The few excuses I can make for Sean Payton

UK_WhoDat · 12-29-2014, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by NOLA54

No excuses should be our motto for next year.

Should be. But it ain't.

There is no excuse. Only reasons. And it seems we are scared to look the reasons straight in the face.

Which is disappointing. Because until we can, we will not deal with the reasons for underperformance.

hagan714 · 12-29-2014, 07:43 AM

what we saw was the teams complete roster. not to pretty as a whole. there is a few bright spots but not enough to cover up poor personnel moves.

neugey · 12-29-2014, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton

I want to give Sean at least one more season before I can decide if I want him to stay or go. If he approaches next offseason and season like he did this year,and/or he says he's gonna make big changes,but does very little change,then that shows me that he is stubborn and refuses to adapt and does not have the best intentions for this team. If that's the case,then I'll go down there and pack his bags myself. This is not the first time we've gone 7-9 with him and he's fixed things in the past. Not saying it'll happen this time....hell,it might get a lot worse,but I'm having faith he'll pull through until he proves me wrong.

If we bring Payton back (which is most likely), I just hope the organization makes it known the seat is getting a little hot and that the team needs to play smarter and harder under his watch. If we give Payton the "don't worry, you're good, just do your thing" approach, I fear we'll see more of the same from last season, except worse.

Audiotom · 12-29-2014, 09:24 AM

when the fan base, let alone the opposing team knows exactly what play you have dialed up - there is a problem

when you trade away veteran players on a good d and pay big money for the answer - there is a problem

when you give huge contracts to people who then under perform - there is a problem

when simple fundamentals like wrapping up on a tackle are not corrected week after week - there is a problem

when you are more concerned with social media than solid football - there is a problem

Mardigras9 · 12-29-2014, 10:03 AM

Hey we beat the AFC north and NFC north division champs, and split with the NFC south division champs (if you want to throw that in) this year.

Payton will right the ship for next year, this season is a hard one for him to swallow.

Rugby Saint II · 12-29-2014, 02:55 PM

This team comes back well from an off season after a poor showing the year before. We are a consistent winner that back slides occasionally. We are a perennial power house and will get things back on track again after a little tinkering to the O-line and some good moves in free agency. We will be back to a 13-3 record or better again. Self scrutiny is humbling and sometimes necessary.

vpheughan · 12-30-2014, 08:28 AM

Truth is it's a "What have you done for me lately" occupation. Produce or go!

UK_WhoDat · 12-30-2014, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

If we bring Payton back (which is most likely), I just hope the organization makes it known the seat is getting a little hot and that the team needs to play smarter and harder under his watch. ....

Tell him we will pay for results. If he doesn't like that, that tells all.

Originally Posted by Mardigras9

.....Payton will right the ship for next year, this season is a hard one for him to swallow.

I hope it is a hard to swallow. There are many Saints fans reeling also.

Originally Posted by Mardigras9

Hey we beat the AFC north and NFC north division champs, and split with the NFC south division champs (if you want to throw that in) this year.

and we lost to?

It is the half full / half empty approach. Which is correct?
Tune next season, same time, same channel.

pinch · 12-30-2014, 04:03 PM

I think what we might have seen over the last couple of seasons is the "Tiger Woods" effect. Remember back when Tiger was setting the world on fire? That was also the time when he was banging every woman within eye sight.

That was the Tiger that was so relaxed he could hit a 50 foot putt with his eyes closed. As long as the poon-tang was free-flowing, Tiger was untouchable. Unfortunately, as soon as the train of skanks came to an end, so did Tiger's game. He has never been the same.

Now I'm not saying that Peyton was cheating on his wife, but the timeframe in which he was reported to be "feasting on the bearded oyster" was also the time we were winning Division Championships and Superbowl Titles. He's now back in a steady, monogamous relationship and our club is in shambles.

Just a theory.

ChrisXVI · 12-30-2014, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by pinch

I think what we might have seen over the last couple of seasons is the "Tiger Woods" effect. Remember back when Tiger was setting the world on fire? That was also the time when he was banging every woman within eye sight.

That was the Tiger that was so relaxed he could hit a 50 foot putt with his eyes closed. As long as the poon-tang was free-flowing, Tiger was untouchable. Unfortunately, as soon as the train of skanks came to an end, so did Tiger's game. He has never been the same.

Now I'm not saying that Peyton was cheating on his wife, but the timeframe in which he was reported to be "feasting on the bearded oyster" was also the time we were winning Division Championships and Superbowl Titles. He's now back in a steady, monogamous relationship and our club is in shambles.

Just a theory.

Come on man... That's just crazy and disrespectful.

