PFW, TWWHI, Venturi re-assigned?

turbo_dog · 01-17-2005, 03:23 PM

Why can\'t we go after a coach from a team that has shown it can play defense? How about the Ravens? I believe Mike Singletary is the linebackers coach there, and I bet he\'d want to advance to a DC position. Linebacker is our weak spot on defense, we have a few(depending on the draft) young linebackers that could use the tutelage of one of the game\'s all time best MLBs.

Tobias-Reiper · 01-17-2005, 06:20 PM

He wasnt there for the 4th and 26 fiasco. He has been a coordinator before and had success, but with the job done this season with the packers I dont see much improvement with this hire.

... I stand corrected... he wasn\'t there for 4th and 26...

..however, that so-called \"success\" at coordinator, I don\'t know about that.. I believe this is the Packers is the first team that is brother is not the head coach... just because he was given the reins of an already excellent Chiefs defense for one year doesn\'t quite make him successful...

..now, he may be the best thing since Buddy Ryan, I don\'t know... but what not go with someone already established? There are a few coaches out there that I can think of before I think of an obscure DB coach....

WhoDat · 01-17-2005, 07:25 PM

Well, I guess they\'re trying to prove that ANYONE is truly better than Venturi.

Schottenheimer was the ChiefsÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢ defensive coordinator in 1999, when...

they sucked! Great - a coach from the 2nd worst defense over the last 3 season. Huge upgrade! Can we sign the Bears OC too?

shadowdrinker · 01-17-2005, 10:02 PM

Having a team break records for scoring touchdowns shouldn\'t be a reason for even looking at this guy..Let me explain...

I realize Defenses that score points is good..But..It CANNOT be a product of the defensive Coordinators plan...

He designs plays to stop Offenses...If a Quarterback throws a pass...And the Defender tips, swats..or picks it off..Thats the thing that was suppose to happen..And anything after the play..is simply a matter of having the personal talent to make a play..and possibly score...

I would much rather see a candidate that has consitently made schemes that stop other teams Offenses, and forced them into third downs ..consitently...If a player scores..thats his good play..not a product of design...just luck...

FireVenturi · 01-18-2005, 01:56 PM

New Orleans

The Saints featured the worst overall defense, at least from a statistical standpoint, in the league in 2004, but weÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢re told that likely wonÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢t lead to defensive coordinator Rick Venturi being fired. Instead, there is speculation that head coach Jim Haslett will simply reassign Venturi from defensive coordinator to position coach, because Haslett still trusts VenturiÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢s judgment as a coach and believes Venturi to be one of the best teachers in the NFL. There also has been talk that VenturiÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢s replacement ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â€Â if a change is made ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â€Â could be Packers DB coach Kurt Schottenheimer. Schottenheimer was the ChiefsÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢ defensive coordinator in 1999, when the defense set a team record for defensive touchdowns. Haslett would like to see his defense make more big plays next season, and Schottenheimer may be the answer.
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PF...m?mode=nfcsouth

[Edited on 17/1/2005 by Danno]

Still have my fingers crossed
:yourock:

Danno · 01-18-2005, 02:02 PM

Well, I guess they\'re trying to prove that ANYONE is truly better than Venturi.

Schottenheimer was the ChiefsÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢ defensive coordinator in 1999, when...

they sucked! Great - a coach from the 2nd worst defense over the last 3 season. Huge upgrade! Can we sign the Bears OC too?

Could be worse, we coulda lost our last 4 and be talking about the same guys. LOL

FireVenturi · 01-18-2005, 05:09 PM

Well if Venturi and Haz must stay, this is pretty good news. At least we may bring in a real DC. Of couse I don\'t know much about Schottenheimer, but he\'s gotta be an upgrade over Venturi, right?

