2014 NFL Draft Grade A Day | New Orleans Saints

hagan714 · 02-10-2015, 05:24 PM

2014 NFL Draft Grade A Day | New Orleans Saints

Round 1 - Brandin Cooks WR, Oregon St.
Analysis - Cooks rookie season was cut short by injury but he still made quite the splash.He caught 53 passes in 10 games and scored 4 total touchdowns. He proved to be the electric playmaker the Saints were hoping for.
Score – 4/5
Round 2 - Stanley Jean Baptise CB, NebraskaAnalysis – Jean Baptise was a bust in year one. He appeared in 4 games but disappeared on the stat sheet.
Score – 0/4
Round 4- Khairi Fortt LB, California
Analysis – Khairi Fortted in his time with the Saints. Now belongs to the Jags.
Score - 0/2
Round 5 - Vinnie Sunseri S, Alabama
Analysis - Sunseri played in 9 games making 5 tackles. I’ve seen worse.
Score – 0/1
Round 5 - Ronald Powell OLB, Florida
Analysis – Powell played in 14 games but had just a couple of tackles.
Score – 0/1
Round 6 - Tavon Rooks OT, Kansas St.
Analysis – Rooks just didn’t get on the field.
Score – 0/0
Undrafted - Kasim Edebali OLB, Boston College
Analysis - Finally the Saints find some production and it comes via an undrafted guy. Edebali played in every single game making 22 tackles, 2 sacks, and forcing a fumble. Well done.
Score – 1/0

NEW ORLEANS SAINTS 2014 NFL DRAFT GRADE

FINAL SCORE & Grade 5/11| 45% | F

2014 NFL Draft Grade A Day | New Orleans Saints - DraftSeason

halloween 65 · 02-10-2015, 06:24 PM

I like Cooks but a 1st and 3rd still seems really high, he has the speed to make a difference
Baptiste- seen nothing- to high for a 2nd rounder not seeing any action last season
Sunseri- I think is going to be a 5th round steal- good pick.
Powell- I haven't ruled him out and think he could be solid depth if nothing else.
Ediboli- he's growing. I hope he becomes a monster at OLB. I have hope.
I also like our new KR( his name slips my mind) and Byrds new back-up at FS Warren.
Actual draft-D-
UDFA pick-ups-C+. Anytime we get 2 UDFA that continue to contribute that is a good thing.

jeanpierre · 02-11-2015, 04:24 AM

Cooks is a good player, great attitude...

But two of Colston's eventual replacements, Kelvin Benjamin and Jordan Matthews could have been selected had we sat tight and we still would have had our third round pick for...

A couple of players we could have selected with that pick...

WR John Brown, AZ (the selection the traded pick was used for had 48 rec, 696 yds, 5 TDs with four of the TD's be an NFL record game winning scores)

RB Jerrick McKinnon, MIN

RB Terrance West, CLE

CB Aaron Colvin, JAX

RB Andre Williams, NYG

NT Justin Ellis, OAK

Used to give the Saints draft team the benefit of the doubt and think they were just aggressive; now, they're frustratingly willy nilly with their valuation of draft picks...

More needs to be done to revise the draft management...

halloween 65 · 02-11-2015, 06:20 AM

I wanted Matthews, bad!!

saintsfan1976 · 02-11-2015, 07:05 AM

Coulda, woulda, shoulda... Dangerous to play that game. Every team has it's druthers.

For me it goes like this:
A grade: Cooks. Game-changing ability. Sky-high character. Worth the move up.
B grade: Edebali. Solid player with upside. UDFA find is a ++.
B grade: Sunseri. Solid player. Excel at ST. Perfect "role player" on D.
C grade: Powell. Potential. Not sold on it yet though.
F grade: Fortt - total whiff. Rooks - total whiff.

And the "Taco Bell Grade E Meat Award" goes to... The SJB pick.

Even Kanye West would agree on that one!

jeanpierre · 02-11-2015, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Coulda, woulda, shoulda... Dangerous to play that game. Every team has it's druthers.

