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jeanpierre 03-07-2015 11:17 PM

PFT: Saints, Cardinals In Play For Sean Weatherspoon
 
Saints, Cardinals in play for Sean Weatherspoon | ProFootballTalk


Neeeeaaaauuuxxxxxx!!! Neaux more broken old Falcons...

WTF?!?

Please just let this be us driving up the price...

exile 03-07-2015 11:19 PM

Re: PFT: Saints, Cardinals In Play For Sean Weatherspoon
 
Have to disagree. He's a great talent but needs to stay healthy.

blackangold 03-07-2015 11:31 PM

Re: PFT: Saints, Cardinals In Play For Sean Weatherspoon
 
Would be odd having him here considering the words he had on social media for some of our players.

However, when healthy he is a top ILB that can hang in coverage. He could be a good pick-up for us but it needs to be at the right price because of the injury history.

K Major 03-07-2015 11:33 PM

Re: PFT: Saints, Cardinals In Play For Sean Weatherspoon
 
Good player.

lee909 03-08-2015 12:03 AM

Re: PFT: Saints, Cardinals In Play For Sean Weatherspoon
 
Surly he's going to be cheap considering injuries. I rate him highly but injuries are a massive concern.

rezburna 03-08-2015 12:52 AM

Saints Want Weatherspoon
 
Saints, Cardinals in play for Sean Weatherspoon | ProFootballTalk

lee909 03-08-2015 12:58 AM

Re: Saints Want Weatherspoon
 
I said on another thread i really rate Weatherspoon but his injury history is a massive red flag for me. Im not against it on a cheap prove it deal

rezburna 03-08-2015 01:06 AM

Re: Saints Want Weatherspoon
 
He's a freak athlete. He stands out when he's on the field and has great speed. I think we should go back to a 4-3 if we sign him. It puts Lofton back at his natural MLB spot. Weatherspoon can be the strong side backer while Haraylson and Hawthorne rotate on the weakside (or hopefully we upgrade there.) Moves Junior back to his natural DE spot, and makes Cam Jordan disposable because he's a 3-4 DE. But we'll see.

Marlboro Man 03-08-2015 01:12 AM

Re: Saints Want Weatherspoon
 
Players get hurt. It's part of the game. That being said, they don't all get hurt throughout their entire careers. Saying someone is injury prone is a misconception. Some players are not as lucky as others for different reasons. Freak accidents or playing so all out and reckless that they hurt themselves. It takes a player a few seasons to acclimate themselves to the NFL. They come in trying to impress and play too reckless and get hurt. Sometimes those players are the playmakers everyone is looking for but because they haven't matured yet, get hurt in their first couple years. Could be because they don't get enough rest because they're out partying with their new found riches, some get hurt because they don't eat the right things to help their bodies regenerate and heal. I just don't necessarily think someone is just predisposed to injury. I also don't think one player is more apt to get injured than another player. If Spoon was hurt earlier in his career then the odds would seem to be in his favor to not be injured for several years. I'd be in favor of giving Spoon a 2 year contract and see how it goes with if they're worried about it have an injury clause. The guy's obviously got playmaker talent. I'd say give him a shot.

lee909 03-08-2015 01:14 AM

Re: Saints Want Weatherspoon
 
I wouldnt be against the change back to a 4-3 though im not sure Galette is a great DE in that scheme, I did read somebody suggesting using Galette as both a LB and DE similar to how the Broncos use Von Miller(i know he is 10x the player).

Good bit here on the Broncos base defenses of a couple of years back
Denver D: Broncos Big Men and the front 7 - Mile High Report

This is the same way Dennis Allen played the Broncos as DC.

Dont think it gets done this year though

lee909 03-08-2015 01:29 AM

Re: Saints Want Weatherspoon
 
Dannell Ellerbe hitting the market too

dizzle88 03-08-2015 04:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 642988)
Dannell Ellerbe hitting the market too

I don't really rate Ellerbe, both he and Paul Kruger got rich off one decent performance in the Superbowl and have done literally nothing since.

Crusader 03-08-2015 05:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 642991)
I don't really rate Ellerbe, both he and Paul Kruger got rich off one decent performance in the Superbowl and have done literally nothing since.

