Sick of some "fans"

alsaints113 · 01-09-2005, 04:01 PM

Well, I posted this messsage on the nola.com forum too.

I\'m glad there are a few people on that site and here (Danno, bayouking, and UK_Whodat) who got the point I was trying to make. Of course other people just saw the Green Bay comment and tore that up. And yes I know that the Packers are a consistently good team. My point was that you don\'t see Packers fans trying to destroy their team in the bad times.

People talking about boycotting the team and selling season tickets and all that is what inspired that post. Too many fans are trying to tear the team down and drive the team out of town who also claim they are fans. You can\'t be both! I will support the Saints no matter what! Us fans don\'t know the inner workings of the franchise and we can do nothing about it. By \"boycotting\" them, they lose money and we lose the team. That would do nothing but hurt an already hurting city and state.

I\'m glad to see that some people got the gist of my post but unfortunately others put it into their own context. And of course from the number of deleted and edited replies, some took it personally... feeling guilty?

For the admins, sorry for any \"language\". I simply copied my nola.com post here and I don\'t post enough to know all the rules.

Here are some replies to my nola.com post http://www.nola.com/forums/saints/:

Post #80119.4
I\'m with you man. Most of the characters on this forum think they know what the Saints need as gospel truth. If anyone on this forum had any sense of what creates positive performance in any arena, it is unconditional support. When you are down, the last thing you need is a kick in the shin, screw you, you\'re no good, get rid of you type of attitude. When someone has faith and confidence in you, you want to get up and play your best. Positive fan attitude gives that little edge that makes a huge difference. I\'m with you Saints. Count on me.

Heres another (I need to be fair and include the bad ones...I don\'t want to be accused of having an agenda):

Post #80119.4.1
Hello Jim Haslett!

I hope some people will understand how much some of the things people are saying nd saying about doing will hurt the Saints. It\'s not cool at all and disgusts me as a long time loyal Saints fans. If we survived thorugh the Billy Joe\'s we can survive anything!

spkb25 · 01-09-2005, 04:53 PM

i dont think anyone feels guilty for negative comments when your team comes out and stinks the joint up. what would make you think that. some people just didnt like your post and im one of them. im not an idiot and wont listen to you tell me i am because i dont blindly support the org. when their playing terrible. its not loosing its the half arse effort we got in so many games this year. im not going to stand by and support that. it doesnt make me any less of a fan or anyone else on here either

saintswhodi · 01-09-2005, 04:57 PM

Nice spk. I guess when you no longer wanna accept mediocrity and expect this team to start winning with the talent it has, you are allowed to get called an idiot and talked down to. Even the Chargers are winning now. And the Cards. And the Bengals. How long are we gonna be the laughing stock? Oh, but don\'t ask that, shetup and be loyal. LMAO.

GumboBC · 01-09-2005, 06:43 PM

I\'ve read on here that some fans only post when they can be negative.

That explained a lot to me.

I\'ll bet those folks are bad in relationships. Never anything positive to say, they just like to *****!!

BrooksMustGo · 01-09-2005, 09:04 PM

Also, if I hear one more person who wants to perform on Jake Delhomme my head will explode!

Hmmm, a nasty prospect. Would your head literally explode? I\'m sure we could find someone down at the Clover Grill that would post here.

kevinn1972 · 01-09-2005, 10:43 PM

I\'ve got to say alsaints113 really does have a legitimate point. I get negative on the saints too. I may not post it all here but trust me, sometimes I hate Mondays and the people who work with me know why. I get ticked off because just once I want to be the one bragging about how good my team is. Instead, I just kind of sit there, make the occasional sarcastic comment about how I\'m a real fan because I keep sticking with the Saints, and then usually I pout a little bit. The fans of this franchise have gotten used to being negative. I feel like you almost can\'t help it. We\'ve been teased for years and years.

I remember when Bum Philips came and brought Earl Campbell and Kenny Stabler with him. We came close to success but never really touched it. Then Jim Mora came. He gave us dominating defenses, and fairly decent offenses. I remember the heart that guys like Ricky Jackson and Dalton Hilliard used to show out there on the Dome turf. We got to the playoffs, and then imploded. Mike Ditka came then, and us fans thought \"Hey, here\'s a proven guy who willed a team to be dominant and win a Super Bowl\". Well, that may have been the case with the Bears, but we all know how that turned out with the Saints. And now we have Haslett, the man who took us to our first ever playoff victory. All of us felt that with the personnel that we had in place we were on the verge of having a super successful run of 3-5 years at the least. But, it has been nothing but one disappointment after another.

