYONE knew we'd be in trouble after this year, it was essentially superbowl or bust in alot of mindsets. Cant keep backloading or pushing it off til the next year. Its gonna eventually come back to bite us & thats what we "may" see happen if we dont have a quick turnaround & make the right moves this offseason. & as i stated in other posts, im hoping emotion/loyalty doesnt outweigh the need to make certain changes with longtime faces(evans, colston) or players that arent cutting it(Hawthorne, Bunkley, etc)

If we can restructure colston im good with that, but im in the bunch that believe its time to move on from Jahri. Wish him all the best though, thanks JE!
Erik Lorig looks to be very expendable with Austin Johnson here. Lorig's run blocking seemed no better than average & Johnson well outperformed him in pass catching as well. Doesnt save us much tho, around 300k.

Jack Vegas · 12-24-2014, 10:51 AM

Restructuring Brees and Galette's contracts and cutting Evans puts us 7 million under the cap. Just like that. I don't get why everybody's got their panties all in a wad about the salary cap AGAIN. We should all know better by now.

12-24-2014, 07:11 AM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	2015 NFL Free Agency Agent's Take: The five teams with the worst salary cap situations - CBSSports.com Guess who tops the list?!? And don't expect me to be among the fans who suck the tailpipe or drink the Kool-Aid® singing 'In Loomis We Trust'... This has been terrible, terrible cap management... Sarik and VegasSaint9 like this.

12-24-2014, 08:20 AM	#3
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: 2015 NFL Free Agency About all I would look for in FA is a #2CB to compliment Lewis and Byrd to set the backfield and some O-line and DL depth. I really think we get those front lines fixed thru the draft along with a ILB we're good to go. MarchingOn likes this.

12-24-2014, 09:27 AM	#4
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: 2015 NFL Free Agency Originally Posted by Sarik Have to agree. Sure Loomis is a wizard in his own way, but he cant keep handing out these ridiculous contracts. JR most notable. Although to his credit everyone we give a big payday, declines signicantly after (Colston, evans, graham, byrd, gallete & drew) Drew's poor play can tie to bad O line play though. Wrong. Your basing all this off of 1 year. Colston and Evans both played great for the majority of their contracts and byrd lead the team in tackles and turnovers before getting hurt. Gallete's deal is being reduced by 10 mil next year and he does lead the league in qb pressures. I defend some of tgese guys because they have paid off in the past but now we may need to cut them. As far as the cap goes...lol.. people thought we were dead in the water last year and we signed the biggest FA out there.

12-24-2014, 09:45 AM	#5
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,809 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2015 NFL Free Agency A bad year all round but talk of cutting Graham,Galette,Byrd and Cam is nonsense. Danno, WhoDat!656, MarchingOn and 1 others like this.

12-24-2014, 10:28 AM	#6
Sarik 100th Post Join Date: May 2012 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 292	Re: 2015 NFL Free Agency Originally Posted by lee909 A bad year all round but talk of cutting Graham,Galette,Byrd and Cam is nonsense. Yep, just plain retarded.

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12-24-2014, 07:31 AM	#2
Sarik 100th Post Join Date: May 2012 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 292	Re: 2015 NFL Free Agency Have to agree. Sure Loomis is a wizard in his own way, but he cant keep handing out these ridiculous contracts. JR most notable. Although to his credit everyone we give a big payday, declines signicantly after (Colston, evans, graham, byrd, gallete & drew) Drew's poor play can tie to bad O line play though.

12-24-2014, 10:28 AM	#7
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: 2015 NFL Free Agency Originally Posted by jeanpierre Agent's Take: The five teams with the worst salary cap situations - CBSSports.com Guess who tops the list?!? And don't expect me to be among the fans who suck the tailpipe or drink the Kool-Aid® singing 'In Loomis We Trust'... This has been terrible, terrible cap management... And if we were $5 million under the cap or something people would be whining about how we aren't spending enough money and we have a competitive window while Brees is still here, blah blah. Plus, if you had actually read the article you just linked, it won't be hard at all to get under the cap and still manage to sign a few free agents at minimal loss to the roster. Too much overreactions on this forum right now. If we have the same kind of listless blah season and miss the playoffs again next year, then maybe it's time to get upset. It's very possible that this just wasn't our year and we need to suck it up and deal.
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12-24-2014, 10:42 AM	#8
Sarik 100th Post Join Date: May 2012 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 292	Re: 2015 NFL Free Agency Originally Posted by blackangold Wrong. Your basing all this off of 1 year. Colston and Evans both played great for the majority of their contracts and byrd lead the team in tackles and turnovers before getting hurt. Gallete's deal is being reduced by 10 mil next year and he does lead the league in qb pressures. I defend some of tgese guys because they have paid off in the past but now we may need to cut them. As far as the cap goes...lol.. people thought we were dead in the water last year and we signed the biggest FA out there. ?? No. 1 yr is all we have to go on for graham, Byrd & gallette. Does Graham deserve to be paid higher than Gronk? No. Did we have the money to spend on Byrd? No, but we felt like we were a piece away from being that superbowl team. Did JR earn that ridiculous contract? No way. With that being said, jimmy earned his contract, but we knew it would stretch us financially, & then we went & signed byrd to a hefty contract no one thought we could, which we really cant, but i LOVED the signing. JR's was just bad, but thats just my opinion. Wasnt saying evans or colston were bad. & i hope that it wasnt taken as if i thought their contracts were bad, i only meant to Loomis' credit, like i stated, is that the play of those players fell off signicantly one time or another & it can be perceived to look bad on him. Evans & colston have in fact been on the decline these past couple of years though.

12-24-2014, 10:51 AM	#9
Sarik 100th Post Join Date: May 2012 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 292	Re: 2015 NFL Free Agency Originally Posted by blackangold Wrong. Your basing all this off of 1 year. Colston and Evans both played great for the majority of their contracts and byrd lead the team in tackles and turnovers before getting hurt. Gallete's deal is being reduced by 10 mil next year and he does lead the league in qb pressures. I defend some of tgese guys because they have paid off in the past but now we may need to cut them. As far as the cap goes...lol.. people thought we were dead in the water last year and we signed the biggest FA out there. Lol yea i get what you mean about FA last year, but we really were. Thats why jeanpierre posted this...EVERYONE knew we'd be in trouble after this year, it was essentially superbowl or bust in alot of mindsets. Cant keep backloading or pushing it off til the next year. Its gonna eventually come back to bite us & thats what we "may" see happen if we dont have a quick turnaround & make the right moves this offseason. & as i stated in other posts, im hoping emotion/loyalty doesnt outweigh the need to make certain changes with longtime faces(evans, colston) or players that arent cutting it(Hawthorne, Bunkley, etc) If we can restructure colston im good with that, but im in the bunch that believe its time to move on from Jahri. Wish him all the best though, thanks JE! Erik Lorig looks to be very expendable with Austin Johnson here. Lorig's run blocking seemed no better than average & Johnson well outperformed him in pass catching as well. Doesnt save us much tho, around 300k.

12-24-2014, 10:51 AM	#10
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: 2015 NFL Free Agency Restructuring Brees and Galette's contracts and cutting Evans puts us 7 million under the cap. Just like that. I don't get why everybody's got their panties all in a wad about the salary cap AGAIN. We should all know better by now.
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