Jimmy Graham says current plan is no shoulder surgery

WhoDat!656 · 01-31-2015, 04:38 PM

Before the Pro Bowl, Saints tight end Jimmy Graham said his participation in the annual all-star game will help determine whether he needs surgery on the shoulder he injured early in the regular season.

After the Pro Bowl, Graham told PFT Live on NBC Sports Radio that the current plan is to continue to rest and rehab the shoulder without surgery.

Graham said plenty more during his slot as the final guest in a week full of excellent conversations, from his aggressive approach to pick-up basketball to his love of flying to how the movie Top Gun sparked his passion for flying and provided the template for his first kiss.

The six-foot, seven-inch Graham also said he was first able to dunk a basketball when he was merely five feet, eight inches tall.

In all, Graham was loose, relaxed, funny — something that doesn’t come through very much while he’s bringing the same intensity to football that he does to basketball

Jimmy Graham says current plan is no shoulder surgery | ProFootballTalk

jeanpierre · 01-31-2015, 04:45 PM

So now we're going to geaux through half the season and then go on IR to do surgery that he should have had now...

Jimmy is becoming a Roger Dorn...

WhoDat!656 · 01-31-2015, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

So now we're going to geaux through half the season and then go on IR to do surgery that he should have had now...

Jimmy is becoming a Roger Dorn...

My feeling exactly!

AsylumGuido · 02-01-2015, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

So now we're going to geaux through half the season and then go on IR to do surgery that he should have had now...

Jimmy is becoming a Roger Dorn...

I have a sneaking feeling that Graham's high paid doctors know a bit more about his need, or lack of, for surgery than you. Surgery is always a last resort when it comes to joints areas. Yes, sometimes it is the only resort, but all surgeries come with a risk.

jeanpierre · 02-01-2015, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I have a sneaking feeling that Graham's high paid doctors know a bit more about his need, or lack of, for surgery than you. Surgery is always a last resort when it comes to joints areas. Yes, sometimes it is the only resort, but all surgeries come with a risk.

You're point that none of us have personally examined his shoulder to recommend surgery is valid, however...

Do you read, and do you comprehend what you read?!?

R-E-S-T was prescribed; so, he had no business playing in the ProBowl...

If my comment seems cynical, it is because it is founded in his selfish decision to play in a game that many have argued has reached its course and should be discontinued...

Actually, I'd like to look at the specifics of compensation for Graham for playing in the game...

Back to my experience with sports orthopedics; should it play out that he'll need surgery, it will probably be more involved and may affect next season's success as he procrastinated to have the procedure done...

Some of us are more informed, and have more experience than you idly dismiss; you should really reflect on the arrogant tone you project on members of this community that their opinions are invalid because they differ from yours...

Again, football is not rocket science...

AsylumGuido · 02-01-2015, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

You're point that none of us have personally examined his shoulder to recommend surgery is valid, however...

Do you read, and do you comprehend what you read?!?

R-E-S-T was prescribed; so, he had no business playing in the ProBowl...

If my comment seems cynical, it is because it is founded in his selfish decision to play in a game that many have argued has reached its course and should be discontinued...

Actually, I'd like to look at the specifics of compensation for Graham for playing in the game...

Back to my experience with sports orthopedics; should it play out that he'll need surgery, it will probably be more involved and may affect next season's success as he procrastinated to have the procedure done...

Some of us are more informed, and have more experience than you idly dismiss; you should really reflect on the arrogant tone you project on members of this community that their opinions are invalid because they differ from yours...

Again, football is not rocket science...

R-E-S-T was prescribed AFTER playing in the Pro Bowl to test it out. The whole week before everything was about using the Pro Bowl as a test. Do you honestly think that was all on Graham? That smacks of what a doctor would say.

After the game it was determined that R-E-S-T was all that was required. Not surgery.

You implied earlier that not having surgery was a mistake. Once again, how do you know more than Graham and his doctors? Do you even have the slightest clue as to what procedure may need to be done? Please share your "experience with sports orthopedics".

st thomas · 02-02-2015, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

So now we're going to geaux through half the season and then go on IR to do surgery that he should have had now...

Jimmy is becoming a Roger Dorn...

doesn't it sound so familiar, its gets repeat hit in the same shoulder in spring and dr's say surgery to get it healed, jimmy you have to understand that when you go short arming your drops for half a season can cause domino effect on your team bro. everyone seems to drop off. show us and your team the money jimmy, it works all the time, same for jr. galette and cam, and drew, jari, grubbs, colston, every starter to back ups man. that's what made it happen in 09, everyone took care of their bodies and DID THEIR JOBS.

brees84 · 01-31-2015, 05:35 PM

Pro Bowl is the right game to test your shoulder. lol Game where players on defense are afraid to hit opponents.

UK_WhoDat · 02-01-2015, 11:53 AM

I say, despite the risks from surgery, the current plan SHOULD BE rehab the shoulder with surgery and rest.

That is against the risk of continuing, as he has done, with an injury that made him pretyy well ineffective last season.

