Ranking Saints needs: No. 1 cornerback

papz · 01-20-2015, 09:01 AM

A position-by-position look at where the New Orleans Saints stand heading into the 2015 offseason – ranked from 1-12 in order of the team’s need for upgrades or replacements.

Current depth chart:

Keenan Lewis. Age 28, signed through 2017. 2015 salary and bonuses: $2.55 million. 2015 salary-cap number: $4.85 million.

Terrence Frederick. Age 24, scheduled to become exclusive rights free agent in 2016. 2015 salary and bonuses: $510,000. 2015 salary-cap number $510,000.

Patrick Robinson. Age 27, unrestricted free agent.

Corey White. Age 24, signed through 2015. 2015 salary and bonuses: $1.574 million. 2015 salary-cap number: $1.618 million.

Brian Dixon. Age 24, scheduled to become restricted free agent in 2017. 2015 salary and bonuses: $510,000. 2015 salary-cap number: $511,666.

Stanley Jean-Baptiste. Age 24, signed through 2017. 2015 salary and bonuses: $585,306. 2015 salary-cap number: $826,530.

A.J. Davis.. Age 25, exclusive rights free agent.

Read more: Ranking Saints needs: No. 1 cornerback - ESPN

VegasSaint9 · 01-20-2015, 09:35 AM

This is just me but i think we need linebackers even more

mighty12 · 01-20-2015, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by VegasSaint9

This is just me but i think we need linebackers even more

Not just you, I feel the same way. An ILB that can contain the inside run while still have a decent grasp of playing in coverage and a well rounded OLB hat would open the door for Cam Jordan and Junior(Who I don't think will get suspended after reports the accuser fabricated her report) to rush the QB. Also, if we can get a DE opposite of Jordan that can disrupt plays on the outside that would be nice. I like Hicks but I like him more in the middle.

Euphoria · 01-20-2015, 10:40 AM

You can have all the damn CB's in the world but if you can't block for Brees and you can't stop the run... it really doesn't matter who you have at CB.

Start rebuilding at the OL and DL if you want to go back to a SB.

brees84 · 01-20-2015, 10:43 AM

Current depth chart:

Keenan Lewis

Danno · 01-20-2015, 11:42 AM

I think CB is easily the #1 need on defense. But that doesn't mean we don't need any front 7 help.

We need at least 1 good player to add to the D-line, LB's and secondary.

halloween 65 · 01-20-2015, 12:35 PM

It all starts up front. A CB is way down on my priority list.

jlaw8920 · 01-20-2015, 02:21 PM

Obviously we need people up front but it doesn't matter if the opposing QB can just immediately toss the ball up for a completion. On the rare occasions we got pressure this year or when we all out blitzed it didn't matter because anyone besides Lewis was immediately beaten in coverage. Having a shutdown corner in the CB 2 slot gives the team the option to rush with four and all out blitz.

halloween 65 · 01-20-2015, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by jlaw8920

Obviously we need people up front but it doesn't matter if the opposing QB can just immediately toss the ball up for a completion. On the rare occasions we got pressure this year or when we all out blitzed it didn't matter because anyone besides Lewis was immediately beaten in coverage. Having a shutdown corner in the CB 2 slot gives the team the option to rush with four and all out blitz.

I do agree in a way. But even a shut down corner can only cover for so long and if the rush gives a good(not great)qb. enough time coverage breaks down leading to pass completions on a fairly high level. On the flipside a solid front 7 giving any qb. less time and usually lead to more turnovers and more sacks. If I had to pick my poison so to speak I would rather have a stout front 7(run and pass) with decent to good CB. over a bad front 7(2013 Saints) with shutdown corners 24/7. I still wouldn't mind picking up a good to decent vet. in FA this season.

jlaw8920 · 01-20-2015, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I do agree in a way. But even a shut down corner can only cover for so long and if the rush gives a good(not great)qb. enough time coverage breaks down leading to pass completions on a fairly high level. On the flipside a solid front 7 giving any qb. less time and usually lead to more turnovers and more sacks. If I had to pick my poison so to speak I would rather have a stout front 7(run and pass) with decent to good CB. over a bad front 7(2013 Saints) with shutdown corners 24/7. I still wouldn't mind picking up a good to decent vet. in FA this season.

