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|Mitch| 01-05-2015 11:53 AM

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|Mitch| 01-05-2015 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 636287)
???? you wouldn't be adding anything, just paying the guaranteed part of his salary that's already projected.

You all are far too concerned about the salary cap every offseason.

Apparently you have no clue:


|Mitch| 01-05-2015 11:55 AM

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Foot Stomper 01-05-2015 11:59 AM

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Guess he isn't tweeting about this one is he?? An idiot for sure. See ya Junior. I think you were more of a problem than part of a solution for us.

|Mitch| 01-05-2015 11:59 AM

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|Mitch| 01-05-2015 11:59 AM

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Jack Vegas 01-05-2015 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 636306)
Apparently you have no clue:

I know what a roster bonus is, thank you very much. Galette's comes due on March 12, according to this:

Junior Galette Arrested: Latest Details, Comments Surrounding Saints Star | Bleacher Report

If he is not on the roster at that point, then the Saints are off the hook for the majority of his salary this year. Because 12.5 of that 15 million is roster bonus. Let me repeat: If he's not on the roster, he doesn't collect the roster bonus. This is not hard to understand.

|Mitch| 01-05-2015 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 636311)
I know what a roster bonus is, thank you very much.

Apparently not, he still has 12 million guaranteed we have to pay whether he is on the team or not... you were saying the roster bonus wasn't guaranteed... :rolleyes:


Jack Vegas 01-05-2015 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 636312)
Apparently not, he still has 12 million guaranteed we have to pay whether he is on the team or not...

Incorrect

|Mitch| 01-05-2015 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 636313)
Incorrect

Really?!


Jack Vegas 01-05-2015 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 636314)

yes. really. Fletcher Mackel is wrong. If Galette is on the team come March 12, he collects the roster bonus. If he is not on the team come March 12, he does not. That is why it is called a roster bonus.

lee909 01-05-2015 12:11 PM

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Still the guaranteed money to deal with.

Just read charged for pushing womam to floor. Lets let tge fact emerge

|Mitch| 01-05-2015 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 636315)
yes. really. Fletcher Mackel is wrong. If Galette is on the team come March 12, he collects the roster bonus. If he is not on the team come March 12, he does not. That is why it is called a roster bonus.

Sorry; I trust Mackal and overthecap.com a lot more than you :rolleyes:

Jack Vegas 01-05-2015 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 636317)
Sorry; I trust Mackal and overthecap.com a lot more than you :rolleyes:

Feel free to do that, but they're wrong.

|Mitch| 01-05-2015 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 636318)
Feel free to do that, but they're wrong.

Junior Galette Contract Details and Salary Cap Charges | Over The Cap

do you understand what guaranteed money is? :rolleyes: means we have to pay it regardless if he is cut or not... We can't cut him without paying whatever is left of the 23 million guaranteed, but keep arguing

Jack Vegas 01-05-2015 12:13 PM

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do you understand what a roster bonus is?

|Mitch| 01-05-2015 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 636320)
do you understand what a roster bonus is?

so your saying his guaranteed(12.5 according to Mackal) won't count because it is roster bonus? :rolleyes:

|Mitch| 01-05-2015 12:17 PM

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Jack Vegas 01-05-2015 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 636321)
so your saying his guaranteed won't count because it is roster bonus? :rolleyes:

It's only guaranteed if he is on the roster.

Roster bonus works like this: If you are on the roster when the bonus comes due, you get it. Typically these are broken down by game though. For instance you might get a 10 million roster bonus, divided by 16 (because there are 16 games). If a player only plays 8 games then, he would only receive half that roster bonus.

Galette's roster bonus was fully guaranteed, meaning that even if he missed half the games he would still get the whole thing. But even then, he doesn't get any of it if he is not on the roster come March 12.

Hope this helps.

The dead money is another issue, but most of that is being kicked down the road. Cutting him wouldn't have much effect on this year's cap. If you are worried about 2017 or 2018 that's another issue but I doubt Loomis is thinking that far ahead. We're year to year at this point.

|Mitch| 01-05-2015 12:19 PM

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Can't be that big of a deal with only a $600/$300 bond

|Mitch| 01-05-2015 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 636323)
It's only guaranteed if he is on the roster.

Roster bonus works like this: If you are on the roster when the bonus comes due, you get it. Typically these are broken down by game though. For instance you might get a 10 million roster bonus, divided by 16 (because there are 16 games). If a player only plays 8 games then, he would only receive half that roster bonus.

Galette's roster bonus was fully guaranteed, meaning that even if he missed half the games he would still get the whole thing. But even then, he doesn't get any of it if he is not on the roster come March 12.

Hope this helps.

Makes absolutely no sense, guaranteed money is guaranteed money...
Junior Galette Contract Details and Salary Cap Charges | Over The Cap shows that Galette has 16.2 in dead money and cutting him would only save us 750,000... that still 15.something we will have to pay regardless where he is next year :rolleyes:

After next year, he will have 2 million guaranteed left, and we will save more by cutting unless he restructures

Jack Vegas 01-05-2015 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 636325)
Makes absolutely no sense, guaranteed money is guaranteed money...
Junior Galette Contract Details and Salary Cap Charges | Over The Cap shows that Galette has 16.2 in dead money and cutting him would only save us 750,000... that still 15.something we will have to pay regardless where he is next year :rolleyes:

OK then, tell you what. If you don't want to believe me, then don't! It makes no difference to me.