12-29-2014, 07:09 AM	#11
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,947	Re: The few excuses I can make for Sean Payton Originally Posted by NOLA54 No excuses should be our motto for next year. Should be. But it ain't. There is no excuse. Only reasons. And it seems we are scared to look the reasons straight in the face. Which is disappointing. Because until we can, we will not deal with the reasons for underperformance.

12-29-2014, 07:43 AM	#12
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: The few excuses I can make for Sean Payton what we saw was the teams complete roster. not to pretty as a whole. there is a few bright spots but not enough to cover up poor personnel moves.

12-29-2014, 08:19 AM	#13
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Re: The few excuses I can make for Sean Payton Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton I want to give Sean at least one more season before I can decide if I want him to stay or go. If he approaches next offseason and season like he did this year,and/or he says he's gonna make big changes,but does very little change,then that shows me that he is stubborn and refuses to adapt and does not have the best intentions for this team. If that's the case,then I'll go down there and pack his bags myself. This is not the first time we've gone 7-9 with him and he's fixed things in the past. Not saying it'll happen this time....hell,it might get a lot worse,but I'm having faith he'll pull through until he proves me wrong. If we bring Payton back (which is most likely), I just hope the organization makes it known the seat is getting a little hot and that the team needs to play smarter and harder under his watch. If we give Payton the "don't worry, you're good, just do your thing" approach, I fear we'll see more of the same from last season, except worse.

12-29-2014, 09:24 AM	#14
Audiotom 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,094 Blog Entries: 1	Re: The few excuses I can make for Sean Payton when the fan base, let alone the opposing team knows exactly what play you have dialed up - there is a problem when you trade away veteran players on a good d and pay big money for the answer - there is a problem when you give huge contracts to people who then under perform - there is a problem when simple fundamentals like wrapping up on a tackle are not corrected week after week - there is a problem when you are more concerned with social media than solid football - there is a problem UK_WhoDat and Rugby Saint II like this.

12-29-2014, 10:03 AM	#15
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: The few excuses I can make for Sean Payton Hey we beat the AFC north and NFC north division champs, and split with the NFC south division champs (if you want to throw that in) this year. Payton will right the ship for next year, this season is a hard one for him to swallow.

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12-30-2014, 12:27 PM	#18
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,947	Re: The few excuses I can make for Sean Payton Originally Posted by neugey If we bring Payton back (which is most likely), I just hope the organization makes it known the seat is getting a little hot and that the team needs to play smarter and harder under his watch. .... Tell him we will pay for results. If he doesn't like that, that tells all. Originally Posted by Mardigras9 .....Payton will right the ship for next year, this season is a hard one for him to swallow. I hope it is a hard to swallow. There are many Saints fans reeling also. Originally Posted by Mardigras9 Hey we beat the AFC north and NFC north division champs, and split with the NFC south division champs (if you want to throw that in) this year. and we lost to? It is the half full / half empty approach. Which is correct? Tune next season, same time, same channel.

12-30-2014, 04:03 PM	#19
pinch 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Diamondhead, MS Posts: 272 Blog Entries: 1	Re: The few excuses I can make for Sean Payton I think what we might have seen over the last couple of seasons is the "Tiger Woods" effect. Remember back when Tiger was setting the world on fire? That was also the time when he was banging every woman within eye sight. That was the Tiger that was so relaxed he could hit a 50 foot putt with his eyes closed. As long as the poon-tang was free-flowing, Tiger was untouchable. Unfortunately, as soon as the train of skanks came to an end, so did Tiger's game. He has never been the same. Now I'm not saying that Peyton was cheating on his wife, but the timeframe in which he was reported to be "feasting on the bearded oyster" was also the time we were winning Division Championships and Superbowl Titles. He's now back in a steady, monogamous relationship and our club is in shambles. Just a theory. MaggieMayTB likes this.
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12-30-2014, 04:20 PM	#20
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: The few excuses I can make for Sean Payton Originally Posted by pinch I think what we might have seen over the last couple of seasons is the "Tiger Woods" effect. Remember back when Tiger was setting the world on fire? That was also the time when he was banging every woman within eye sight. That was the Tiger that was so relaxed he could hit a 50 foot putt with his eyes closed. As long as the poon-tang was free-flowing, Tiger was untouchable. Unfortunately, as soon as the train of skanks came to an end, so did Tiger's game. He has never been the same. Now I'm not saying that Peyton was cheating on his wife, but the timeframe in which he was reported to be "feasting on the bearded oyster" was also the time we were winning Division Championships and Superbowl Titles. He's now back in a steady, monogamous relationship and our club is in shambles. Just a theory. Come on man... That's just crazy and disrespectful. UK_WhoDat, jnormand and K Major like this.

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