Salary Cap

SCSaintsFan · 01-17-2005, 04:33 PM

Anyone know how we stand in regards to salary cap and in relation to the other teams? I read on PFW that TEN was in the worst shape (I think), but I couldn't find the actual numbers for the teams.

whodatsaintsfan26 · 01-17-2005, 04:43 PM

I believe we are 11 million under the current cap. I think the cap goes up about 5 million, so we should be about 16 million under.

whodatsaintsfan26 · 01-17-2005, 04:51 PM

from Chris Mortenson as of July 15 2004

Below is the amount of money each team is under or over the $80,582,000 million salary cap for 2004 as of July 15.

TEAM-BY-TEAM SALARY CAP UPDATE
Team Cap status
Arizona Cardinals $7.53 million under
Atlanta Falcons $3.3 million under
Baltimore Ravens $3.1 million under
Buffalo Bills $5.5 million under
Carolina Panthers $1.1 million under
Chicago Bears $4 million under
Cincinnati Bengals $5.6 million under
Cleveland Browns $11.4 million under
Dallas Cowboys $9.2 million under
Denver Broncos $1.75 under
Detroit Lions $7.2 million under
Green Bay Packers $2.4 million under
Houston Texans $3.3 million under
Indianapolis Colts $4.45 million under
Jacksonville Jaguars $7 million under
Kansas City Chiefs $6.67 million under
Miami Dolphins $6.3 million under
Minnesota Vikings $7.3 million under
New England Patriots $1.66 million under
New Orleans Saints $11 million under
New York Giants $4.9 million under
New York Jets $4 million under
Oakland Raiders $884,000 under
Philadelphia Eagles $10.3 million under
Pittsburgh Steelers $2.7 million under
St. Louis Rams $3.75 million under
San Diego Chargers $5.5 million under
San Francisco 49ers $2.5 million under
Seattle Seahawks $4.8 million under
Tampa Bay Buccaneers $2.77 million under
Tennessee Titans $523,000 under
Washington Redskins $4.8 million under

I could not find anything for the upcoming season hope this helps.

BnG001 · 01-17-2005, 06:09 PM

11 million? That\'s good right? We should be able to get some quality help in here this year.

whodatsaintsfan26 · 01-17-2005, 07:12 PM

Well I guess it depends on what we give Horn and McAllister when we resign them. Im assuming they will get both deals done this offseason. Whether or not they sign Howard to a franchise tag or a long term deal will also affect this. Hopefully we can get a couple of impact players in here with the remaining amount.

SCSaintsFan · 01-17-2005, 07:35 PM

I don\'t think 2004 #\'s apply. \'cause player salary\'s change. For example Joe Horn was \'cap friendly\' this year, but we probably need to restructure his salary for next year cause his cap number is significantly increased.

For all I know, with bonus\'s and incentives reached this year, could we be over the cap?

WhoDat · 01-17-2005, 08:31 PM

For the THIRD year in a row the Saints enter FA in the TOP FIVE in $$$ available under the cap. For the FOURTH year in a row I\'d bet anyone they\'ll do virtually NOTHING with it. Want to bet that they don\'t sign a top tier LB, DT, or T with it? Anyone? Bueller?

shadowdrinker · 01-17-2005, 11:19 PM

It\'s hard to determine exactly where we stand ...Duece will have to be signed..and he will want a signing bonus...Bare Minimum..I\'m guessing..4 million?..top shouldn\'t be more than 6-8 million? does that sound about right?

If we restructure Horn\'s contract..is there a possibility of him getting some sort of bonus as well?..or an Incentive of some kind?

If we could get out from under Sullivan\'s contract..we would be in great shape...although it would be hard for any team to pay him what he wants, with the way he behaves..I think we are stuck with him for the long haul...

However...even with all the possible scenarios..we still look a whole heck of a lot better as far as the cap situation goes than any other team...

We might be the only team available to pay some of the Top Shelf free agents the kind of money they are going to want..without having to release someone to free up room..

saintswhodi · 01-18-2005, 12:47 AM

I know from reading around shadow that Dallas and San Diego are gonna have buttloads of cap money this off-season, way more than us. We may be in a bidding war with Dallas for a few of the same free agents, if we pursue any ones anyone else would want.

shadowdrinker · 01-18-2005, 01:54 AM

Yeah..However..Brees is going to want..and he will get..a big time contract, And they have given Marty a two year extension..I\'m unsure of the details on that one though, I have heard as well though that they will be in good shape..didn\'t they sign Tomlinson to a ..60 million 6 year deal?..I think it was at the start of this year..I\'m not sure...

And..I found this story on the state of the Boys...It doesn\'t talk about cap room..but rather about how many new
coaches he is going to need..after firing at least two..and indicates that more firing..or player releases will be sure to take place...but...it\'s just heresy as of now...

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/footb...overhaul_x.htm

[Edited on 18/1/2005 by shadowdrinker]

01-17-2005, 04:33 PM	#1
SCSaintsFan Registered Join Date: May 2003 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 80	Salary Cap Anyone know how we stand in regards to salary cap and in relation to the other teams? I read on PFW that TEN was in the worst shape (I think), but I couldn't find the actual numbers for the teams.

