Payton wants to release Galette?

MarchingOn · 03-02-2015, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Gotta tell ya, Walker was the only guy I saw successfully with some consistency Bull-Rush an offensive lineman this past season...think you're short-changing him...

Edebali has a better motor, heart, effort than Galette and with more reps Kasim passes him on the depth chart if the front office wouldn't have to explain Galette's contract...

Damn it, we really missed Foster this season; his role reminds me of a Justin Tuck-type (Tuck's rookie season) that was a great change of pace/rotational pass rusher...

Can't agree to rank Byrd our best defender when he can't even play thirteen games or finish the season/postseason; Buffalo fans warned us...

Jordan just disappeared way too many times; he just didn't show enough like he did in the away game at Carolina or at Pittsburgh; he could be our best, but something wasn't right...

Pound for pound, my money is that Lewis is our best defender....

Nice to see opinion rankings. I vote for

1) Lewis
2) Jordan
3) Byrd
4) Hicks
5) Foster
6) Vaccaro
7) Walker
8) Gallette

I consider Bunkley and Hawthorne gone and wish Lofton was.

jeanpierre · 03-03-2015, 06:42 AM

I think Lofton, supported in a 3-4 with another inside linebacker and healthy, good nose tackle play will be fine, overpaid, but he'll be fine...

We can't change it all in one draft, free agency period, but the approach seems to contradict itself, like there's two directions...

lee909 · 03-03-2015, 07:00 AM

I agree about Lofton. He is limited in coverage but if he had a proper NT in front and a competent parter next too him he wouldn't need to try and plug so many holes against the run and could be what he is,a tackle machine. Put him next to Sean Lee,Karlos Dansby,Kiko Alonso or Navorro Bowman and he would look a really good player. Put a true NT in front aswell and he is going to the probowl

RaginCajun83 · 03-03-2015, 08:31 AM

Agree on how to use Lofton but teams would find a way to make him cover a TE or WR and there's your mismatch that they can exploit

K Major · 03-03-2015, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

Agree on how to use Lofton but teams would find a way to make him cover a TE or WR and there's your mismatch that they can exploit

RC83,
You bring up a great point. I remember in another post you mentioned 40 times & how in some cases they are useless. Well Curtis Lofton best 40 time at the combine was a 4.79 & 2.73 20 cone drill. This is considered borderline slow for a LB & may be the direct result of why he can't keep up with TE's, speedy RB or WR's

.

In this respect, those combine times & cone drills mean everything for a linebacker.

blackangold · 03-03-2015, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

RC83,
You bring up a great point. I remember in another post you mentioned 40 times & how in some cases they are useless. Well Curtis Lofton best 40 time at the combine was a 4.79 & 2.73 20 cone drill. This is considered borderline slow for a LB & may be the direct result of why he can't keep up with TE's, speedy RB or WR's .

In this respect, those combine times & cone drills mean everything for a linebacker.

Which is why I am selling the Perryman pick now. He is basically a younger version of Lofton, but with the slow 40 times there is no way he is covering NFL talent. We need more speed at ILB.

jeanpierre · 03-03-2015, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Which is why I am selling the Perryman pick now. He is basically a younger version of Lofton, but with the slow 40 times there is no way he is covering NFL talent. We need more speed at ILB.

Wait, Perryman posted a 4.78 in the 40 at the Indianapolis Pajama Party...

I'd rather draft Stephone Anthony now over Perryman based on the combine numbers...

Then again, I'd rather see these guys do the drills in pads too...

RaginCajun83 · 03-03-2015, 05:20 PM

Don't let the combine numbers fool you, put in the tape and then tell me who's better?

jeanpierre · 03-03-2015, 06:16 PM

I'm in the Jim Finks camp, draft the bigger guy..

K Major · 03-03-2015, 06:34 PM

I've pulled back the reigns on TCU's Paul Dawson as well. His numbers were a bit disappointing (4.95, 4.96). For some reason I thought he was faster and I've seen him up close and in person at a few games last season.

03-02-2015, 11:15 PM	#41
MarchingOn 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 387 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Payton wants to release Galette? Originally Posted by jeanpierre Gotta tell ya, Walker was the only guy I saw successfully with some consistency Bull-Rush an offensive lineman this past season...think you're short-changing him... Edebali has a better motor, heart, effort than Galette and with more reps Kasim passes him on the depth chart if the front office wouldn't have to explain Galette's contract... Damn it, we really missed Foster this season; his role reminds me of a Justin Tuck-type (Tuck's rookie season) that was a great change of pace/rotational pass rusher... Can't agree to rank Byrd our best defender when he can't even play thirteen games or finish the season/postseason; Buffalo fans warned us... Jordan just disappeared way too many times; he just didn't show enough like he did in the away game at Carolina or at Pittsburgh; he could be our best, but something wasn't right... Pound for pound, my money is that Lewis is our best defender.... Nice to see opinion rankings. I vote for 1) Lewis 2) Jordan 3) Byrd 4) Hicks 5) Foster 6) Vaccaro 7) Walker 8) Gallette I consider Bunkley and Hawthorne gone and wish Lofton was.

03-03-2015, 06:42 AM	#42
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Payton wants to release Galette? I think Lofton, supported in a 3-4 with another inside linebacker and healthy, good nose tackle play will be fine, overpaid, but he'll be fine... We can't change it all in one draft, free agency period, but the approach seems to contradict itself, like there's two directions...

03-03-2015, 07:00 AM	#43
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,793 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Payton wants to release Galette? I agree about Lofton. He is limited in coverage but if he had a proper NT in front and a competent parter next too him he wouldn't need to try and plug so many holes against the run and could be what he is,a tackle machine. Put him next to Sean Lee,Karlos Dansby,Kiko Alonso or Navorro Bowman and he would look a really good player. Put a true NT in front aswell and he is going to the probowl

03-03-2015, 08:31 AM	#44
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Payton wants to release Galette? Agree on how to use Lofton but teams would find a way to make him cover a TE or WR and there's your mismatch that they can exploit

03-03-2015, 10:13 AM	#45
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,588 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Payton wants to release Galette? Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 Agree on how to use Lofton but teams would find a way to make him cover a TE or WR and there's your mismatch that they can exploit RC83, You bring up a great point. I remember in another post you mentioned 40 times & how in some cases they are useless. Well Curtis Lofton best 40 time at the combine was a 4.79 & 2.73 20 cone drill. This is considered borderline slow for a LB & may be the direct result of why he can't keep up with TE's, speedy RB or WR's . In this respect, those combine times & cone drills mean everything for a linebacker. ChrisXVI and brees84 like this.

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03-03-2015, 11:26 AM	#46
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Payton wants to release Galette? Originally Posted by K Major RC83, You bring up a great point. I remember in another post you mentioned 40 times & how in some cases they are useless. Well Curtis Lofton best 40 time at the combine was a 4.79 & 2.73 20 cone drill. This is considered borderline slow for a LB & may be the direct result of why he can't keep up with TE's, speedy RB or WR's . In this respect, those combine times & cone drills mean everything for a linebacker. Which is why I am selling the Perryman pick now. He is basically a younger version of Lofton, but with the slow 40 times there is no way he is covering NFL talent. We need more speed at ILB. ChrisXVI likes this.

03-03-2015, 05:10 PM	#47
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Payton wants to release Galette? Originally Posted by blackangold Which is why I am selling the Perryman pick now. He is basically a younger version of Lofton, but with the slow 40 times there is no way he is covering NFL talent. We need more speed at ILB. Wait, Perryman posted a 4.78 in the 40 at the Indianapolis Pajama Party... I'd rather draft Stephone Anthony now over Perryman based on the combine numbers... Then again, I'd rather see these guys do the drills in pads too...

03-03-2015, 05:20 PM	#48
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Payton wants to release Galette? Don't let the combine numbers fool you, put in the tape and then tell me who's better?

03-03-2015, 06:16 PM	#49
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Payton wants to release Galette? I'm in the Jim Finks camp, draft the bigger guy.. Boutte likes this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,588 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Payton wants to release Galette? I've pulled back the reigns on TCU's Paul Dawson as well. His numbers were a bit disappointing (4.95, 4.96). For some reason I thought he was faster and I've seen him up close and in person at a few games last season.

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