The Peanut vendor is an upgrade

saintfan · 01-19-2005, 10:20 AM

The Peanut vendor is an upgrade

I\'m working at Cumulus in Houston today, and I needed a good laugh. THAT was funny! LMAO :dancingmonkey:

01-17-2005, 03:23 PM	#11
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,705	PFW, TWWHI, Venturi re-assigned? Why can\'t we go after a coach from a team that has shown it can play defense? How about the Ravens? I believe Mike Singletary is the linebackers coach there, and I bet he\'d want to advance to a DC position. Linebacker is our weak spot on defense, we have a few(depending on the draft) young linebackers that could use the tutelage of one of the game\'s all time best MLBs.

01-17-2005, 06:20 PM	#12
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	PFW, TWWHI, Venturi re-assigned? He wasnt there for the 4th and 26 fiasco. He has been a coordinator before and had success, but with the job done this season with the packers I dont see much improvement with this hire. ... I stand corrected... he wasn\'t there for 4th and 26... ..however, that so-called \"success\" at coordinator, I don\'t know about that.. I believe this is the Packers is the first team that is brother is not the head coach... just because he was given the reins of an already excellent Chiefs defense for one year doesn\'t quite make him successful... ..now, he may be the best thing since Buddy Ryan, I don\'t know... but what not go with someone already established? There are a few coaches out there that I can think of before I think of an obscure DB coach....
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01-17-2005, 07:25 PM	#13
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01-17-2005, 10:02 PM	#14
shadowdrinker Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 517	PFW, TWWHI, Venturi re-assigned? Having a team break records for scoring touchdowns shouldn\'t be a reason for even looking at this guy..Let me explain... I realize Defenses that score points is good..But..It CANNOT be a product of the defensive Coordinators plan... He designs plays to stop Offenses...If a Quarterback throws a pass...And the Defender tips, swats..or picks it off..Thats the thing that was suppose to happen..And anything after the play..is simply a matter of having the personal talent to make a play..and possibly score... I would much rather see a candidate that has consitently made schemes that stop other teams Offenses, and forced them into third downs ..consitently...If a player scores..thats his good play..not a product of design...just luck...
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01-18-2005, 01:56 PM	#15
FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	PFW, TWWHI, Venturi re-assigned? New Orleans The Saints featured the worst overall defense, at least from a statistical standpoint, in the league in 2004, but weÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢re told that likely wonÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢t lead to defensive coordinator Rick Venturi being fired. Instead, there is speculation that head coach Jim Haslett will simply reassign Venturi from defensive coordinator to position coach, because Haslett still trusts VenturiÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢s judgment as a coach and believes Venturi to be one of the best teachers in the NFL. There also has been talk that VenturiÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢s replacement ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â€Â if a change is made ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â€Â could be Packers DB coach Kurt Schottenheimer. Schottenheimer was the ChiefsÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢ defensive coordinator in 1999, when the defense set a team record for defensive touchdowns. Haslett would like to see his defense make more big plays next season, and Schottenheimer may be the answer. http://www.profootballweekly.com/PF...m?mode=nfcsouth [Edited on 17/1/2005 by Danno] Still have my fingers crossed :yourock:

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01-18-2005, 02:02 PM	#16
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	PFW, TWWHI, Venturi re-assigned? Well, I guess they\'re trying to prove that ANYONE is truly better than Venturi. Schottenheimer was the ChiefsÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢ defensive coordinator in 1999, when... they sucked! Great - a coach from the 2nd worst defense over the last 3 season. Huge upgrade! Can we sign the Bears OC too? Could be worse, we coulda lost our last 4 and be talking about the same guys. LOL

01-18-2005, 05:09 PM	#17
FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	PFW, TWWHI, Venturi re-assigned? Well if Venturi and Haz must stay, this is pretty good news. At least we may bring in a real DC. Of couse I don\'t know much about Schottenheimer, but he\'s gotta be an upgrade over Venturi, right? The Peanut vendor is an upgrade

01-19-2005, 10:20 AM	#18
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	PFW, TWWHI, Venturi re-assigned? The Peanut vendor is an upgrade I\'m working at Cumulus in Houston today, and I needed a good laugh. THAT was funny! LMAO :dancingmonkey: