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08-21-2015, 07:50 AM | #221 |
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Re: 2015 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
JP'S FLUID TRAINING CAMP PROJECTED SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2015
OFFENSE QB (3) Drew Brees, Ryan Griffin, Garrett Grayson (R3, #75) RB (4) [B]Mark Ingram[/B, Khiry Robinson], C.J. Spiller (FA), Marcus Murphy (R7, #230) FB (1) Austin Johnson WR (3) Marques Colston, Brandon Coleman, Nick Toon LT (2) Terron Armstead LG (1) Tim Lelito C (2) Max Unger (via Trade), Senio Kelemete RG (2) Jahri Evans, Mike McGlynn (FA) RT (1) Zach Strief, Andrus Peat (R1, #13) TE (3) Benjamin Watson, Josh Hill, Orson Charles WR (3) Brandin Cooks, Willie Snead (FA), Seantavius Jones DEFENSE DE (2) Akiem Hicks, Bobby Richardson (URFA) NT (2) John Jenkins, Tyeler Davison (R5, #154) DT (2) Kevin Williams (FA), Kaleb Eulls (URFA) LEO (2) Cameron Jordan, Anthony Spencer (FA) WILL (2) Dannell Ellerbe (via Trade), Henry Coley (URFA) MIKE (2) Stephone Anthony (R1, #31), David Hawthorne SAM (3) Hau'oli Kikaha (R2, #44), Parys Haralson, Davis Tull (R5, #148) CB (3) Brandon Browner (FA), Delvin Breaux (FA), Damian Swann (R5, #167) FS (2) Jairus Byrd, Rafael Bush SS (2) Kenny Vaccaro, Vinnie Sunseri CB (3) Keenan Lewis, Stanley Jean-Baptiste, P.J. Williams (R3, #78) KICKING K (1) Dustin Hopkins (URFA) P (1) Thomas Morstead LS (1) Justin Drescher KR C.J. Spiller (FA), Marcus Murphy (R7, #230) PR C.J. Spiller (FA), Marcus Murphy (R7, #230) H Thomas Morstead KO Thomas Morstead New Saints Acquired Veterans New Saints Rookies Injured or Physically Unable to Perform Non-Football Injury (Prior Injury) Injured Reserve WR Andy Tanner WR Malcome Kennedy OL Mike Brewster *Notes: Injuries, Injuries; oh well, next man up!!! Depending on RG Jahri Evans' performance vs the Pats No. 1's, Evan Mathis may need a call... Last year was mocking Brandon Coleman as a fourth, fifth round picks, no matter how, he's starting to shine... If Nick Toon's last name is working against him with the Saints, could you imagine as a Jet?!? Seantavius Jones seems to be losing in his grip on what was once a confident roster spot... Orson Charles will make this roster because of one rare, elusive quality - durability... With a baseline in place, we should see how much the Rookie Linebackers will have improved... May be our best class of UDRFA with Tyeler Davison, Bobby Richardson and Kaleb Eulls... Don't see Parys Haralson, 6-0 255, beating Anthony Spencer, 6-3 265, at DE?!? If Ronald Powell and Ramon Humber don't get out of the training room real soon, well... Speaking of the trainer's room, it'll be a task for the defensive backs to gel by Week 1?!? Could Steve Sidwell's defense shutdown Sean Payton's offense?!? Wonder if the two have ever met?!? |
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08-21-2015, 09:12 AM | #222 |
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Re: 2015 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
QB - Brees, McNown, Grayson
RB - Ingram, Robinson, Spiller, Murphy FB - Johnson, Lorig WR - Colston, Cooks, Coleman, Joe Morgan, Snead TE - Watson, Hill OT - Strief, Armstead, Peat OG - Evans, Lelito, Kelemete, McGlynn C - Unger (24) I like Griffin better but Payton will go with the vet and let Griffin have a shot at finding a roster elsewhere. Murphy wins the 4th RB on his return skills which are legit. I only kept 5 WR's because I can't justify Toon or Jones being on an NFL roster. I kept 2 FB's and 2 TE's because Charles is the leading candidate for the 3rd TE spot and he is going to be suspended. When/if he comes back or the Saints find someone else, that will change. Hightower can be on an NFL roster. DE - Jordan, Hicks, Spencer, Richardson DT - Jenkins, Williams, Davison, Eulls OLB - Kikaha, Ellerbe, Edebali, Haralson ILB - Anthony, Humber, Hawthorne CB - Lewis, Browner, Breaux, SJB, Swann, Williams S- Byrd, Vaccaro, Bush, Sunseri, Warren (26) K - Hopkins P - Morstead LS - Drescher The defensive injuries and talented young guys could change the look at a few spots. Haralson most likely will make it over a guy like Eulls or Tull. Tull will be given his shot to shine now that he's healthy. Eulls will make it to the practice squad and LB Tull and CB Williams could be given a redshirt on IR. I REALLY like Coley and he still has an outside shot if he continues to shine and makes a play or two on special teams. I also like Dixon's ability, effort, and special teams skills. He could be a good CB if he learns control and gets more polished. Phillips can be on an NFL roster and will be picked up. |
08-23-2015, 11:04 PM | #224 |
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Re: 2015 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
Well, the ones, that were healthy, played much better; updates accordingly...