Kruger had 53 tackles and 11 sacks this past season. I wouldn't call that nothing...

Crusader 03-08-2015 05:22 AM

Re: PFT: Saints, Cardinals In Play For Sean Weatherspoon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 642965)
Would be odd having him here considering the words he had on social media for some of our players.

Stuff like that happens and you get over it.

There has been a player on a team in our league here that him and med both has hated each other, getting into it on the field, social media etc. Now all of a sudden we play for the same team and we just had to make it a blank page and start over.

lee909 03-08-2015 05:27 AM

Re: PFT: Saints, Cardinals In Play For Sean Weatherspoon
 
Larry Holder mentioned that Mason Foster might be on the shortlist. Says the Saints liked him in the 2011 draft

Crusader 03-08-2015 05:37 AM

Re: PFT: Saints, Cardinals In Play For Sean Weatherspoon
 
This rumor has the Falcons fan all up in a rage so that's funny anyways.

dizzle88 03-08-2015 05:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 642995)
Kruger had 53 tackles and 11 sacks this past season. Iwouldn't call that nothing...

Fair point, didn't like 4 of those sacks come against us though? Lol.

dizzle88 03-08-2015 05:49 AM

Re: PFT: Saints, Cardinals In Play For Sean Weatherspoon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 642965)
Would be odd having him here considering the words he had on social media for some of our players.

However, when healthy he is a top ILB that can hang in coverage. He could be a good pick-up for us but it needs to be at the right price because of the injury history.

I bet if you asked Curtis Lofton in 2011 he absolutely hated us, as soon as a player feels like the team is disrespecting him it turns into a "how can I show them they are wrong" which leads to players signing with division rivals.

halloween 65 03-08-2015 05:54 AM

Re: PFT: Saints, Cardinals In Play For Sean Weatherspoon
 
I would still take Perryman in the draft. Nothing specacular just as solid as they come.

hagan714 03-08-2015 06:45 AM

Re: PFT: Saints, Cardinals In Play For Sean Weatherspoon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 642962)

Neeeeaaaauuuxxxxxx!!! Neaux more broken old Falcons...

WTF?!?

Please just let this be us driving up the price...

Quote:

Originally Posted by exile (Post 642963)
Have to disagree. He's a great talent but needs to stay healthy.

i have to agree and disagree. :p


love the talent. a whole season praying, hoping Ingram and Spoon do not end up in the tube together might be more than my heart can handle. well odds are Donte will be serving drinks.

hagan714 03-08-2015 06:47 AM

Re: PFT: Saints, Cardinals In Play For Sean Weatherspoon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 642999)
Larry Holder mentioned that Mason Foster might be on the shortlist. Says the Saints liked him in the 2011 draft

now your talking.

Foot Stomper 03-08-2015 07:54 AM

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has any great LB's (or any player) come back from an Achilles tendon tear? That's a tough injury.

hagan714 03-08-2015 08:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Foot Stomper (Post 643024)
has any great LB's (or any player) come back from an Achilles tendon tear? That's a tough injury.

that is why i like Mason Foster

look at his stats from 2013

Mason Foster - Tampa Bay Buccaneers - 2015 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com

now look at Weatherspoon

Sean Weatherspoon - Atlanta Falcons - 2015 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com

i would roll with Foster

dizzle88 03-08-2015 08:22 AM

Re: PFT: Saints, Cardinals In Play For Sean Weatherspoon
 
Isn't it funny that all these LB's we are supposedly interested in, we liked in the draft but didn't get any of them?

spkb25 03-08-2015 08:46 AM

Re: PFT: Saints, Cardinals In Play For Sean Weatherspoon
 
He's freaking good if healthy, and still young. I just worry because usually when a player starts down that many injuries there is no coming back. Heart is there, but body gives out.

The one person I have always regretted never seeing play for the Saints (cause he had moments of brilliance) was Cie Grant.

K Major 03-08-2015 09:03 AM

Re: PFT: Saints, Cardinals In Play For Sean Weatherspoon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 642999)
Larry Holder mentioned that Mason Foster might be on the shortlist. Says the Saints liked him in the 2011 draft

I remember him doing damage against us (INT). He is also a good player.

jeanpierre 03-08-2015 09:21 AM

Re: PFT: Saints, Cardinals In Play For Sean Weatherspoon
 
Mason Foster, much better, healthier, younger option...

