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burningmetal 03-11-2015 03:52 AM

Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 644204)
I look at it as we gave a 4th rd pick for him when the priority should've been guard

We HAVE guards. And now we have a center as well. A 4th round pick is a 4th round pick. We have two first rounders. I can't imagine what else you need here to be satisfied. I get it, Jimmy was popular here. I wish he could have stayed in a way as well. But let's take our fan glasses off and try to think about what's smart.

lee909 03-11-2015 03:55 AM

Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 644204)
I look at it as we gave a 4th rd pick for him when the priority should've been guard

We know Evans was playing with a bum wrists,im no big fan of Grubbs but both of them trying to do there job while covering for Goodwin cant have helped them. If they team thought Lelito was the man he would have had the job. Maybe they just see him as a backup for all the interior spots.
I really think that coach wanted a top center otherwise he would have kept DLP last year. He let him walk for peanuts to Chicago and then didnt get the player in the draft he was interested in.

Wait and see what the rest of FA ad the draft brings.
Maybe we ship a guard to the Bills as has been rumoured then take Scherf or Collins in the first or laken tomlinson,Jackson.Marpet in the draft and beef up the line. Who knows

burningmetal 03-11-2015 03:55 AM

Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 644207)
When you franchise a player you can use it as leverage in negotiating a trade. You don't necessarily need him to sign anything

Correct. And they got nothing for him then. Now that he's under contract, it made more sense for a team to trade for him and give up something for a guy they had some control over. If you trade for a guy with a franchise tag, you give up two 1st rounders and there is no guarantee he re-signs with you.

nola_swammi 03-11-2015 03:57 AM

Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 644208)
We HAVE guards. And now we have a center as well. A 4th round pick is a 4th round pick. We have two first rounders. I can't imagine what else you need here to be satisfied. I get it, Jimmy was popular here. I wish he could have stayed in a way as well. But let's take our fan glasses off and try to think about what's smart.

These are the times I think saints PR are in here to make things look like these were smart moves just like the draft of last year. How is that panning out by the way? 3 on the roster but 2 actually played

burningmetal 03-11-2015 04:00 AM

Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 644213)
These are the times I think saints PR are in here to make things look like these were smart moves just like the draft of last year. How is that panning out by the way? 3 on the roster but 2 actually played

I said earlier that I've been critical of the front office the past couple years, so don't start with me about anything other than this move. This a good move, and it has been stated why. If you don't want to believe, you obviously don't have to. But if you want to really make your point, this PR BS you like to bring up isn't helping you.

|Mitch| 03-11-2015 04:01 AM

Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 644213)
These are the times I think saints PR are in here to make things look like these were smart moves just like the draft of last year. How is that panning out by the way? 3 on the roster but 2 actually played

I don't see how this can be classified as a dumb move... We have had a top 5 offense ever since '06 with or without Graham; and now we have a very good center to help make the offense less unpredictable; plus stealing another first round pick from the 'Hawks. How can you not be satisfied with the trade?

lee909 03-11-2015 04:03 AM

Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 644207)
When you franchise a player you can use it as leverage in negotiating a trade. You don't necessarily need him to sign anything

You franchise him and then he can only be traded once he signs the tender.
Who would give up good picks for a player that unless its a place he wants to go can be leave as a free agent the following year. Also as soon as he signs the tag that money becomes fully guaranteed.

burningmetal 03-11-2015 04:03 AM

Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 644216)
I don't see how this can be classified as a dumb move... We have had a top 5 offense ever since '06 with or without Graham; and now we have a very good center to help make the offense less unpredictable; plus stealing another first round pick from the 'Hawks. How can you not be satisfied with the trade?

Exactly. If your pissed because jimmy is your favorite player, then just say it. But don't call the move dumb when it clearly has a chance to make us better. That's what it's about after all.

nola_swammi 03-11-2015 04:04 AM

Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
I'll point how this was a bad move or bad trade when the data reveal itself but for now I wish you all the best it was nice having a ear to vent to and hopefully I am wrong but I doubt it. I just hate to see the best coach the saints ever had be fired cause of idiotic trades and drafts

burningmetal 03-11-2015 04:06 AM

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It'll be alright man. And if not, that's just the way it is. We aren't a championship team if we stand pat.


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