I can definitely see both sides of the argument. Having the stout front seven and mediocre CBs definitely seems to work well that way for a lot of teams(2013 Panthers). The mistakes constantly made by our #2&3 CBs just seem to be so much more apparent every game. I just can't stand how bad they are at both zone and man coverage. Excluding the legend that is Keenan Lewis of course.

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mighty12 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 980 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Ranking Saints needs: No. 1 cornerback Originally Posted by VegasSaint9 This is just me but i think we need linebackers even more Not just you, I feel the same way. An ILB that can contain the inside run while still have a decent grasp of playing in coverage and a well rounded OLB hat would open the door for Cam Jordan and Junior(Who I don't think will get suspended after reports the accuser fabricated her report) to rush the QB. Also, if we can get a DE opposite of Jordan that can disrupt plays on the outside that would be nice. I like Hicks but I like him more in the middle.

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Ranking Saints needs: No. 1 cornerback You can have all the damn CB's in the world but if you can't block for Brees and you can't stop the run... it really doesn't matter who you have at CB. Start rebuilding at the OL and DL if you want to go back to a SB. saintfan, Ashley, Beastmode and 2 others like this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,751	Re: Ranking Saints needs: No. 1 cornerback I think CB is easily the #1 need on defense. But that doesn't mean we don't need any front 7 help. We need at least 1 good player to add to the D-line, LB's and secondary. Beastmode likes this.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Ranking Saints needs: No. 1 cornerback It all starts up front. A CB is way down on my priority list. Beastmode and VegasSaint9 like this.

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jlaw8920 100th Post Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 123	Re: Ranking Saints needs: No. 1 cornerback Obviously we need people up front but it doesn't matter if the opposing QB can just immediately toss the ball up for a completion. On the rare occasions we got pressure this year or when we all out blitzed it didn't matter because anyone besides Lewis was immediately beaten in coverage. Having a shutdown corner in the CB 2 slot gives the team the option to rush with four and all out blitz. halloween 65 likes this.
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01-20-2015, 02:53 PM	#9
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Ranking Saints needs: No. 1 cornerback Originally Posted by jlaw8920 Obviously we need people up front but it doesn't matter if the opposing QB can just immediately toss the ball up for a completion. On the rare occasions we got pressure this year or when we all out blitzed it didn't matter because anyone besides Lewis was immediately beaten in coverage. Having a shutdown corner in the CB 2 slot gives the team the option to rush with four and all out blitz. I do agree in a way. But even a shut down corner can only cover for so long and if the rush gives a good(not great)qb. enough time coverage breaks down leading to pass completions on a fairly high level. On the flipside a solid front 7 giving any qb. less time and usually lead to more turnovers and more sacks. If I had to pick my poison so to speak I would rather have a stout front 7(run and pass) with decent to good CB. over a bad front 7(2013 Saints) with shutdown corners 24/7. I still wouldn't mind picking up a good to decent vet. in FA this season. MarchingOn and jlaw8920 like this.

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jlaw8920 100th Post Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 123	Re: Ranking Saints needs: No. 1 cornerback Originally Posted by halloween 65 I do agree in a way. But even a shut down corner can only cover for so long and if the rush gives a good(not great)qb. enough time coverage breaks down leading to pass completions on a fairly high level. On the flipside a solid front 7 giving any qb. less time and usually lead to more turnovers and more sacks. If I had to pick my poison so to speak I would rather have a stout front 7(run and pass) with decent to good CB. over a bad front 7(2013 Saints) with shutdown corners 24/7. I still wouldn't mind picking up a good to decent vet. in FA this season. I can definitely see both sides of the argument. Having the stout front seven and mediocre CBs definitely seems to work well that way for a lot of teams(2013 Panthers). The mistakes constantly made by our #2&3 CBs just seem to be so much more apparent every game. I just can't stand how bad they are at both zone and man coverage. Excluding the legend that is Keenan Lewis of course.
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