Seer1

Personally, I think SJB is even better than.... ummm.... Let me get back to you on that.

jeanpierre

Well, we still have a training camp to geaux through...

But, yeah, looking like we found a solid third corner in Del Breaux!

Take our time and develop the two rookies in Williams and Swann...

Maybe Dixon can make a case for a sixth cornerback as he deserves...

And it isn't a full hate-on for SJB as he's just a kid wanting to be in the NFL...

In somuch as the colossal blunder of his assessment and second rd selection...

But he better realize that sh*t is real now and he better get it in gear...

It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

jeanpierre

SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2015

OFFENSE

QB (3) Drew Brees, Luke McCown, Ryan Griffin, Garrett Grayson (R3, #75)

RB (4) Mark Ingram, C.J. Spiller, Khiry Robinson, Tim Hightower (FA), Marcus Murphy (R7, #230), Edwin Baker (FA)

FB (1) Austin Johnson, Erik Lorig

WR (3) Marques Colston, Brandon Coleman, Kyle Prater (URFA), Joe Morgan, Josh Morgan (FA), Lance Lewis (FA)

LT (2) Terron Armstead, Bryce Harris, Sean Hickey (URFA)

LG (1) Tim Lelito, Senio Kelemete

C (1) Max Unger (via Trade), Michael Brewster (FA), Mike Golic (FA)

RG (2) Jahri Evans, Mike McGlynn (FA), Cyril Lemon (URFA)

RT (2) Zach Strief, Andrus Peat (R1, #13), Nick Becton, Antonio Johnson (URFA)

TE (3) Benjamin Watson, Josh Hill, Jack Tabb (URFA), Orson Charles

WR (3) Brandin Cooks, Seantavius Jones, Nick Toon, Jalen Saunders, R.J. Harris (URFA), Willie Snead (URFA)


DEFENSE

DE (2) Cameron Jordan, Glenn Foster, Kaleb Eulls (URFA), Tavaris Barnes (URFA)

NT (3) Brodrick Bunkley, John Jenkins, Ashaad Mabry (URFA), Lawrence Virgil

DE (2) Akiem Hicks, Kevin Williams (FA), Tyeler Davison (R5, #154), Bobby Richardson (URFA)

LLB (2) Junior Galette, Hau'oli Kikaha (R2, #44), Kasim Edebali, Davis Tull (R5, #148)

WLB (2) Dannell Ellerbe (via Trade), Ramon Humber, Henry Coley (URFA)

MLB (2) Stephone Anthony (R1, #31), David Hawthorne, Jerry Franklin (FA)

SLB (2) Anthony Spencer (FA), Parys Haralson, Ronald Powell, Markus Pierce-Brewster (URFA)

CB (2) Brandon Browner (FA), Delvin Breaux (FA), Kyle Wilson (FA), Terrence Frederick, A.J. Davis

FS (3) Jairus Byrd, Rafael Bush, Pierre Warren, Kenny Phillips (FA)

SS (2) Kenny Vaccaro, Vinnie Sunseri, Jamarca Sanford

CB (3) Keenan Lewis, P.J. Williams (R3, #78), Damian Swann (R5, #167), Brian Dixon, Stanley Jean-Baptiste


KICKING

K (1) Dustin Hopkins (URFA), Zach Hocker (URFA)

P (1) Thomas Morstead

LS (1) Justin Drescher

KR Jalen Saunders, Brandin Cooks, C.J. Spiller, Marcus Murphy (R7, #230)

PR Jalen Saunders, Brandin Cooks, C.J. Spiller, Marcus Murphy (R7, #230)

H Thomas Morstead

KO Thomas Morstead

*New Saints

Reserve/Injured

WR Andy Tanner

WR Malcome Kennedy

It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

saintsfan1976

Right now or by the end of camp?

I'm with Hagan on this theory of not admitting a draft mistake and keeping him. And I'm willing to throw 2014 out the window.

And what did you find "impressive" about him? The fact that he was close to the receiver while his head was always turned the wrong direction?

jeanpierre

Dixon? Sure he was an undrafted rookie that got burned, and he's got some technique issues to refine...

Refine, not learn. SJB still doesn't appear to know the position and he's got training camp to learn CB?!?

Don't dispute SJB will have a "default" advantage as a Round 2 pick with great reluctance to cut ties and issue a mea culpa...

Look, we'll keep five (5) corners, max; crunch the numbers, considering past health issues at safety, we keep five (5) corners...

Think all will agree that as of right now, Lewis, Browner and now, Breaux look like our top three corners...

Barring anymore OTF BS, remaining candidate pool includes PJ Williams, Dixon, Jean-Baptiste, Swann (R), Frederick and Davis...

P J Williams is the probably odds-on favorite rookie we keep, so that leaves one (1) more spot...

And it'll come down to Dixon, Jean-Baptiste or the other rookie Swann...

Now Swann could be a wild card as he can also play some safety; Byrd/Bush and Vaccaro/Sunseri; so Swann could be up against Warren...

