Dennis Allen Rejoins Saints

01-20-2015, 06:53 AM

Priority #1 - fix the secondary.

Add a FA CB who can start day one!

blackangold · 01-20-2015, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by ScottF

"a senior defensive role"
I assume he'll have a big say in everything, with focus on DB's?

Wow...

Just shows that Payton/Loomis won't be replacing any of the dead weight on the staff... shame.

We have 5 different DCs in the last 10 years but the position coaches don't change, so our defense will continue to be a bottom feeder.

Danno · 01-20-2015, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Wow...

Just shows that Payton/Loomis won't be replacing any of the dead weight on the staff... shame.

We have 5 different DCs in the last 10 years but the position coaches don't change, so our defense will continue to be a bottom feeder.

Why do you assume that?

Didn't you also assume nothing would be done on defense before we hired Dennis Allen?

K Major · 01-20-2015, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Big step down for Allen though, goes from HC to a position coach...

If the Big Lebowski (Rob Ryan) has another blunder of a season, Allen gets the promotion to DC position next year.

mighty12 · 01-20-2015, 08:49 AM

Also, Schefty is reporting through the ole Tweeter feed that former GM Jeff Ireland will take over college scouting.

I think the Dennis Allen hire is a safety net for if Ryan has another terrible season. The Saints will then promote Allen to DC. Just a hunch though. Nothing to back that up.

lee909 · 01-20-2015, 08:56 AM

Unsure about Fisher,Dolphins draft picks sketchy under him

blackangold · 01-20-2015, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Why do you assume that?

Didn't you also assume nothing would be done on defense before we hired Dennis Allen?

Just stating observations Danno.

Allen was hired to put pressure on Rob Ryan, not to replace any position coaches (Not my words, just restating what the NOLA article says).

To me that means we will have yet another DC with the same staff under him and expect different results...

There is no way you can justify having the same positional coaching staff for 10 years but going through 6 DC in that time due to poor performance.

Allen's hire to this position tells me (my opinion) that they are putting more pressure on Rob and refuse to give him the help he really needs-- new position coaches. Our defense will continue to be inconsistent as long as Vitt and Johnson are around.

Mardigras9 · 01-20-2015, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Priority #1 - fix the secondary.

Well there is 6 secondary players on that Raider list he is coming from

brees84 · 01-20-2015, 09:56 AM

Rob Ryan must be ecstatic. lol

I start to feel sorry for the big guy.

brees84 · 01-20-2015, 10:06 AM

I hope that Ireland's interview technique improved. Guy asked Dez Bryant if his mother was a whore.

01-20-2015, 06:53 AM	#11
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01-20-2015, 07:34 AM	#12
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Dennis Allen Rejoins Saints Originally Posted by ScottF "a senior defensive role" I assume he'll have a big say in everything, with focus on DB's? Wow... Just shows that Payton/Loomis won't be replacing any of the dead weight on the staff... shame. We have 5 different DCs in the last 10 years but the position coaches don't change, so our defense will continue to be a bottom feeder.

01-20-2015, 07:58 AM	#13
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,761	Re: Dennis Allen Rejoins Saints Originally Posted by blackangold Wow... Just shows that Payton/Loomis won't be replacing any of the dead weight on the staff... shame. We have 5 different DCs in the last 10 years but the position coaches don't change, so our defense will continue to be a bottom feeder. Why do you assume that? Didn't you also assume nothing would be done on defense before we hired Dennis Allen?

01-20-2015, 08:43 AM	#14
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,916 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Dennis Allen Rejoins Saints Originally Posted by blackangold Big step down for Allen though, goes from HC to a position coach... If the Big Lebowski (Rob Ryan) has another blunder of a season, Allen gets the promotion to DC position next year.

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mighty12 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 980 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Dennis Allen Rejoins Saints Also, Schefty is reporting through the ole Tweeter feed that former GM Jeff Ireland will take over college scouting. I think the Dennis Allen hire is a safety net for if Ryan has another terrible season. The Saints will then promote Allen to DC. Just a hunch though. Nothing to back that up.

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01-20-2015, 09:07 AM	#17
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Dennis Allen Rejoins Saints Originally Posted by Danno Why do you assume that? Didn't you also assume nothing would be done on defense before we hired Dennis Allen? Just stating observations Danno. Allen was hired to put pressure on Rob Ryan, not to replace any position coaches (Not my words, just restating what the NOLA article says). To me that means we will have yet another DC with the same staff under him and expect different results... There is no way you can justify having the same positional coaching staff for 10 years but going through 6 DC in that time due to poor performance. Allen's hire to this position tells me (my opinion) that they are putting more pressure on Rob and refuse to give him the help he really needs-- new position coaches. Our defense will continue to be inconsistent as long as Vitt and Johnson are around. MarchingOn likes this.

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Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Dennis Allen Rejoins Saints Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Priority #1 - fix the secondary. Well there is 6 secondary players on that Raider list he is coming from

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