Re: I thought it was the defense that was the problem that needed fixing
 

CFL is calling

Re: I thought it was the defense that was the problem that needed fixing
 

There have been just as many releases on defense as on the offensive side of the ball... Lofton, White, and Robinson..... all gone...And, here's what I heard about the Jimmy Graham trade... is that Jimmy Grahams name wasn't the first name floated... The first name floated was Cameron Jordan... Seattle said no... So it's not like there not trying to unload some of there defensive players...

The bigger gaping whole to me has been the whole that exist because we don't have a true NT to this 3-4 defense... Teams where able to exploit the fact that we couldn't stop the run all year long after Brodrick Bunkley went down... I think the need for a Nose Tackle even supercedes the need for a speed LB... We can't get to those third and long situations because we have safeties playing LB and no NT to protect them from having to do it....

Re: I thought it was the defense that was the problem that needed fixing
 

I agree. If we run a 3-4 Jordan is a little light up front. I can't agree more about a true NT being needed. Jordan Phillips from Oklahoma fits that bill. I also think with the addition of Ellerbe drafting Miami's Perryman would make perfect since at ILB, run problem up the middle fixed along with D-line and lb. rotation.

Re: I thought it was the defense that was the problem that needed fixing
 

I heard a fair amount of both Kenny Vacarro and Cam Jordan to the Giants.
Especially Cam rumor

Re: I thought it was the defense that was the problem that needed fixing
 

It wouldn't suprize me to see Jordan traded, he has really good value to a 4-3 team.

Re: I thought it was the defense that was the problem that needed fixing
 

You would have to wonder what a team would give for a player that will be a FA next summer.

Re: I thought it was the defense that was the problem that needed fixing
 

Cam Jordan isn't the issue, the NT and RDE are the issues. Akiem Hicks is a perfect 4-3 Under Tackle or 3/4 NT, but he lacks the burst to be a 3/4 End. Therein lies the problem. Cam is the only player on the 3/4 D-Line who can set the edge and rush the passer. If they were looking at trading him it was for multiple picks. If we can get an adequate DE opposite Cam, then the D-Line becomes a strength. This is the reason we ran a 4 man front such a high percentage of the time. We need a true 3/4 DE, then we can rotate Hicks and Jenkins at NT.

Re: I thought it was the defense that was the problem that needed fixing
 

Maybe I am in the minority here, but I wouldn't mind letting Cam go... I just don't see how helpful he was last year, and might as well get for him while the getting can be had. Same with Kenny... I just wouldn't mind it. Hey if they're here I am their biggest cheerleader, but I feel like we can do better for 7 mil a year than Cameron... Now please tell me where I am wrong because I know there is something I am not seeing.

Re: I thought it was the defense that was the problem that needed fixing
 

Cameron Jordan, I think we might get a first, if not a first than a second or third and a player