A VERY FLUID TRAINING CAMP PROJECTED SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2015 OFFENSE QB (3) Drew Brees, Luke McCown, Garrett Grayson (R3, #75) RB (4) Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson, C.J. Spiller (FA), Marcus Murphy (R7, #230) FB (1) Austin Johnson WR (3) Marques Colston, Brandon Coleman, Nick Toon LT (1) Terron Armstead LG (1) Tim Lelito C (2) Max Unger (via Trade), Senio Kelemete RG (2) Jahri Evans, Mike McGlynn (FA) RT (2) Zach Strief, Andrus Peat (R1, #13) TE (3) Benjamin Watson, Josh Hill, Orson Charles WR (3) Brandin Cooks, Willie Snead (FA), Josh Morgan DEFENSE DE (2) Akiem Hicks, Bobby Richardson (URFA) NT (2) John Jenkins, Ashaad Mabry (URFA) DT (2) Kevin Williams (FA), Tyeler Davison (R5, #154) LEO (2) Cameron Jordan, Kaleb Eulls (URFA) WILL (2) Dannell Ellerbe (via Trade), Ramon Humber MIKE (2) Stephone Anthony (R1, #31), David Hawthorne SAM (3) Hau'oli Kikaha (R2, #44), Kasim Edebali, Davis Tull (R5, #148) CB (3) Brandon Browner (FA), Delvin Breaux (FA), Damian Swann (R5, #167) FS (3) Jairus Byrd, Rafael Bush, Kenny Phillips SS (2) Kenny Vaccaro, Vinnie Sunseri CB (2) Keenan Lewis, Stanley Jean-Baptiste KICKING K (1) Dustin Hopkins (URFA) P (1) Thomas Morstead LS (1) Justin Drescher KR C.J. Spiller (FA), Marcus Murphy (R7, #230) PR C.J. Spiller (FA), Marcus Murphy (R7, #230) H Thomas Morstead KO Thomas Morstead New Saints Acquired Veterans New Saints Rookies Injured or Physically Unable to Perform Non-Football Injury (Prior Injury) Injured Reserve WR Andy Tanner WR Malcome Kennedy OL Mike Brewster *Notes: Injuries are really keeping us from seeing what we have on defense with the entire projected starting secondary out, plus Dannell Ellerbe; reserves look good last night... While the offense clicked with the ones, we still are plowing in the run game like we had expected with Unger's addition... Thought Kenny Phillips flashed enough that he gets a late roster spot, taken from one of the cornerbacks; not sold Byrd is going to be healthy and in shape for the start of the season... Like T Terron Armstead and C Max Unger to make the ProBowl, possibly All-Pro - they both look great! NT Ashaad Mabry and DT Kaleb Eulls both graded equally bad with PFF; Eulls was better in pass rush with Mabry better against the run... We have some really good talented depth at some positions (i.e. quarterback, safety) that we should have Jeff Ireland aggressively seek out trades rather than outright release these guys... |
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08-26-2015, 03:19 AM | #225 |
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Re: 2015 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
Two more weeks to see who's healthy and who's not...
