I thought it was the defense that was the problem that needed fixing

saintshrimp · 03-14-2015, 09:04 AM

I see a lot of change on offense this year. I don't so far to this point understand why not much has changed to the other side of the ball You know the Real problem area. Where's the fire sale of defensive players should have been. We have a lot of draft picks now but you know we are gonna move up from 13 (Don't we pretty much always make a trade to move up on draft day) just don't see how while I like browner he's 30 now so he's a band aide short term we need to find a long term solution and Ellerbe has had one good yr. His claim to fame is he took over for Ray lewis and to tell the truth I just don't see how that is much better than what we had.

I don't know call me crazy but I think they blew up the wrong side of the ball

voodooido · 03-14-2015, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by saintshrimp

I see a lot of change on offense this year. I don't so far to this point understand why not much has changed to the other side of the ball You know the Real problem area. Where's the fire sale of defensive players should have been. We have a lot of draft picks now but you know we are gonna move up from 13 (Don't we pretty much always make a trade to move up on draft day) just don't see how while I like browner he's 30 now so he's a band aide short term we need to find a long term solution and Ellerbe has had one good yr. His claim to fame is he took over for Ray lewis and to tell the truth I just don't see how that is much better than what we had.

I don't know call me crazy but I think they blew up the wrong side of the ball

Ball control does help the defense. If the Saints can get back to 50/50 ball the defense will not be on the field for 45 of the 60 minutes.

Danno · 03-14-2015, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by saintshrimp

I see a lot of change on offense this year. I don't so far to this point understand why not much has changed to the other side of the ball You know the Real problem area. Where's the fire sale of defensive players should have been. We have a lot of draft picks now but you know we are gonna move up from 13 (Don't we pretty much always make a trade to move up on draft day) just don't see how while I like browner he's 30 now so he's a band aide short term we need to find a long term solution and Ellerbe has had one good yr. His claim to fame is he took over for Ray lewis and to tell the truth I just don't see how that is much better than what we had.

I don't know call me crazy but I think they blew up the wrong side of the ball

Good point. I think 2014 was just a year where a lot of players simply under-achieved. The talent is there in Jordan, Hicks, Galette, JJenkins, Lewis, Vaccaro, Byrd, Foster, Bunkley, Bush...

The glaring blinding gaping hole on defense was that #2 CB. I think we've addressed that partially with Browner and I expect more moves to come.

But you are correct, I expected more sooner. But its still very early in the off-season so there's still plenty of time.

First off, make Drew happy and keep him from running for his life. Improve the O-line and running game, which I think we did quite well so far.

spkb25 · 03-14-2015, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by saintshrimp

I see a lot of change on offense this year. I don't so far to this point understand why not much has changed to the other side of the ball You know the Real problem area. Where's the fire sale of defensive players should have been. We have a lot of draft picks now but you know we are gonna move up from 13 (Don't we pretty much always make a trade to move up on draft day) just don't see how while I like browner he's 30 now so he's a band aide short term we need to find a long term solution and Ellerbe has had one good yr. His claim to fame is he took over for Ray lewis and to tell the truth I just don't see how that is much better than what we had.

I don't know call me crazy but I think they blew up the wrong side of the ball

I am sorry, we added a center and RB, right? On defense we added a LB and CB, seems like the same additions...

We also resigned humber on D as well. On d we have not (yet) resigned PROB, released lofton and c. white.

We are not even at the draft. There are holes on both sides, but the offense is one guard away from being really really good.

I think we have made moves all over the place

Mr.Riaton · 03-14-2015, 09:19 AM

Browner is an older CB,but he's a little more than just a band aid player. He's gonna bring toughness and leadership to this D and locker room. Remember,even though he's older,we should have plenty of money to work with in FA next year. We can possibly get our young stud CB( maybe even two) then.

spkb25 · 03-14-2015, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Good point. I think 2014 was just a year where a lot of players simply under-achieved. The talent is there in Jordan, Hicks, Galette, JJenkins, Lewis, Vaccaro, Byrd, Foster, Bunkley, Bush...

The glaring blinding gaping hole on defense was that #2 CB. I think we've addressed that partially with Browner and I expect more moves to come.

But you are correct, I expected more sooner. But its still very early in the off-season so there's still plenty of time.

First off, make Drew happy and keep him from running for his life. Improve the O-line and running game, which I think we did quite well so far.

cb2 was a gaping hole, no doubt. the retirement of greer and whiff on champ hurt all year long

saintshrimp · 03-14-2015, 09:27 AM

I was hoping to see a lot more changes to the defense is all. I expected that White and Prob would be gone

hagan714 · 03-14-2015, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton

Browner is an older CB,but he's a little more than just a band aid player. He's gonna bring toughness and leadership to this D and locker room. Remember,even though he's older,we should have plenty of money to work with in FA next year. We can possibly get our young stud CB( maybe even two) then.

i would not think of Browner as the #2 CB after watching him last year. put him on those big slower WR and TE. A true #2 WR? heck no. he will get burned all game long. sorry he will never let himself get burned he will take the flag and mug the guy before he gets burned.