But Warren is also the only guy that has shown a propensity to intercept the ball, so...

So because of Swann's flexibility, which could be enhanced with special teams; he's likely your guy...

And if Warren gets pushed out, that leaves Dixon and SJB...

And we have Dennis Allen now to help make that decision...

It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

ChrisXVI

I think it's time to ditch looking at our roster as a base 3-4 defense. Our base defense is a 4-2-5. Our starters right now would look like this:

LDE: Cameron Jordan
DT: Broderick Bunkley
DT: Kevin Williams
RDE: Anthony Spencer

SLB: Stephone Anthony
WLB: Dannell Ellerbe

LCB: Keenan Lewis
NCB: Delvin Breaux
RCB: Brandon Browner

FS: Jairus Byrd
SS: Kenny Vaccaro

jeanpierre

With Galette in the lineup, yes, I'd agree with that assessment...

But Spencer is more of a 34 OLB than Galette...

In these past OTAs, Spencer was playing ahead of Galette in 1st and 2nd downs...

Based on the personnel drafted, I'd say we're finally moving to more of a 34 base...

And in the nickel, we've played a third safety, Raphael Bush, more than a third corner...

We're playing more nickel because we're seeing more pass plays and we haven't had the pass rushers that we'll have going into this season...

Now the roster is starting to have the personnel to support a true 3-4 base...

And Hicks probably still will be starting over KW...

It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

jeanpierre

Saints training camp preview: Five players on the roster bubble

NICK UNDERHILL
July 18, 2015

The New Orleans Saints spent the offseason retooling their roster and finding ways to create better competition across the board.

The idea behind the process was to make players feel uncomfortable and create an atmosphere where players are fighting for every opportunity, snap or job.

While this approach isn’t unique to this season, the level of competition at some spots is better than it might have been in previous years. Several key spots will see players battling for jobs at the top of the roster, while a handful of other guys will be fighting at the other end to stay on the team.

We’ll count down some of the other aspects to watch for during training camp over the next week, but today we start with a batch of players who will head to West Virginia on the roster bubble:

WR Josh Morgan...

FB Austin Johnson...

QB Ryan Griffin...

KR Jalen Saunders...

CBs Brian Dixon and Terrence Frederick...

Source: Saints training camp preview: Five players on the roster bubble | Latest Sports | The Advocate — Baton Rouge, Louisiana

Don't understand Austin Johnson being on this list; thought he's outplayed Lorig, has a friendlier cap number and is a better special teams contributor having also played linebacker...

It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

jeanpierre

Predicting the New Orleans Saints 53-man roster

jeanpierre

SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2015 [PREDICTION]

OFFENSE

QB (3) Drew Brees, Ryan Griffin, Garrett Grayson (R3, #75)

RB (4) Mark Ingram, C.J. Spiller, Khiry Robinson, Marcus Murphy (R7, #230)

FB (2) Austin Johnson, Erik Lorig

WR (3) Marques Colston, Nick Toon, Brandon Coleman

LT (2) Terron Armstead, Bryce Harris

LG (1) Tim Lelito

C (1) Max Unger (via Trade)

RG (2) Jahri Evans, Mike McGlynn (FA)

RT (2) Zach Strief, Andrus Peat (R1, #13), Nick Becton, Antonio Johnson (URFA)

TE (2) Benjamin Watson, Josh Hill

WR (3) Brandin Cooks, Seantavius Jones, Jalen Saunders

DEFENSE

DE (2) Cameron Jordan, Kaleb Eulls (URFA)

NT (2) Brodrick Bunkley, John Jenkins

DE (3) Akiem Hicks, Kevin Williams (FA), Tyeler Davison (R5, #154)

LLB (2) Hau'oli Kikaha (R2, #44), Kasim Edebali

WLB (2) Dannell Ellerbe (via Trade), Ramon Humber

MLB (2) Stephone Anthony (R1, #31), David Hawthorne

SLB (2) Anthony Spencer (FA), Parys Haralson

CB (2) Brandon Browner (FA), Delvin Breaux (FA)

FS (3) Jairus Byrd, Rafael Bush, Pierre Warren

SS (2) Kenny Vaccaro, Vinnie Sunseri

CB (3) Keenan Lewis, P.J. Williams (R3, #78), Brian Dixon


KICKING

K (1) Dustin Hopkins (URFA)

P (1) Thomas Morstead

LS (1) Justin Drescher

KR C.J. Spiller, Marcus Murphy (R7, #230)

PR Jalen Saunders, Marcus Murphy (R7, #230)

H Thomas Morstead

KO Thomas Morstead

Practice Squad

WR Kyle Prater (URFA)
OL Sean Hickey (URFA)
TE Jack Tabb (URFA)
DE Tavaris Barnes (URFA)
DB Damian Swann (R5, #167)
LB Henry Coley (URFA)


Candidate for "RedShirt"

LB Davis Tull (R5, #148)




*New Saints

Reserve/Injured

WR Andy Tanner

WR Malcome Kennedy

It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...