I would, however, suggest that you do some research on what a roster bonus is, how they are paid out, and figure it all out for yourself. It's really not that complicated once you get into it.

|Mitch| 01-05-2015 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 636326)
OK then, tell you what. If you don't want to believe me, then don't! It makes no difference to me.

I would, however, suggest that you do some research on what a roster bonus is, how they are paid out, and figure it all out for yourself. It's really not that complicated once you get into it.

I would suggest you do some research on what guaranteed and dead money is, how it is paid out and figure it all out for yourself...

With your "theory" we could cut Drew because he has no roster bonus and not have to pay him the rest of his guaranteed...

ignorance...

Jack Vegas 01-05-2015 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 636327)
I would suggest you do some research on what guaranteed and dead money is, how it is paid out and figure it all out for yourself...

With your "theory" we could cut Drew because he has no roster bonus and not have to pay him the rest of his guaranteed...

ignorance...

I don't think you understand, but I wish you wouldn't be so hostile about this.

Galette's cap number is $15 million dollars. The roster bonus, $12.5 million, comprises most of that $15 million. Therefore, if he doesn't receive his roster bonus, the cap number is greatly reduced (keep in mind, I'm only talking about in terms of this year, not the dead money from other parts of the contract that gets carried into future years).

I should note that overthecap's projection are made with the assumption that the roster bonus will be paid out. If the player is cut before the bonus comes due their projections will change accordingly.

That's what happened with Lance Moore and Harper last year, for instance. Hence we are not carrying a huge dead money number for them (among others).

Your example about Brees is the exact reverse situation. So I don't know exactly where you are coming from here.

Jack Vegas 01-05-2015 12:38 PM

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It goes without saying that all of this is extremely hypothetical since the charges don't seem big enough to justify Galette's release anyway. The point was only that, if Loomis chose to do so, it's not a huge tragedy as far as the salary cap is concerned. With that, I'll bow out of the "argument."

halloween 65 01-05-2015 12:48 PM

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I went to town for 1 hr. not only did JR. get arrested there were 7 pages on this, all of u miss nothing do ya!!

Jack Vegas 01-05-2015 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 636332)
I went to town for 1 hr. not only did JR. get arrested there were 7 pages on this, all of u miss nothing do ya!!

LOL

SloMotion 01-05-2015 01:01 PM

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saintfan 01-05-2015 01:03 PM

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So he pushed her to the floor (we don't know why) and she grabbed a knife and threatened him. Is that what we know so far?

hagan714 01-05-2015 01:04 PM

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Kenner PD: it was an automatic arrest of Galette & cousin this morning because woman had injuries: earring ripped out and scratches on face[/SIZE] 636298]https://twitter.com/Leigh_Isaacson/s...57822696177664

OMG he fights like a girl.

this is how this will go down i bet

Ok she admitted she grabbed a knife in a verbal argument.
he defends himself. scratching and clawing and pulls ear rings
then proceeded to sit on her to restrain her
he has a witness
besides the fact this is man vs woman equality - in a court of law :rolleyes:
it is self defense

now lets see the facts as they unfold

Jack Vegas 01-05-2015 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 636338)
So he pushed her to the floor (we don't know why) and she grabbed a knife and threatened him. Is that what we know so far?

Something about cab fare? And apparently she wasn't his girlfriend but actually his cleaning lady? I don't know, it all sounds pretty ghetto. Either way it's probably not a big deal. Not as bad as Will Smith draggin' his old lady around by her hair, anyway. :D

dizzle88 01-05-2015 01:10 PM

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She was angry he didn't get those final 2.5 sacks for the season.

The Dude 01-05-2015 01:21 PM

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Great seasons over and NOW is the time he gets physical.

Cruize 01-05-2015 01:32 PM

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Hopefully they can just cut the guy.

Jack Vegas 01-05-2015 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 636343)
Great seasons over and NOW is the time he gets physical.

heeeeyyyooooo

lee909 01-05-2015 01:38 PM

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I wish he could have pushed a tackle to the fall this year

Rugby Saint II 01-05-2015 02:12 PM

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It sounds like she's a hooker on his retainer and he said she wasn't getting cab fare too. :smile:

lee909 01-05-2015 02:18 PM

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Hey,gotta got costs when you dont get your sack bonus.
Times are tough

jnormand 01-05-2015 02:34 PM

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I know one thing, when the police show up they don't just hook someone up and take them to jail on a he said she said deal. Not to mention this is not some random guy. The police probably knew who he was before they got there.

There has to be physical evidence to corroborate one or both parties stories. Then the police will take the aggressor to jail.

I'm not saying that what always happens, but that's what should always happen.

And I'm thinking if the police arrested a local icon like Junior, they know he'd have a good attorney because he has money, so they have to make sure there is a strong case on him before they ever arrest him.

NonieT 01-05-2015 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 636358)
I know one thing, when the police show up they don't just hook someone up and take them to jail on a he said she said deal. Not to mention this is not some random guy. The police probably knew who he was before they got there.

There has to be physical evidence to corroborate one or both parties stories. Then the police will take the aggressor to jail.

I'm not saying that what always happens, but that's what should always happen.

And I'm thinking if the police arrested a local icon like Junior, they know he'd have a good attorney because he has money, so they have to make sure there is a strong case on him before they ever arrest him.

Junior is a lot of things, but icon ain't one of them.


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