Sean Payton mum on Rob Ryan's future
 

New Orleans Saints defensive coordinator Rob Ryan doesn't seem like he's cleared his office out like his brother Rex Ryan had done in New York as of midday Monday.

Ryan walked into the Saints' locker room shortly before an 11 a.m. team meeting in a yellow button-down shirt with a sheet of paper in his hand. He greeted defensive tackle Tyrunn Walker with a handshake followed by a "bro" hug.

Sean Payton's Monday press conference to wrap up the 2014 season occurred more than an hour later, so it was a pretty safe bet that Payton didn't fire Ryan during that span.

Payton, however, still managed to cut off any questions about Ryan's future at the pass with his opening statement: "Anything we do from a personnel standpoint involving players, or from a coaching standpoint involving coaches, will be announced and talked about at the appropriate time. Today would not be the day to do that."

Sean Payton mum on Rob Ryan's future, but decision won't come easy: Larry Holder | NOLA.com

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I just don't know about this one. I Keep thinking we have to keep him for at least another year but then again, some of the Sh@# I've see our D do (or not do rather) is such a head-scratcher, I find it hard to wrap my brain around how he can possibly still have a job??!!!

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I think the players made Robs D look worse than it should have been

No pressure up front, DB's getting confused and blowing coverages, linebackers and safeties missing tackles

In my opinion, if Robs halftime speech to the D was anything like they made out it was, then SP can see that Rob genuinely cares about making the D better.

Although I could be wrong and SP could fire him lol.

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IMO, RR gets a mulligan because I doubt anyone foresaw the effect releasing Harper and Jenkins would have.

Since SP as well as RR signed off on releasing those players, they have to accept the blame for what occurred.

Since it can only improve, unless the league add half a dozen teams next year, I think the defense will get to at least middle of the pack next year.

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I am not enthusiastic about changing DC's every 2 years. We need some stability. I am in favor of keeping Rob if he is allowed to pick his assistant coaches and we trade or release those player who mailed it in early or who were locker room distractions.

And then on the other hand if there is someone better out there for DC we should consider a move.

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Let the playoffs play out. See who's available. THEN make a decision.

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There wont be much change with the core we habe. Im sorry but unless the boys on de just got freaken drunk from all the coolaide that was written and said before the season i dont see how we get better or any worst by giving RR his walking papers. If he stays im in if not im in. In payton we trust. Mickey too.

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I don't think Rob Ryan forgot how to coach. But i do think their was a communication problem.

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Rob isn't going anywhere. All we really need is o-line help and a waterboy.

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Are you offering?:p

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I am the cheap and available alternative. You betcha.

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Translation: We're dotting the I's and crossing the T's on his termination papers. We can't comment until its done.

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Yup... Sad but true, and if it wasn't the case Payton would have said so. No reason for Payton to make that statement if Rob was staying.

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So who do we get? We whiff on DC's more often that we do draft picks.

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If he lets Ryan go I hope Vitt and Johnson go too. If he stays I hope Vitt and Johnson go anyway. Anybody want the lb'er coach from San Fran, I do, immediate up-grade.

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Man I hope they give him another year. I really think it was fifty fifty as far as our defense and offense sucking. If the offense moved the ball better the D wouldn't be on the field as much. The D had their faults also though.

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Problem wasn't the safeties leaving, problem was the defensive front seven was ineffective because of injuries (i.e. Jenkins, Foster) and effort (i.e. Galette, Jordan, Hawthorne)...

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It seems as if Ryan is to much of a "buddy" to these players. The more I read into this the past couple of days, the more I'm beginning to think that Ryan may be to soft on them. Why is it that he had to raise his voice and get animated for half time for the players to get motivated? Gallete said it himself....he said after that speech,they felt like he really cared about this defense and they went out there and played hard for him. REALLY?!? That's the lamest thing I've ever heard. I remember Greg Williams flipping out on Tez during practice because he f**ked up. GW grabbed his face mask and cussed him out while pulling him off the field. Maybe we need that for these players. I think they take advantage of Ryan like any one of us would do if we had a pushover boss. No wonder they want him back.

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The problems were plentiful, the solutions were not.

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But the truth is, he has never been a good coach.

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Hell you never know SP could be on the hot-seat as well!

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Implication being maybe there was at least serious deficiency in his coaching skills.

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It's certain he will either stay or go! Sources have reported.

First we have to Define Stay and then Define Go

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We got any DJ's/VJ's?!?

I'd dedicate this one to the Payton/Ryan relationship...

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Things are a little too quiet. I need news damn it! Teams are lining up interviews with guys... What's the plan team?!

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Am I the only one who is actually more concerned by the fact that the players like Ryan? I mean if you look like complete and utter crap for a coach you like, what does that say? I think it makes it worse.

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wouldn't surprise me to see him fired

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kind of felt like that too

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Ah, the soundtrack of this saga continues...

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I totally agree with u QBrees, rob and his DB coaches really got screwed up in planning. if rob stays his litter of assistants has to be fired, this I have to go with bottom up not from the top. his asst's were handed to him and not his tree of coaches.

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I look at it like this: to fire Rob Ryan after only two years, would be admitting that Payton and Loomis got it wrong. When have they ever admitted to being wrong about anything. In Spagnuolo's case, they were able to use the excuse that Payton wasn't in the building, to save face and distance themselves from the "mistake" that they made in hiring him. And by firing Ryan so soon, now, it will inevitably call attention back to Spagnuolo's short history here, and also bring back memories of Gregg Williams' sudden departure and the various negative issues of Loomis and Payton and the Bountygate era locker room, right back into people's minds and back into the media. Which I assure you is the LAST THING Payton wants.

Therefore, to me it is highly unlikely they will fire Ryan right now. From the perspective of Payton and Loomis' own job security (which is really #1 with them, at this point), they are far more likely to make only minor tweaks and changes, rather than this huge grisly bloodbath of coaches and players that some people here seem to be predicting and wanting.

Payton actually said at the podium that it was "little things" that went wrong this year: that means he thinks it is NOT a big problem and this losing season was no big deal to him -- his and Loomis' own jobs are still safe. You don't fire your coordinators and whole staff over "little things," just like a doctor won't chop off somebody's head just because they have a pimple on their face.

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let him stay if you fail to get any of the great defensive minds out there on the free agent market to balk at all of our offers. or just do not bother.

I am at the point were the window is closing and the defense is a mess and the fact drew is getting hammered is priority number 1. get drew the help to keep him upright in the pocket and accept what ever the issue is with the defense will have to be second.

As Drew goes so does the saints.

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I think they are waiting to see if Rex goes to Atlanta. I could see Payton cutting RR loose if that happens.

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Anyone that thinks it was just the little things needs their head examined that goes for coach also.

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Cut our losses RR's history tells the story, but get the new DC right this time.

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Firing RR and replacing him with someone else that is inept won't help the problem. We need talented coaches not yes men.

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Reports Wade Phillips is interviewing for the DC job in Washington this week