AsylumGuido · 02-01-2015, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat

I say, despite the risks from surgery, the current plan SHOULD BE rehab the shoulder with surgery and rest.

That is against the risk of continuing, as he has done, with an injury that made him pretyy well ineffective last season.

Have you examined Graham yourself? What did his MRI's look like? How did you determine that it was an injury that could not heal sans surgery? Did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Jimmy Graham says current plan is no shoulder surgery So now we're going to geaux through half the season and then go on IR to do surgery that he should have had now... Jimmy is becoming a Roger Dorn... Halo, st thomas and SloMotion like this.

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WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,086	Re: Jimmy Graham says current plan is no shoulder surgery Originally Posted by jeanpierre So now we're going to geaux through half the season and then go on IR to do surgery that he should have had now... Jimmy is becoming a Roger Dorn... My feeling exactly!

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,573	Re: Jimmy Graham says current plan is no shoulder surgery Originally Posted by jeanpierre So now we're going to geaux through half the season and then go on IR to do surgery that he should have had now... Jimmy is becoming a Roger Dorn... I have a sneaking feeling that Graham's high paid doctors know a bit more about his need, or lack of, for surgery than you. Surgery is always a last resort when it comes to joints areas. Yes, sometimes it is the only resort, but all surgeries come with a risk. Ashley, Rugby Saint II, \|Mitch\| and 2 others like this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Jimmy Graham says current plan is no shoulder surgery Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I have a sneaking feeling that Graham's high paid doctors know a bit more about his need, or lack of, for surgery than you. Surgery is always a last resort when it comes to joints areas. Yes, sometimes it is the only resort, but all surgeries come with a risk. You're point that none of us have personally examined his shoulder to recommend surgery is valid, however... Do you read, and do you comprehend what you read?!? R-E-S-T was prescribed; so, he had no business playing in the ProBowl... If my comment seems cynical, it is because it is founded in his selfish decision to play in a game that many have argued has reached its course and should be discontinued... Actually, I'd like to look at the specifics of compensation for Graham for playing in the game... Back to my experience with sports orthopedics; should it play out that he'll need surgery, it will probably be more involved and may affect next season's success as he procrastinated to have the procedure done... Some of us are more informed, and have more experience than you idly dismiss; you should really reflect on the arrogant tone you project on members of this community that their opinions are invalid because they differ from yours... Again, football is not rocket science...
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02-01-2015, 02:37 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,573	Re: Jimmy Graham says current plan is no shoulder surgery Originally Posted by jeanpierre You're point that none of us have personally examined his shoulder to recommend surgery is valid, however... Do you read, and do you comprehend what you read?!? R-E-S-T was prescribed; so, he had no business playing in the ProBowl... If my comment seems cynical, it is because it is founded in his selfish decision to play in a game that many have argued has reached its course and should be discontinued... Actually, I'd like to look at the specifics of compensation for Graham for playing in the game... Back to my experience with sports orthopedics; should it play out that he'll need surgery, it will probably be more involved and may affect next season's success as he procrastinated to have the procedure done... Some of us are more informed, and have more experience than you idly dismiss; you should really reflect on the arrogant tone you project on members of this community that their opinions are invalid because they differ from yours... Again, football is not rocket science... R-E-S-T was prescribed AFTER playing in the Pro Bowl to test it out. The whole week before everything was about using the Pro Bowl as a test. Do you honestly think that was all on Graham? That smacks of what a doctor would say. After the game it was determined that R-E-S-T was all that was required. Not surgery. You implied earlier that not having surgery was a mistake. Once again, how do you know more than Graham and his doctors? Do you even have the slightest clue as to what procedure may need to be done? Please share your "experience with sports orthopedics". captainshawn likes this.

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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Jimmy Graham says current plan is no shoulder surgery Originally Posted by jeanpierre So now we're going to geaux through half the season and then go on IR to do surgery that he should have had now... Jimmy is becoming a Roger Dorn... doesn't it sound so familiar, its gets repeat hit in the same shoulder in spring and dr's say surgery to get it healed, jimmy you have to understand that when you go short arming your drops for half a season can cause domino effect on your team bro. everyone seems to drop off. show us and your team the money jimmy, it works all the time, same for jr. galette and cam, and drew, jari, grubbs, colston, every starter to back ups man. that's what made it happen in 09, everyone took care of their bodies and DID THEIR JOBS. jeanpierre likes this.
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UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,001	Re: Jimmy Graham says current plan is no shoulder surgery I say, despite the risks from surgery, the current plan SHOULD BE rehab the shoulder with surgery and rest. That is against the risk of continuing, as he has done, with an injury that made him pretyy well ineffective last season.

02-01-2015, 12:42 PM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,573	Re: Jimmy Graham says current plan is no shoulder surgery Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat I say, despite the risks from surgery, the current plan SHOULD BE rehab the shoulder with surgery and rest. That is against the risk of continuing, as he has done, with an injury that made him pretyy well ineffective last season. Have you examined Graham yourself? What did his MRI's look like? How did you determine that it was an injury that could not heal sans surgery? Did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night? captainshawn likes this.

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