01-17-2005, 04:43 PM	#2
whodatsaintsfan26 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 577	Salary Cap I believe we are 11 million under the current cap. I think the cap goes up about 5 million, so we should be about 16 million under.

01-17-2005, 04:51 PM	#3
whodatsaintsfan26 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 577	Salary Cap from Chris Mortenson as of July 15 2004 Below is the amount of money each team is under or over the $80,582,000 million salary cap for 2004 as of July 15. TEAM-BY-TEAM SALARY CAP UPDATE Team Cap status Arizona Cardinals $7.53 million under Atlanta Falcons $3.3 million under Baltimore Ravens $3.1 million under Buffalo Bills $5.5 million under Carolina Panthers $1.1 million under Chicago Bears $4 million under Cincinnati Bengals $5.6 million under Cleveland Browns $11.4 million under Dallas Cowboys $9.2 million under Denver Broncos $1.75 under Detroit Lions $7.2 million under Green Bay Packers $2.4 million under Houston Texans $3.3 million under Indianapolis Colts $4.45 million under Jacksonville Jaguars $7 million under Kansas City Chiefs $6.67 million under Miami Dolphins $6.3 million under Minnesota Vikings $7.3 million under New England Patriots $1.66 million under New Orleans Saints $11 million under New York Giants $4.9 million under New York Jets $4 million under Oakland Raiders $884,000 under Philadelphia Eagles $10.3 million under Pittsburgh Steelers $2.7 million under St. Louis Rams $3.75 million under San Diego Chargers $5.5 million under San Francisco 49ers $2.5 million under Seattle Seahawks $4.8 million under Tampa Bay Buccaneers $2.77 million under Tennessee Titans $523,000 under Washington Redskins $4.8 million under I could not find anything for the upcoming season hope this helps.

01-17-2005, 06:09 PM	#4
BnG001 Registered Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 31	Salary Cap 11 million? That\'s good right? We should be able to get some quality help in here this year.
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01-17-2005, 07:12 PM	#5
whodatsaintsfan26 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 577	Salary Cap Well I guess it depends on what we give Horn and McAllister when we resign them. Im assuming they will get both deals done this offseason. Whether or not they sign Howard to a franchise tag or a long term deal will also affect this. Hopefully we can get a couple of impact players in here with the remaining amount.

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01-17-2005, 07:35 PM	#6
SCSaintsFan Registered Join Date: May 2003 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 80	Salary Cap I don\'t think 2004 #\'s apply. \'cause player salary\'s change. For example Joe Horn was \'cap friendly\' this year, but we probably need to restructure his salary for next year cause his cap number is significantly increased. For all I know, with bonus\'s and incentives reached this year, could we be over the cap?

01-17-2005, 08:31 PM	#7
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Salary Cap For the THIRD year in a row the Saints enter FA in the TOP FIVE in $$$ available under the cap. For the FOURTH year in a row I\'d bet anyone they\'ll do virtually NOTHING with it. Want to bet that they don\'t sign a top tier LB, DT, or T with it? Anyone? Bueller?
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01-17-2005, 11:19 PM	#8
shadowdrinker Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 517	Salary Cap It\'s hard to determine exactly where we stand ...Duece will have to be signed..and he will want a signing bonus...Bare Minimum..I\'m guessing..4 million?..top shouldn\'t be more than 6-8 million? does that sound about right? If we restructure Horn\'s contract..is there a possibility of him getting some sort of bonus as well?..or an Incentive of some kind? If we could get out from under Sullivan\'s contract..we would be in great shape...although it would be hard for any team to pay him what he wants, with the way he behaves..I think we are stuck with him for the long haul... However...even with all the possible scenarios..we still look a whole heck of a lot better as far as the cap situation goes than any other team... We might be the only team available to pay some of the Top Shelf free agents the kind of money they are going to want..without having to release someone to free up room..
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01-18-2005, 12:47 AM	#9
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Salary Cap I know from reading around shadow that Dallas and San Diego are gonna have buttloads of cap money this off-season, way more than us. We may be in a bidding war with Dallas for a few of the same free agents, if we pursue any ones anyone else would want.

01-18-2005, 01:54 AM	#10
shadowdrinker Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 517	Salary Cap Yeah..However..Brees is going to want..and he will get..a big time contract, And they have given Marty a two year extension..I\'m unsure of the details on that one though, I have heard as well though that they will be in good shape..didn\'t they sign Tomlinson to a ..60 million 6 year deal?..I think it was at the start of this year..I\'m not sure... And..I found this story on the state of the Boys...It doesn\'t talk about cap room..but rather about how many new coaches he is going to need..after firing at least two..and indicates that more firing..or player releases will be sure to take place...but...it\'s just heresy as of now... http://www.usatoday.com/sports/footb...overhaul_x.htm [Edited on 18/1/2005 by shadowdrinker]
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