New Orleans Saints Forums - blackandgold.com
Page 31 of 35 « First 21222324252627282930 31 32333435
Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page

New Orleans Saints Forums - blackandgold.com (https://blackandgold.com/community/)
-   Saints (https://blackandgold.com/saints/)
-   -   Breaking News: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks (https://blackandgold.com/saints/71362-saints-trade-graham-seahawks.html)

spkb25 03-11-2015 07:03 AM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 644188)
I often find myself wondering why people always want to justify any move the Saints make, but this actually isn't one of them.

I don't see this as anyone hating on Jimmy, either. People are just realizing that we have bigger needs and something major had to happen. All this restructuring crap we do every year gets us nowhere. Now we free up Graham's cap space, plus the player and draft pick we got in return.

A proven commodity and a 1st rounder is better than two first rounders, neither of which are proven. That's what makes this a good deal. The only thing I don't like is that he's with the Seahawks, but as critical as I've been of our front office in recent years, I honestly don't think they would have traded him to THAT team without exploring all other options first. The most suitable return just ended up being the hags.
This is a good post bro. It is exactly what it is. I love JG, and I don't like seeing him in that seachichen gear, but we need a team. We need a 2009 type offense, and we are not getting that without fixing the oline.

spkb25 03-11-2015 07:07 AM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 644189)
4 til 5 years! Do you really think Drew have 4 til 5 years? I think they could've got a higher or more draft picks for Jimmy. I think Jimmy was injured that's why he wasn't that dominant as the years before. I don't see why they're looking for a center when it's obvious Evans or Grubbs need to be replaced.


If they wanted to send a message to the team with this trade, it was carried out and time will tell if it was negative or positive. More likely they going to want their guarantee up front due to fact they seeing how Sproles, now. Graham being traded out
Dude our main issues were on the interior of the line and center was by far the most needed position. Evans was hurt all year, apparently so let's do a wait and see on him, and Grubbs may end up gone, don't know. I really would love to see that big ol boy from Iowa come here, oh my I salivate at the idea.

Jimmy was injured, but maybe it was a situation where we needed a proven center, and it was a get what we can for him while we can. I am sad to see him go, love the dude, but we have more needs and as someone said, if Unger plays close to his 2013 level and is healthy (he is only 28) that will go a longer way to helping this team than keeping JG. I agree, but I could be wrong.

spkb25 03-11-2015 07:08 AM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 644189)
4 til 5 years! Do you really think Drew have 4 til 5 years? I think they could've got a higher or more draft picks for Jimmy. I think Jimmy was injured that's why he wasn't that dominant as the years before. I don't see why they're looking for a center when it's obvious Evans or Grubbs need to be replaced.


If they wanted to send a message to the team with this trade, it was carried out and time will tell if it was negative or positive. More likely they going to want their guarantee up front due to fact they seeing how Sproles, now. Graham being traded out
Drew 4-5 years, yes if we have a line for him.

spkb25 03-11-2015 07:10 AM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 644200)
i really do not think people truly understand how good Unger really is. then that contract of his is really sweet. look for an extension in 2016

OL never get any respect

cap wise it cost us 2 mill because we had to eat jimmy's dead cap money. now 2016 the impact will be felt cap wise. 2016 cap issues just got better.

i do not think they are done yet either. draft day trade involving players is very possible.

washington trade up? jump ahead of the jets could cost us another pick or a player/ washington has a new coaching staff in place and one thing they like is a big OL.

next cap move OG plus picks to washington in a trade up?
OLINE is so important, so important. Great post, and Unger, from all I have read, is very good. Still young too. Good Post Hag

spkb25 03-11-2015 07:12 AM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 644204)
I look at it as we gave a 4th rd pick for him when the priority should've been guard
I disagree, priority was center, but yes we can use guard help too. Let's see what the rest of FA and draft bring

spkb25 03-11-2015 07:16 AM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 644231)
Fix the defense, the offense is sputtering cause they keep sacrificing it by drafting defensive players that don't pan out or trading players like Sproles now Graham whom were the 1 and 2 punch for 2013
Our offense is much closer than our defense to producing well, and really just an oline away, first piece that was highly needed...center.

Mick said this was to fix the D, s I'd expect some moves to come on that side too.

spkb25 03-11-2015 07:19 AM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 644237)
they groom him to play center now you move him to guard, how do the kid suppose to to excel if they changing him every year
We could be the Eagles who just let their best RB leave, their best wideout, and traded their QB for a QB who has had two acl injuries two years in a row for the Eagles 2nd, 4rth, and the rams 5th. LOL.

I like you defending your opinion amongst a group who disagrees, but thank god we're not them

hagan714 03-11-2015 07:26 AM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
defense is a mess and only got worse. they are not going to win us anything, bend do not break is the best we are going to get. offense is key.

as drew goes so do the saints. he can step up this year unlike the years past.

now we need a tall WR

hagan714 03-11-2015 07:27 AM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
good solid debate i have to admit

Tobias-Reiper 03-11-2015 07:42 AM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 644222)
Did we win a Super-Bowl with Graham and a bad center or without Graham and a good center? I forget... :confused:
I do recall winning the SB without Graham, with a good center, and a TE on one leg. I may be wrong, though...


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:39 AM.
Page 31 of 35 « First 21222324252627282930 31 32333435
Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page


Copyright 1997 - 2020 - BlackandGold.com