For me it goes like this:
A grade: Cooks. Game-changing ability. Sky-high character. Worth the move up.
B grade: Edebali. Solid player with upside. UDFA find is a ++.
B grade: Sunseri. Solid player. Excel at ST. Perfect "role player" on D.
C grade: Powell. Potential. Not sold on it yet though.
F grade: Fortt - total whiff. Rooks - total whiff.

And the "Taco Bell Grade E Meat Award" goes to... The SJB pick.

Even Kanye West would agree on that one!

But when there is a history, pattern and a body of work to review...

It is more than fair to examine, critique...

We have a history of over-reaching and with the exception of Jimmy Graham, and even then he was only taken a few spots from where he was ranked, we tend to reach on way too many picks...

saintsfan1976 · 02-11-2015, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

But when there is a history, pattern and a body of work to review...

It is more than fair to examine, critique...

We have a history of over-reaching and with the exception of Jimmy Graham, and even then he was only taken a few spots from where he was ranked, we tend to reach on way too many picks...

More or less than other teams? Or coaches? Or talent evaluators?

More goes into that than just "The Saints".

nola_swammi · 02-12-2015, 12:00 AM

Some people on here have mamma's goggle on to believe this draft is better than F. Seriously, if we could trade our entire draft for any other teams draft I would do it in a heartbeat. This draft was reminiscent to the draft when they traded the entire draft for Ricky Williams. Who said history don't repeat itself! Hopefully, Baptiste can get on the field this season to rewrite this draft to at least a "D"

saintsfan1976 · 02-12-2015, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

Some people on here have mamma's goggle on to believe this draft is better than F. Seriously, if we could trade our entire draft for any other teams draft I would do it in a heartbeat. This draft was reminiscent to the draft when they traded the entire draft for Ricky Williams. Who said history don't repeat itself! Hopefully, Baptiste can get on the field this season to rewrite this draft to at least a "D"

Draft grades should be reserved for 3 years. Typical development/impact curve for new players.

The fact that Fortt and Rooks didn't even make the team is bad. That our 2nd round pick was kept hidden from sight is worse.

Was it the talent scouts? Coaches? Players? We'll find out.

And WTF is mamma's google???

Danno · 02-12-2015, 06:49 PM

I think F is putting it gently.

I'm glad we shook up the scouting department because it was deserved.

02-10-2015, 05:24 PM	#1
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	2014 NFL Draft Grade A Day \| New Orleans Saints 2014 NFL Draft Grade A Day \| New Orleans Saints Round 1 - Brandin Cooks WR, Oregon St. Analysis - Cooks rookie season was cut short by injury but he still made quite the splash.He caught 53 passes in 10 games and scored 4 total touchdowns. He proved to be the electric playmaker the Saints were hoping for. Score – 4/5 Round 2 - Stanley Jean Baptise CB, NebraskaAnalysis – Jean Baptise was a bust in year one. He appeared in 4 games but disappeared on the stat sheet. Score – 0/4 Round 4- Khairi Fortt LB, California Analysis – Khairi Fortted in his time with the Saints. Now belongs to the Jags. Score - 0/2 Round 5 - Vinnie Sunseri S, Alabama Analysis - Sunseri played in 9 games making 5 tackles. I’ve seen worse. Score – 0/1 Round 5 - Ronald Powell OLB, Florida Analysis – Powell played in 14 games but had just a couple of tackles. Score – 0/1 Round 6 - Tavon Rooks OT, Kansas St. Analysis – Rooks just didn’t get on the field. Score – 0/0 Undrafted - Kasim Edebali OLB, Boston College Analysis - Finally the Saints find some production and it comes via an undrafted guy. Edebali played in every single game making 22 tackles, 2 sacks, and forcing a fumble. Well done. Score – 1/0 NEW ORLEANS SAINTS 2014 NFL DRAFT GRADE FINAL SCORE & Grade 5/11\| 45% \| F 2014 NFL Draft Grade A Day \| New Orleans Saints - DraftSeason
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02-10-2015, 06:24 PM	#2
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Grade A Day \| New Orleans Saints I like Cooks but a 1st and 3rd still seems really high, he has the speed to make a difference Baptiste- seen nothing- to high for a 2nd rounder not seeing any action last season Sunseri- I think is going to be a 5th round steal- good pick. Powell- I haven't ruled him out and think he could be solid depth if nothing else. Ediboli- he's growing. I hope he becomes a monster at OLB. I have hope. I also like our new KR( his name slips my mind) and Byrds new back-up at FS Warren. Actual draft-D- UDFA pick-ups-C+. Anytime we get 2 UDFA that continue to contribute that is a good thing. jeanpierre, K Major and VegasSaint9 like this.

