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papz 01-20-2015 09:01 AM

Ranking Saints needs: No. 1 cornerback
 
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A position-by-position look at where the New Orleans Saints stand heading into the 2015 offseason – ranked from 1-12 in order of the team’s need for upgrades or replacements.

Current depth chart:

Keenan Lewis. Age 28, signed through 2017. 2015 salary and bonuses: $2.55 million. 2015 salary-cap number: $4.85 million.

Terrence Frederick. Age 24, scheduled to become exclusive rights free agent in 2016. 2015 salary and bonuses: $510,000. 2015 salary-cap number $510,000.

Patrick Robinson. Age 27, unrestricted free agent.

Corey White. Age 24, signed through 2015. 2015 salary and bonuses: $1.574 million. 2015 salary-cap number: $1.618 million.

Brian Dixon. Age 24, scheduled to become restricted free agent in 2017. 2015 salary and bonuses: $510,000. 2015 salary-cap number: $511,666.

Stanley Jean-Baptiste. Age 24, signed through 2017. 2015 salary and bonuses: $585,306. 2015 salary-cap number: $826,530.

A.J. Davis.. Age 25, exclusive rights free agent.


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VegasSaint9 01-20-2015 09:35 AM

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This is just me but i think we need linebackers even more

Euphoria 01-20-2015 10:40 AM

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You can have all the damn CB's in the world but if you can't block for Brees and you can't stop the run... it really doesn't matter who you have at CB.

Start rebuilding at the OL and DL if you want to go back to a SB.

brees84 01-20-2015 10:43 AM

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Current depth chart:

Keenan Lewis

mighty12 01-20-2015 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by VegasSaint9 (Post 637978)
This is just me but i think we need linebackers even more

Not just you, I feel the same way. An ILB that can contain the inside run while still have a decent grasp of playing in coverage and a well rounded OLB hat would open the door for Cam Jordan and Junior(Who I don't think will get suspended after reports the accuser fabricated her report) to rush the QB. Also, if we can get a DE opposite of Jordan that can disrupt plays on the outside that would be nice. I like Hicks but I like him more in the middle.

Danno 01-20-2015 11:42 AM

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I think CB is easily the #1 need on defense. But that doesn't mean we don't need any front 7 help.

We need at least 1 good player to add to the D-line, LB's and secondary.

halloween 65 01-20-2015 12:35 PM

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It all starts up front. A CB is way down on my priority list.

jlaw8920 01-20-2015 02:21 PM

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Obviously we need people up front but it doesn't matter if the opposing QB can just immediately toss the ball up for a completion. On the rare occasions we got pressure this year or when we all out blitzed it didn't matter because anyone besides Lewis was immediately beaten in coverage. Having a shutdown corner in the CB 2 slot gives the team the option to rush with four and all out blitz.

Danno 01-20-2015 02:45 PM

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We have average to above average players up front, but we have a glaring weakness at that #2 CB spot.

I'm sure we address all of them.

Rugby Saint II 01-20-2015 02:53 PM

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1st we need a CB
2nd we need an ILB
3rd we need a NT

That is just on defense.

O-line is without a doubt my #1 priority.....but not necessarily my first pick :bng:

halloween 65 01-20-2015 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jlaw8920 (Post 638014)
Obviously we need people up front but it doesn't matter if the opposing QB can just immediately toss the ball up for a completion. On the rare occasions we got pressure this year or when we all out blitzed it didn't matter because anyone besides Lewis was immediately beaten in coverage. Having a shutdown corner in the CB 2 slot gives the team the option to rush with four and all out blitz.

I do agree in a way. But even a shut down corner can only cover for so long and if the rush gives a good(not great)qb. enough time coverage breaks down leading to pass completions on a fairly high level. On the flipside a solid front 7 giving any qb. less time and usually lead to more turnovers and more sacks. If I had to pick my poison so to speak I would rather have a stout front 7(run and pass) with decent to good CB. over a bad front 7(2013 Saints) with shutdown corners 24/7. I still wouldn't mind picking up a good to decent vet. in FA this season.

jlaw8920 01-20-2015 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 638020)
I do agree in a way. But even a shut down corner can only cover for so long and if the rush gives a good(not great)qb. enough time coverage breaks down leading to pass completions on a fairly high level. On the flipside a solid front 7 giving any qb. less time and usually lead to more turnovers and more sacks. If I had to pick my poison so to speak I would rather have a stout front 7(run and pass) with decent to good CB. over a bad front 7(2013 Saints) with shutdown corners 24/7. I still wouldn't mind picking up a good to decent vet. in FA this season.

I can definitely see both sides of the argument. Having the stout front seven and mediocre CBs definitely seems to work well that way for a lot of teams(2013 Panthers). The mistakes constantly made by our #2&3 CBs just seem to be so much more apparent every game. I just can't stand how bad they are at both zone and man coverage. Excluding the legend that is Keenan Lewis of course.

hagan714 01-21-2015 06:49 AM

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see i agree #1 need is a CB.
The one player that can make the biggest impact on the defense is CB

Now the good news is it does not have to work out to be a #1 quality CB in the end. if it did that much better.

Solid #2 CB are out there in FA and none need to be the player you break a bank for.

in the Draft a low risk - high rewards type of CB should be had all the way through the second. picking were we are picking in the third there is little hope of one of them falling to us. so if CB is needed i see the saints taking one in the second or needing to trade back into the second to get one.

notice i did not say you had to spend a first or make him your highest paid FA signing.

Unless you want to sign Revis. the only true shut down CB out there. the pats will not pay him that last year of the contract

K Major 01-21-2015 07:10 AM

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Time to make another splash in FA. There are some solid veteran corners out there looking for a new home.

Beastmode 01-21-2015 09:24 AM

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There is way more value in pressure. The whole unit can go from fair to good with one D-lineman that can bust the pocket. I think we address that in RD1. Probably get a CB in 3 or 4. If we don't it will be more of the same on that side.

Cruize 01-21-2015 10:56 AM

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Thompson or Beasley has to be the first pick if available. The Saints need impact on defense. They can get a starting guard and center in rounds 3-6.

MarchingOn 01-22-2015 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 638150)
Thompson or Beasley has to be the first pick if available. The Saints need impact on defense. They can get a starting guard and center in rounds 3-6.

I'm afraid we'll go with Thompson or Beasley in the 1st. Why do people think we need another Junior who can pass rush but is weak against the run?

We were at the bottom of the league in defense due to everyone running on us whenever they wanted. Or needed to.


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