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Was hoping we could have found another interior offensive lineman at the Veteran's Combine to push things for camp...

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I don't know why people continue to pay any attention to PFF. It's just some dude's with their own convoluted opinions, most of which make little to no sense. There is nothing scientific about these "rankings".

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Your right... I guess the gain in popularity with their stats and constant mention of PFF in almost every major sports coverage outlet should just be ignored.

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PFT’s 2015 All-Unemployed Team | ProFootballTalk

Slim pickins'...

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That's right genius. They SHOULD be ignored, as their rating system far more often than not fails to make valid observations of a player. Yet people (like you apparently) continue to buy into it just because. How many Rating services are out there for the NFL? Where else would people go if they wanted that kind of information? Of course it's popular when they have little to no competition.

And because people want to feel like they know everything, they accept what they read without bothering to actually watch the player in question and see if he really lives up to his PFF ranking.

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Except for the players and coaches who endorse PFF for how accurate they are.

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PFF can shove it, I'll continue to make judgments with my own two eyes which is why I'd like to see a replacement for Strief ASAP

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Name me 1 example of how you think it fails to make a valid observation...

I suggest you read this: https://www.profootballfocus.com/about/grading/

Focus on this section:
"How subjective is the Grading?

Many people say that as soon as you start grading, you bring subjectivity into your work. Obviously, to some degree, that’s true.

However, there’s also subjectivity around whether a play was a QB run for negative yardage or a sack, if an assist on a tackle should be awarded and if a catch was dropped or not. Sure, you can come up with a set of rules to determine which is which, but in the end, at the borderline between one and the other, it’s always subjective. It comes down to a judgment call.

The real trick of grading is to define a clear set of rules, encompassing each type of play. If your rules are thorough and precise enough, the answers just fall out. It becomes as easy as determining the dropped pass that hit the TE right between the numbers.

Statistics in their raw form are considered objective. But in our opinion, with the small number of NFL games played each season, raw stats are very often unintelligent. If a QB throws three interceptions in a game but one came from a dropped pass, another from a WR running a poor route and a third on a Hail Mary at the end of the half, it skews his stats by far too great an amount to be useful. Our grading allows us to bring some intelligence to the raw numbers and with many different sets of eyes getting a look at each game, we’re able to avoid the individual biases that may arise if only one person was responsible for grading the game."

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What players or coaches would that be? Coaches have their own grades, and I'm sure any player who ranks high on a list will praise it, and those who rank low will say it's wrong. That's not a legitimate judgement, in my opinion.

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Here's one example for you. A random PFF ranking list from the 2013 season.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...top-to-bottom/

You can go on and on about raw stats and all of that... I know that stats don't tell the whole story, I'm not some football noob. I know if a guy has 100 plus tackles that doesn't tell the story of how many of them are just garbage -pile on at the end of the play- assisted tackles, and it also doesn't tell of missed tackles. I can tell that with my own eyes. Everyone can. Vinny Testeverde is one of the all time leaders in passing yards, but won't ever be a Hall of Famer because people who watched him know that he was just a compiler. He was average at best.

That list above that I gave has some really egregious rankings. Colston makes the list, but no Dez Bryant, as a commenter on the page points out, and Tom Brady (who I hate giving credit, but c'mon) is 90th on that list behind the likes of Drew Brees and Philip Rivers at his own position... neither of those guys have been near the same players the past couple years. Josh Gordon, who blew away the NFL in the 14 games he played that year ranks 74th?

And I'm constantly hearing about how Strief supposedly ranks in the top end of his position, when anyone who has watched him play knows that our tackles are always causing drew to run for his life. Does PFF take into account the amount of sacks he's saved them? You'd think that would be a pretty easy thing to grade, but their rankings don't seem to reflect it.