02-11-2015, 04:24 AM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Grade A Day \| New Orleans Saints Cooks is a good player, great attitude... But two of Colston's eventual replacements, Kelvin Benjamin and Jordan Matthews could have been selected had we sat tight and we still would have had our third round pick for... A couple of players we could have selected with that pick... WR John Brown, AZ (the selection the traded pick was used for had 48 rec, 696 yds, 5 TDs with four of the TD's be an NFL record game winning scores) RB Jerrick McKinnon, MIN RB Terrance West, CLE CB Aaron Colvin, JAX RB Andre Williams, NYG NT Justin Ellis, OAK Used to give the Saints draft team the benefit of the doubt and think they were just aggressive; now, they're frustratingly willy nilly with their valuation of draft picks... More needs to be done to revise the draft management... halloween 65 likes this.
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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Grade A Day \| New Orleans Saints I wanted Matthews, bad!! jeanpierre likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Grade A Day \| New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Coulda, woulda, shoulda... Dangerous to play that game. Every team has it's druthers. For me it goes like this: A grade: Cooks. Game-changing ability. Sky-high character. Worth the move up. B grade: Edebali. Solid player with upside. UDFA find is a ++. B grade: Sunseri. Solid player. Excel at ST. Perfect "role player" on D. C grade: Powell. Potential. Not sold on it yet though. F grade: Fortt - total whiff. Rooks - total whiff. And the "Taco Bell Grade E Meat Award" goes to... The SJB pick. Even Kanye West would agree on that one! But when there is a history, pattern and a body of work to review... It is more than fair to examine, critique... We have a history of over-reaching and with the exception of Jimmy Graham, and even then he was only taken a few spots from where he was ranked, we tend to reach on way too many picks... Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.
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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,068 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Grade A Day \| New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre But when there is a history, pattern and a body of work to review... It is more than fair to examine, critique... We have a history of over-reaching and with the exception of Jimmy Graham, and even then he was only taken a few spots from where he was ranked, we tend to reach on way too many picks... More or less than other teams? Or coaches? Or talent evaluators? More goes into that than just "The Saints".

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nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Grade A Day \| New Orleans Saints Some people on here have mamma's goggle on to believe this draft is better than F. Seriously, if we could trade our entire draft for any other teams draft I would do it in a heartbeat. This draft was reminiscent to the draft when they traded the entire draft for Ricky Williams. Who said history don't repeat itself! Hopefully, Baptiste can get on the field this season to rewrite this draft to at least a "D" billyt81 likes this.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,068 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Grade A Day \| New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by nola_swammi Some people on here have mamma's goggle on to believe this draft is better than F. Seriously, if we could trade our entire draft for any other teams draft I would do it in a heartbeat. This draft was reminiscent to the draft when they traded the entire draft for Ricky Williams. Who said history don't repeat itself! Hopefully, Baptiste can get on the field this season to rewrite this draft to at least a "D" Draft grades should be reserved for 3 years. Typical development/impact curve for new players. The fact that Fortt and Rooks didn't even make the team is bad. That our 2nd round pick was kept hidden from sight is worse. Was it the talent scouts? Coaches? Players? We'll find out. And WTF is mamma's google??? Danno likes this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Grade A Day \| New Orleans Saints I think F is putting it gently. I'm glad we shook up the scouting department because it was deserved. AllSaints likes this.

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