No Renegotiation for Brees
 

Saints don't plan to renegotiate Drew Brees' contract : Fantasy News

I'll believe this when I don't see it

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I wouldn't be surprised if he just played out his contract and then the team made a decision whether or not to move on. He'll be 38 when this contract is up.

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If true it speaks volumes that they are preparing for life after Drew. Don't be surprised if you see them move on a qb in the future

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Not so sure we don't already have our future qb in house already...

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What Payton said was that they don't expect to save money by asking him to take a paycut. Tom Brady didn't take a paycut either when they renegotiated his contract.

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won't be surprised if Loomis tacks on a couple more years so Drew still gets every penny and his cap number goes down

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Not to mention Drew will get a nice little raise with that restructure as well.

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this would be very disappointing. i would consider trade offers if this is the case. cleveland and the jets are in need of a qb and a mentor. yes i am serious. his shelf life is short so strike while the striking is good.

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If the team was going to trade Brees you may aswell blow everything up and dump Evans,Hawthorne,Bunkley,Lofton,Grubbs,Colston and others this year too.

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1. Brees is not going to play at a high level when he is 40.
2. His window is about to close(1 to 2 years at the most)
3. Actually this would be a smart buisness move for the Saints
4. Brees still has good value(if traded)
5. I with JP(our qb. is already here)
6. Our O-line has 3 players over 30 and in regression and needs to get infused with youth.
7. I love Brees and wish he could play at an elite level forever but father time will catch up pretty soon and we will have another qb, under C. If we move on I can accept it but will never forget what he has done and remember the good times he has brought as long as I live.

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lets see blow it up? tank the year and stock pile picks to go after conner cook in 2016? ok

Lofton, Evens and Colston are to simple to redo to just cut them loss

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We aren't blowing up squat. We have more talent on this team than any in Saints history. We have a Superbowl QB with 2 or 3 more solid years left in the tank, and we're likely a top 3 NFC contender as is.

As long as Brees is still playing, we swing for the fences.

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Im with Danno
I understand getting value for Brees while you can but if you get rid of him you get rid of everyone and eat the cap hits at once.

With the ownership issues up in the air this team will be swinging for the going for broke now.

Im not sure that once Brees hangs up the cleats we are not looking for a new Coach and GM too

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I guarantee you Sean Payton is leaving when Drew retires/goes elsewhere.

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This is very likely.

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I am going to repeat something that I have stated many times ...

... any kind of restructuring of a contract for cap purposes will always, ALWAYS, ALWAYS favor the player.

Given the expected cap growth over the next two years (no less than $143M 2015 and likely well over $150M in 2016) there is no reason to restructure Brees' contract, especially at this time. Loomis isn't stupid. It makes no sense to do a restructure unless that was the last resort. That isn't the case this year. You don't do restructures just for the sake of doing them. We need to try to stop trying to read anything more into it than that. Brees isn't going anywhere anytime soon. I expect at least a new contract following the 2016 season with a chance for an extension following this coming season.

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This sounds like a reloading of talent year for the Saints to then have one last championship run before Drew retires, hope I'm wrong but I wouldn't be surprised its another 7-9, 8-8 season. Now if Payton somehow recovers his balls then all bets are off

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Maybe his ex wife got them in the pre-nup agreement.

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If they don't draft or pick up a qb for the future this year I am jumping on your bandwagon.

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That means all the naysayers are right they we won't contend and will have to watch Atlanta threaten to go to another sb. Its gonna hurt really hard on here if they get a ring.

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Why don't they just come out and say its a down year and they are planning to contend in 2016.

Well good luck with that, here's what we have in 2016
NFC West
@Arizona, @SF, Sea, StL
AFC West
@KC, @SD, Den, Oak
Likely home against Chicago(if we finish last this year)
Likely going to Washington

Not exactly easy.

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I see 3 tough games on that list (Sea, SF, Den if PM)

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KC is not tough? SD has given us problems. We beat them last two but the last one wasn't easy.

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Let me fix that for you...

I find it amusing to see posts where folks think that the team can make one sided decisions. Brees has no obligation to change his contract. The dead cap if Brees is cut, which is the only unilateral decision the team can make, is $33+ million. Also the team would be looking for their next QB.

Now Brees may decide to play ball. But he's not obligated to do so.