I\'ll agree that we need to be more positive when it comes to our team. However, don\'t tell those of us that can\'t always be positive that we\'re not real fans. I have earned the right to be critical of this team. I will ALWAYS support this team, but I need to be able to vent to people that can relate to my frustration. There are lots of positive posts on this board and some of them are mine. But venting here and reading posts from like-minded individuals KEEPS me a fan of this team. Otherwise I might have given up a long time ago. If you don\'t like some of the things that get said, then don\'t read it. By the way, I\'m pretty sure the team is going to get a share of the money I spent on my Duece jersey and my Saints football. I support my team.

Now after all that I hope we kick the ENTIRE NFL\'s @$$ NEXT YEAR!!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!!

[Edited on 10/1/2005 by kevinn1972]

4saintspirit · 01-10-2005, 08:44 AM

Personally I very rarely boo the Saints but I think the fans have every right to boo when they stink up the joint. Especially when it doesn\'t look like they are playing with any passion. Heck -- even Benson booed them this year.

JOESAM2002 · 01-10-2005, 09:52 AM

Boys, ya\'ll need to chill.Everyone gets the same treatment from me. If you don\'t believe it, try me!

mutineer10 · 01-10-2005, 11:02 AM

Also, if I hear one more person who wants to perform on Jake Delhomme my head will explode!

Hmmm, a nasty prospect. Would your head literally explode? I\'m sure we could find someone down at the Clover Grill that would post here.

Why BMG, whatever are you implying about the Grill? LOL

Just hope the head exploding doesn\'t take place WHILE \"performing on\" Delhomme ... that\'s truly a nasty prospect.

01-09-2005, 04:01 PM	#11
alsaints113 Registered Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 95	Sick of some "fans" Well, I posted this messsage on the nola.com forum too. I\'m glad there are a few people on that site and here (Danno, bayouking, and UK_Whodat) who got the point I was trying to make. Of course other people just saw the Green Bay comment and tore that up. And yes I know that the Packers are a consistently good team. My point was that you don\'t see Packers fans trying to destroy their team in the bad times. People talking about boycotting the team and selling season tickets and all that is what inspired that post. Too many fans are trying to tear the team down and drive the team out of town who also claim they are fans. You can\'t be both! I will support the Saints no matter what! Us fans don\'t know the inner workings of the franchise and we can do nothing about it. By \"boycotting\" them, they lose money and we lose the team. That would do nothing but hurt an already hurting city and state. I\'m glad to see that some people got the gist of my post but unfortunately others put it into their own context. And of course from the number of deleted and edited replies, some took it personally... feeling guilty? For the admins, sorry for any \"language\". I simply copied my nola.com post here and I don\'t post enough to know all the rules. Here are some replies to my nola.com post http://www.nola.com/forums/saints/: Post #80119.4 I\'m with you man. Most of the characters on this forum think they know what the Saints need as gospel truth. If anyone on this forum had any sense of what creates positive performance in any arena, it is unconditional support. When you are down, the last thing you need is a kick in the shin, screw you, you\'re no good, get rid of you type of attitude. When someone has faith and confidence in you, you want to get up and play your best. Positive fan attitude gives that little edge that makes a huge difference. I\'m with you Saints. Count on me. Heres another (I need to be fair and include the bad ones...I don\'t want to be accused of having an agenda): Post #80119.4.1 Hello Jim Haslett! I hope some people will understand how much some of the things people are saying nd saying about doing will hurt the Saints. It\'s not cool at all and disgusts me as a long time loyal Saints fans. If we survived thorugh the Billy Joe\'s we can survive anything!
alsaints113 Registered Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 95

01-09-2005, 04:53 PM	#12
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Sick of some "fans" i dont think anyone feels guilty for negative comments when your team comes out and stinks the joint up. what would make you think that. some people just didnt like your post and im one of them. im not an idiot and wont listen to you tell me i am because i dont blindly support the org. when their playing terrible. its not loosing its the half arse effort we got in so many games this year. im not going to stand by and support that. it doesnt make me any less of a fan or anyone else on here either
	Your team stinks

01-09-2005, 04:57 PM	#13
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Sick of some "fans" Nice spk. I guess when you no longer wanna accept mediocrity and expect this team to start winning with the talent it has, you are allowed to get called an idiot and talked down to. Even the Chargers are winning now. And the Cards. And the Bengals. How long are we gonna be the laughing stock? Oh, but don\'t ask that, shetup and be loyal. LMAO.