A solid #2 CB in the draft is still needed IMO

as for the rest we need to wait for the draft to see what we got done, way to many players leaving from a position and way too many players added that do not fill those position.

so far i am holding my breath. it could be great or could go south real quick

dizzle88 · 03-14-2015, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by saintshrimp

I was hoping to see a lot more changes to the defense is all. I expected that White and Prob would be gone

Corey white was released like 2 days ago.

spkb25 · 03-14-2015, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by saintshrimp

I was hoping to see a lot more changes to the defense is all. I expected that White and Prob would be gone

id like to see us add another cb and 2 lb's.. I hated losing walker, that sucks

03-14-2015, 09:04 AM	#1
saintshrimp 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Houma,LA. Posts: 695	I thought it was the defense that was the problem that needed fixing I see a lot of change on offense this year. I don't so far to this point understand why not much has changed to the other side of the ball You know the Real problem area. Where's the fire sale of defensive players should have been. We have a lot of draft picks now but you know we are gonna move up from 13 (Don't we pretty much always make a trade to move up on draft day) just don't see how while I like browner he's 30 now so he's a band aide short term we need to find a long term solution and Ellerbe has had one good yr. His claim to fame is he took over for Ray lewis and to tell the truth I just don't see how that is much better than what we had. I don't know call me crazy but I think they blew up the wrong side of the ball

03-14-2015, 09:06 AM	#2
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,770	Re: I thought it was the defense that was the problem that needed fixing Originally Posted by saintshrimp I see a lot of change on offense this year. I don't so far to this point understand why not much has changed to the other side of the ball You know the Real problem area. Where's the fire sale of defensive players should have been. We have a lot of draft picks now but you know we are gonna move up from 13 (Don't we pretty much always make a trade to move up on draft day) just don't see how while I like browner he's 30 now so he's a band aide short term we need to find a long term solution and Ellerbe has had one good yr. His claim to fame is he took over for Ray lewis and to tell the truth I just don't see how that is much better than what we had. I don't know call me crazy but I think they blew up the wrong side of the ball Ball control does help the defense. If the Saints can get back to 50/50 ball the defense will not be on the field for 45 of the 60 minutes. Jamessr likes this.
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03-14-2015, 09:13 AM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: I thought it was the defense that was the problem that needed fixing Originally Posted by saintshrimp I see a lot of change on offense this year. I don't so far to this point understand why not much has changed to the other side of the ball You know the Real problem area. Where's the fire sale of defensive players should have been. We have a lot of draft picks now but you know we are gonna move up from 13 (Don't we pretty much always make a trade to move up on draft day) just don't see how while I like browner he's 30 now so he's a band aide short term we need to find a long term solution and Ellerbe has had one good yr. His claim to fame is he took over for Ray lewis and to tell the truth I just don't see how that is much better than what we had. I don't know call me crazy but I think they blew up the wrong side of the ball Good point. I think 2014 was just a year where a lot of players simply under-achieved. The talent is there in Jordan, Hicks, Galette, JJenkins, Lewis, Vaccaro, Byrd, Foster, Bunkley, Bush... The glaring blinding gaping hole on defense was that #2 CB. I think we've addressed that partially with Browner and I expect more moves to come. But you are correct, I expected more sooner. But its still very early in the off-season so there's still plenty of time. First off, make Drew happy and keep him from running for his life. Improve the O-line and running game, which I think we did quite well so far. jnormand, Boutte and captainshawn like this.

03-14-2015, 09:18 AM	#4
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: I thought it was the defense that was the problem that needed fixing Originally Posted by saintshrimp I see a lot of change on offense this year. I don't so far to this point understand why not much has changed to the other side of the ball You know the Real problem area. Where's the fire sale of defensive players should have been. We have a lot of draft picks now but you know we are gonna move up from 13 (Don't we pretty much always make a trade to move up on draft day) just don't see how while I like browner he's 30 now so he's a band aide short term we need to find a long term solution and Ellerbe has had one good yr. His claim to fame is he took over for Ray lewis and to tell the truth I just don't see how that is much better than what we had. I don't know call me crazy but I think they blew up the wrong side of the ball I am sorry, we added a center and RB, right? On defense we added a LB and CB, seems like the same additions... We also resigned humber on D as well. On d we have not (yet) resigned PROB, released lofton and c. white. We are not even at the draft. There are holes on both sides, but the offense is one guard away from being really really good. I think we have made moves all over the place CharityMike likes this.

03-14-2015, 09:19 AM	#5
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saintshrimp 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Houma,LA. Posts: 695	Re: I thought it was the defense that was the problem that needed fixing I was hoping to see a lot more changes to the defense is all. I expected that White and Prob would be gone spkb25 and hagan714 like this.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: I thought it was the defense that was the problem that needed fixing Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton Browner is an older CB,but he's a little more than just a band aid player. He's gonna bring toughness and leadership to this D and locker room. Remember,even though he's older,we should have plenty of money to work with in FA next year. We can possibly get our young stud CB( maybe even two) then. i would not think of Browner as the #2 CB after watching him last year. put him on those big slower WR and TE. A true #2 WR? heck no. he will get burned all game long. sorry he will never let himself get burned he will take the flag and mug the guy before he gets burned. A solid #2 CB in the draft is still needed IMO as for the rest we need to wait for the draft to see what we got done, way to many players leaving from a position and way too many players added that do not fill those position. so far i am holding my breath. it could be great or could go south real quick spkb25, Rsanders24, Mr.Riaton and 1 others like this.
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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: I thought it was the defense that was the problem that needed fixing Originally Posted by saintshrimp I was hoping to see a lot more changes to the defense is all. I expected that White and Prob would be gone id like to see us add another cb and 2 lb's.. I hated losing walker, that sucks Mr.Riaton likes this.

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