Why LB Mason Foster is flying under radar in free agency | FOX Sports

rezburna 03-08-2015 11:17 AM

Re: PFT: Saints, Cardinals In Play For Sean Weatherspoon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 643027)
that is why i like Mason Foster

look at his stats from 2013

Mason Foster - Tampa Bay Buccaneers - 2015 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com

now look at Weatherspoon

Sean Weatherspoon - Atlanta Falcons - 2015 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com

i would roll with Foster

They don't play them same position. Foster is a MLB. Weatherspoon is an outside linebacker. You sign them both, because they're both major upgrades in athleticism and speed. Weatherspoon is really good y'all. Idk if y'all forgot because he's been hurt as of late.

Danno 03-08-2015 11:56 AM

Re: PFT: Saints, Cardinals In Play For Sean Weatherspoon
 
Sources claim Weatherspoon twisted an ankle reading this thread.

frydaddy 03-08-2015 12:45 PM

Re: PFT: Saints, Cardinals In Play For Sean Weatherspoon
 
Personally, I loved the dude coming out of college. Really wanted us to draft him, really pissed me off that the clowns got him first. I would not be opposed to it if we finally got him. Yes the injuries are worrisome, but even acl tears are not the career threatening things they once were. Huge strides have been made in just the last few years in how they repair and treat them. As for his twitter rant or whatever the hell it was, I agree with previous posters in that ours is one of the most heated rivalries in sports, so it's to be expected. Especially considering that the abomination that is social media makes it entirely too easy for people to get themselves into trouble.. If we can get him at a reasonable price, I'm sold.

SmashMouth 03-08-2015 02:18 PM

Re: PFT: Saints, Cardinals In Play For Sean Weatherspoon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 643085)
Sources claim Weatherspoon twisted an ankle reading this thread.

Was he trying to catch Ingram?

spkb25 03-08-2015 03:43 PM

Re: PFT: Saints, Cardinals In Play For Sean Weatherspoon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 643085)
Sources claim Weatherspoon twisted an ankle reading this thread.

on IR yet?

K Major 03-08-2015 11:54 PM

Re: PFT: Saints, Cardinals In Play For Sean Weatherspoon
 
When healthy, Witherspoon is a baller but do we really need another Victor Butler type player (past injury concerns) on the roster? He has played roughly 7 games in 2 years.

Mason Foster is someone I would carefully target.

jeanpierre 03-09-2015 12:15 AM

Re: PFT: Saints, Cardinals In Play For Sean Weatherspoon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 643266)
When healthy, Witherspoon is a baller but do we really need another Victor Butler type player (past injury concerns) on the roster? He has played roughly 7 games in 2 years.

Mason Foster is someone I would carefully target.

B-I-N-G-O :bng:

saintsfan1976 03-09-2015 12:37 AM

Re: PFT: Saints, Cardinals In Play For Sean Weatherspoon
 
Looks like Zona is getting him.

NFL Report: Cardinals prepared to offer Sean Weatherspoon two-year deal - ESPN

|Mitch| 03-09-2015 01:23 AM

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Quote:

the Cardinals are prepared to offer Atlanta linebacker Sean Weatherspoon a two-year contract worth between $3 million and $4 million per year.
3-4 million is too much for a player who has battled injuries coming off an ACL tear last year...

jeanpierre 03-09-2015 01:55 AM

Re: PFT: Saints, Cardinals In Play For Sean Weatherspoon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 643286)

We just need to drive up that price so we have less competition for the bargains that are sure to come...

Ashley 03-09-2015 03:58 AM

Re: PFT: Saints, Cardinals In Play For Sean Weatherspoon
 
I'm on the no bandwagon.

Foot Stomper 03-09-2015 06:38 AM

Re: PFT: Saints, Cardinals In Play For Sean Weatherspoon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 643288)
3-4 million is too much for a player who has battled injuries coming off an ACL tear last year...

ACL I would be ok with...pretty sure it was the dreaded Achilles tendon. That one is crippling.


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