01-09-2005, 06:43 PM	#14
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Sick of some "fans" I\'ve read on here that some fans only post when they can be negative. That explained a lot to me. I\'ll bet those folks are bad in relationships. Never anything positive to say, they just like to *****!!
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01-09-2005, 09:04 PM	#15
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	Sick of some "fans" Also, if I hear one more person who wants to perform on Jake Delhomme my head will explode! Hmmm, a nasty prospect. Would your head literally explode? I\'m sure we could find someone down at the Clover Grill that would post here.

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01-09-2005, 10:43 PM	#16
kevinn1972 Registered Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Wichita Falls, TX Posts: 71	Sick of some "fans" I\'ve got to say alsaints113 really does have a legitimate point. I get negative on the saints too. I may not post it all here but trust me, sometimes I hate Mondays and the people who work with me know why. I get ticked off because just once I want to be the one bragging about how good my team is. Instead, I just kind of sit there, make the occasional sarcastic comment about how I\'m a real fan because I keep sticking with the Saints, and then usually I pout a little bit. The fans of this franchise have gotten used to being negative. I feel like you almost can\'t help it. We\'ve been teased for years and years. I remember when Bum Philips came and brought Earl Campbell and Kenny Stabler with him. We came close to success but never really touched it. Then Jim Mora came. He gave us dominating defenses, and fairly decent offenses. I remember the heart that guys like Ricky Jackson and Dalton Hilliard used to show out there on the Dome turf. We got to the playoffs, and then imploded. Mike Ditka came then, and us fans thought \"Hey, here\'s a proven guy who willed a team to be dominant and win a Super Bowl\". Well, that may have been the case with the Bears, but we all know how that turned out with the Saints. And now we have Haslett, the man who took us to our first ever playoff victory. All of us felt that with the personnel that we had in place we were on the verge of having a super successful run of 3-5 years at the least. But, it has been nothing but one disappointment after another. I\'ll agree that we need to be more positive when it comes to our team. However, don\'t tell those of us that can\'t always be positive that we\'re not real fans. I have earned the right to be critical of this team. I will ALWAYS support this team, but I need to be able to vent to people that can relate to my frustration. There are lots of positive posts on this board and some of them are mine. But venting here and reading posts from like-minded individuals KEEPS me a fan of this team. Otherwise I might have given up a long time ago. If you don\'t like some of the things that get said, then don\'t read it. By the way, I\'m pretty sure the team is going to get a share of the money I spent on my Duece jersey and my Saints football. I support my team. Now after all that I hope we kick the ENTIRE NFL\'s @$$ NEXT YEAR!!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!! [Edited on 10/1/2005 by kevinn1972]
	May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your crotch, and your arms be too short to scratch.

01-10-2005, 08:44 AM	#17
4saintspirit 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 690	Sick of some "fans" Personally I very rarely boo the Saints but I think the fans have every right to boo when they stink up the joint. Especially when it doesn\'t look like they are playing with any passion. Heck -- even Benson booed them this year.
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01-10-2005, 09:52 AM	#18
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Sick of some "fans" Boys, ya\'ll need to chill.Everyone gets the same treatment from me. If you don\'t believe it, try me!

01-10-2005, 11:02 AM	#19
mutineer10 Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 1,739	Sick of some "fans" Also, if I hear one more person who wants to perform on Jake Delhomme my head will explode! Hmmm, a nasty prospect. Would your head literally explode? I\'m sure we could find someone down at the Clover Grill that would post here. Why BMG, whatever are you implying about the Grill? LOL Just hope the head exploding doesn\'t take place WHILE \"performing on\" Delhomme ... that\'s truly a nasty prospect.