SFIAH

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The $27 million 3 year extension Brady signed in 2013 was in fact a pay cut.

SFIAH

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On a trade, the team is still responsible for the dead cap money from the signing bonus, immediately accelerated. Right now that's nearly $15 million.

I think paying $15 million and no QB would be a tough pill to swallow.
It would have to be a Herschel Walker type trade deal to make sense.


SFIAH

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The extension includes a $3 million signing bonus along with annual salaries of $7 million in 2015, $8 million in 2016 and $9 million in 2017, when Brady will turn 40, according to the source.
Brady's relatively modest deal frees up $15 million worth of salary-cap space for the Patriots in the 2013 and 2014 seasons, a league source told ESPN.


blah blah blah

The Patriots gained $8 million in salary-cap space this year and $7 million in cap room next season. Brady's cap numbers, which were scheduled to be $21.8 million in each of the next two offseasons, now will be $14.8 million this season and $13.8 million next season.

Tom Brady, New England Patriots agree to 3-year, $27 million extension, according to source - ESPN Boston

how did they do it?

In the new deal, Brady changed the $24 million “skill” guarantee in his contract to “injury” guarantee. By doing that, Brady will get the guaranteed money only if he is injured. The Patriots will now be able to release the Brady at any time, allowing him to become an unrestricted free agent, in which case there would likely be plenty of teams interested.
Report: Tom Brady restructures and gives the Patriots $24 million to spend_BINARY_2113333 - Sports - providencejournal.com - Providence, RI

simply changed the wording.

what is the difference between the saints and the pats a team the saints say they emulate? this is a huge difference. with the pats you take one for the team. if you think they are going to hog up cap space at the end of their careers or hold them hostage. think again. bye via free agency or traded, either way it is not going to happen. they are happy with comp picks for dumping greedy players that do not tow the company line.

saints do not and are not building this type of attitude among the team as a whole.

20 mill a year for an aging QB who by age itself has hit the ceiling and is cling for dear life to stay there. will always loss to gravity and start to fall back to the floor in which he came from. finger nails can only last so long. something always gives.

i love drew but if a team calls and offer serious picks in 2015 1st + additional and a 1st in 2016 i would have to think long and hard on not pulling a manning on him. target Conner in 2016

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I don't trust Griffin. He has a strong arm, but no accuracy on his deep ball.....

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With this front office, I'd rather they grab a QB in free agency over drafting one and waiting on him to develop

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How many good QBs hit FA these days?
Manning did but that was purly down to a circumstances that come around once in a blue moon(Aging QB with career in doubt,team has number one pick with one of the greatest QB prospects ever coming out that year)

QBs dont sit and develop these days,most start pretty quickly and Luck,Wilson have had good success really early. RG3 first year was impressive,Tannehill gets better each year. Id rather take a shot on any of them in the draft,especially when you consider what average QBs like Cutler,Flacco cost and eeven they do not make FA.

The biggest FA QBs in the past few years with salary (years/overall/guarantee)

Ryan Fitzpatrick 2/6.5/1.75
Alex Smith 3 /$27/9ml
Chase Daniel 3/10/4.8
Matt Flynn 3/19/0

Non of them will win you anything

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neither do Loomis or Payton. If they did, McCown wouldn't have a job, and RG would be on our actual roster, not the PS

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This video and many others from saints camp beg to differ

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He hasn't done that well in pre-season.

In camp he was throwing against one of the worst defenses in the league so it should surprise no one if he looked great.

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Really! why not

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He did pretty well in the preseason opener

16-23 for 180 yards and 2 TD's with a 107.0 passer rating

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It's preseason, so what. I've heard more than once that it's a different speed from college to preseason and it's even faster when it comes from preseason to regular season. I'd pump the breaks on this Griffin talk

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Yeah, but I'd like to try Foles, maybe Fitzpatrick or Flynn, maybe RGIII. Really, I just wish we'd drafted Murray out of Georgia in the 4th last year.

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I can show you videos of jamarcus Russell throwing the ball also. Doesn't mean he can do it in a game......
I've seen Griffin in the game and his deep ball lacks accuracy. Sure he can launch it, problem is that the other team catches it........

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Only one I hope they would consider is Foles, the rest are hot garbage

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Yep, Foles is of a similar pedigree to Brees. It makes sense :D