Wow, the secondary really needs to toughen up... |
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08-27-2015, 02:17 AM | #226 |
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08-27-2015, 02:21 AM | #227 |
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Re: 2015 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
Tavaris Barnes, rookie teammates in final stretch of race for Saints' roster spot
By Evan Woodbery, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune on August 25, 2015 at 6:08 PM, updated August 25, 2015 at 6:16 PM Tavaris Barnes said there's a close bond between the group of well-regarded but undrafted rookie defensive linemen on the New Orleans Saints roster. That bond will be tested in the next two weeks as cuts start to thin the defensive line meeting room. One, possibly two of the undrafted rookies will make the cut. The others will have to hope for a practice-squad invitation. "All I'm worried about is what I can control, putting my best foot forward every day, working hard and grabbing the attention of the coaches," Barnes said Tuesday after the Saints' practice in Metairie. Barnes' stock seems to be rising. The rookie from Clemson was the first lineman off the bench in the first half of Saturday's preseason game, replacing defensive end Akiem Hicks in the second quarter. At least for one night, Barnes seemed to be ahead of Bobby Richardson, an undrafted rookie from Indiana who started in place of Hicks in the preseason opener. Outside of the four starters in the Saints base defense -- Hicks, Cam Jordan, Kevin Williams and John Jenkins -- only one player seems assured of a spot. That's Tyeler Davison, the Saints' fifth-round draft pick out of Fresno State. Davison has been replacing Williams and Jenkins in nickel situations, making him a de-facto starter. Beyond that "starting five," the Saints have plenty of options. * Expect one winner out of the three defensive end/linebacker hybrids: veterans Parys Haralson and Anthony Spencer and rookie Markus Pierce-Brewster. * The Saints will also probably keep one of their three versatile rookie ends: Barnes, Richardson and Mississippi State undrafted prospect Kaleb Eulls. * Will the Saints choose to keep a second true nose tackle behind Jenkins? If so, that's rookie Ashaad Mabry's best chance of winning a roster spot... Barnes, 23, hopes his versatility will help him win a spot. "I've played really the whole line, from D-tackle, D-end, strong-side, weakside," Barnes said of his time in New Orleans. "They've really got me everywhere..." Richardson and Eulls were both considered potential late-round or even mid-round options, and some analysts were surprised that they landed in the free-agent pool. The Saints were able to sign such a talented class of undrafted linemen partly because they offered a clear path to a 53-man roster spot. That's as true today as it was when the players signed in May, and now they're only days away from learning the winner, or winners... Source: Tavaris Barnes, rookie teammates in final stretch of race for Saints' roster spot | NOLA.com |
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08-27-2015, 07:12 PM | #228 |
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Re: 2015 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
Reviewed Film, PFF Grades et al...
STILL VERY FLUID TRAINING CAMP PROJECTED SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2015 OFFENSE QB (3) Drew Brees, Ryan Griffin, Garrett Grayson (R3, #75) RB (4) Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson, C.J. Spiller (FA), Marcus Murphy (R7, #230) FB (1) Austin Johnson WR (3) Marques Colston, Brandon Coleman, Nick Toon LT (2) Terron Armstead, Bryce Harris LG (2) Tim Lelito, Mike McGlynn (FA) C (1) Max Unger (via Trade) RG (1) Jahri Evans RT (2) Zach Strief, Andrus Peat (R1, #13) TE (3) Benjamin Watson, Josh Hill, Orson Charles WR (3) Brandin Cooks, Josh Morgan (FA), Willie Snead (FA) DEFENSE DE (2) Akiem Hicks, Bobby Richardson (URFA) NT (2) John Jenkins, Ashaad Mabry (URFA) DT (2) Kevin Williams (FA), Tyeler