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Tobias-Reiper 02-01-2015 01:07 PM

Re: Triplette: Why can't Saints develop linebackers?
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 639209)
It's the coaching, or lack thereof, from Joe Vitt...

With all the linebackers we've drafted, even if they weren't first, second rounders, we should have had one that stuck and was at least serviceable...

2006 R5 OLB/DE Rob Ninkovich, Purdue
2007 R7 LB Marvin Mitchell, Tennessee
2009 R4 LB Stanley Arnoux, Wake Forest
2011 R3 LB Martez Wilson, Illinois
2011 R7 LB Nate Bussey, Illinois
2013 R6 DE/LB Rufus Johnson, Tarleton State
2014 R4 LB Khairi Fort, California
2014 R5 LB Ronald Powell, Florida

A pretty pathetic list, but here's where I still put this on Vitt...

One, the assistant coaches are as much of the draft evaluation/decision-making as the scouts (who Joe Sr. has made sure Joe Jr. has a job with the Saints)...

Second, not even a backup or special teamer in there, not one?!?

Vitt needs to go...


Other than Ninkovich (who no one really cared about when he was released byt the Saints - twice - but now apparently is the 2nd coming of Lawrence Taylor since the Pats are going to play in the SB) who in your list is still in the NFL, and how are they doing?

Boutte 02-02-2015 07:12 PM

Re: Triplette: Why can't Saints develop linebackers?
 
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Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper (Post 639282)
Other than Ninkovich (who no one really cared about when he was released byt the Saints - twice - but now apparently is the 2nd coming of Lawrence Taylor since the Pats are going to play in the SB) who in your list is still in the NFL, and how are they doing?

Finally! Do people think that Vitt is just so magically bad a coach that being coached by him for a short period of time ruins good LB s to the point that they never play again?

halloween 65 02-03-2015 08:48 AM

Re: Triplette: Why can't Saints develop linebackers?
 
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Originally Posted by Boutte (Post 639569)
Finally! Do people think that Vitt is just so magically bad a coach that being coached by him for a short period of time ruins good LB s to the point that they never play again?

Not sure but I'm sure he hasn't majically been able to develop any.For him to develop any good lb. would be magic. Magic Joe doesn't really have a ring to it.

jeanpierre 02-03-2015 09:41 AM

Re: Triplette: Why can't Saints develop linebackers?
 
The only magic he's done is make them disappear...

Again, I point to some kind of development in a linebacker, even as a special teamer or quality backup...

And where is his influence, footprint on draft day?!?

If I were him, I'd be beating the table at some point to give me some talent...

Tobias-Reiper 02-03-2015 01:09 PM

Re: Triplette: Why can't Saints develop linebackers?
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 639635)
The only magic he's done is make them disappear...

Again, I point to some kind of development in a linebacker, even as a special teamer or quality backup...

Ok, so what you are saying is that Vitt is so terrible a coach, that not only he fails to develop rookie players, but he damages rookie players so bad, that he drains them of any talent they could possibly have, and they become completely useless for either the NFL or the CFL?

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And where is his influence, footprint on draft day?!?

If I were him, I'd be beating the table at some point to give me some talent...
And I take it you know for a fact he doesn't do that, right? I mean, we all know that Sean Payton goes for that...


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