Davison (R5, #154) LEO (2) Cameron Jordan, Kasim Edebali WILL (2) Dannell Ellerbe (via Trade), Ramon Humber MIKE (2) Stephone Anthony (R1, #31), David Hawthorne SAM (2) Hau'oli Kikaha (R2, #44), Davis Tull (R5, #148) CB (3) Keenan Lewis, Damian Swann (R5, #167), P.J. Williams (R3, #78) SS (2) Kenny Vaccaro, Vinnie Sunseri FS (3) Jairus Byrd, Rafael Bush, Kenny Phillips (FA) CB (3) Brandon Browner (FA), Delvin Breaux (FA), Stanley Jean-Baptiste KICKING K (1) Dustin Hopkins (URFA) P (1) Thomas Morstead LS (1) Justin Drescher KR Marcus Murphy (R7, #230), C.J. Spiller (FA) PR Marcus Murphy (R7, #230), C.J. Spiller (FA) H Thomas Morstead KO Thomas Morstead New Saints Acquired Veterans New Saints Rookies Injured or Physically Unable to Perform Non-Football Injury (Prior Injury) Injured Reserve WR Andy Tanner WR Malcome Kennedy OL Mike Brewster *Notes: Some key veterans and draft picks have missed so much time that the leverage of their investment has withered away... While the offense clicked with the ones, we still are plowing in the run game like we had expected with Unger's addition... Rebirth of Kenny Phillips with Byrd's poor health for the start of the season, it's the right move to keep Phillips as insurance... Really Like T Terron Armstead and C Max Unger to make the ProBowl, possibly All-Pro - they both look great! This talk about Senio being G/C eligible makes his a roster spot is bullshinski; Lelito is a proven G/C... And McGlynn has graded well at Guard with the twos, threes so he'll get the nod... Harris experience will get him the nod for an additional tackle... After rookies Tyeler Davison and Bobby Richardson, the rookie defensive linemen just haven't won a roster spot... With talented depth at quarterback, safety and cornerback, Jeff Ireland can aggressively seek trades rather than Loomis outright releasing same... P.J. Williams and Davis Tull are candidates for the IR (Intern/Redshirt) for their first year... |
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09-01-2015, 09:16 PM | #230 |
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Re: 2015 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
A roster that will be built by attrition?!?
PROJECTED SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2015 OFFENSE QB (3) Drew Brees, Ryan Griffin, Garrett Grayson (R3, #75) RB (4) Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson, C.J. Spiller (FA), Marcus Murphy (R7, #230) FB (1) Austin Johnson WR (3) Marques Colston, Brandon Coleman, Seantavius Jones LT (2) Terron Armstead, Bryce Harris LG (2) Tim Lelito, Mike McGlynn (FA) C (1) Max Unger (via Trade) RG (1) Jahri Evans RT (2) Zach Strief, Andrus Peat (R1, #13) TE (3) Benjamin Watson, Josh Hill, Orson Charles WR (3) Brandin Cooks, Willie Snead (FA), Josh Morgan (FA) DEFENSE DE (2) Akiem Hicks, Bobby Richardson (URFA) NT (2) John Jenkins, Ashaad Mabry (URFA) DT (2) Kevin Williams (FA), Tyeler Davison (R5, #154) LEO (2) Cameron Jordan, Tavaris Barnes (URFA) WILL (2) Dannell Ellerbe (via Trade), Ramon Humber MIKE (2) Stephone Anthony (R1, #31), David Hawthorne SAM (3) Hau'oli Kikaha (R2, #44), Kasim Edebali, Davis Tull (R5, #148) CB (2) Keenan Lewis, Damian Swann (R5, #167) SS (2) Kenny Vaccaro, Rafael Bush FS (3) Jairus Byrd, Kenny Phillips (FA), Pierre Warren CB (3) Brandon Browner (FA), Delvin Breaux (FA), Stanley Jean-Baptiste KICKING K (1) Dustin Hopkins (URFA) P (1) Thomas Morstead LS (1) Justin Drescher KR Marcus Murphy (R7, #230), C.J. Spiller (FA) PR Marcus Murphy (R7, #230), C.J. Spiller (FA) H Thomas Morstead KO Thomas Morstead New Saints Acquired Veterans New Saints Rookies Injured or Physically Unable to Perform Non-Football Injury (Prior Injury) Injured Reserve CB P.J. Williams (R3, #78) DE Anthony Spencer TE Kevin Brock TE Jack Tabb DL Lawrence Virgil NT Austin Brown OL Mike Brewster *Notes: Again, it looks like a roster built through attrition... Gotta consider trading McCown or Griffin for depth at inside linebacker... Kudos to Loomis for signing Kenny Phillips... |
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