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SmashMouth 03-15-2015 09:31 PM

Saints initially offered two wide receivers to Seattle before trading Jimmy Graham
 
When Saints general manager Mickey Loomis opened up trade discussions with Seahawks general manager John Schneider, he initially brought up the names of two of his wide receivers and said no one was off limits.

According to TheMMQB.com’s Peter King, Schneider said he then broached the topic of Jimmy Graham and eventually the two parties agreed on the trade that sent Graham and a fourth-round pick to Seattle in exchange for center Max Unger and a first-round pick.

Schneider was initially weary of surrendering the pick, but he told King his team only has first-round grades on 16 players. So, with Seattle picking 31st, he felt he was essentially surrendering a second rounder.


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Audiotom 03-15-2015 11:39 PM

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Steal for graham

Should have been an allpro lineman, a second starter and a #1

And not to an NFC arc nemesis

lee909 03-16-2015 01:01 AM

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You would never get that.
If teams were willing to pay a kings ransom they would have last year when they could have had him for 2 1sts.

nola_swammi 03-16-2015 01:15 AM

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This scares me. If he willing to give up 2 wr that mean he might be targeting one in this draft. Hopefully, this false

lee909 03-16-2015 01:52 AM

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Why?.
If Scherff/Collins and the best pass rushers are off the board the BPA is likely to be a WR. As much as id like to move back if that happens you cant guarantee getting the right offer.

hagan714 03-16-2015 05:33 AM

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Center Max Unger was the man SP wanted at all cost. we went after him knowing we would lose some trade leverage yet we went ahead anyways.

Max Unger is the keystone to this entire rebuilding thing SP is trying to do. on and off the field.

Now we all can see the whole picture.

Litto shows promise but he is not an Unger. Litto maybe better off at OG down the road. heck he may not figure into the equation in a year or two also. time will tell on this one

hagan714 03-16-2015 05:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 646203)
Why?.
If Scherff/Collins and the best pass rushers are off the board the BPA is likely to be a WR. As much as id like to move back if that happens you cant guarantee getting the right offer.


that could happen very easily. like the write up said it is a top heavy class. look for a run on CB and OT by the time we pick at 44. there is going to be some reaching done early and often also. i think this years rating of players is a bit screwed up because of it.

31 if you want a 2nd/3rd tier type of player we better take them then. i see a lot over hype and people pushing the ceilings pretty high on players. Both QB are a great example. Winston? watched almost all of his games this year. I do not get it. he threw a ton of INT that were his fault and his fault alone. open WR and no rush. yet blew the throw. reminds me of Arron Brooks

1st round talent is top heavy then there is a pretty good drop off in talents. but it does seem to carry pretty well for the next couple of rounds.

that is why i would not care if we trade back and stash a pick or two for 2016. or do some swapping and moving up in later rounds. pick up a player or two like the last time SP went on an overhaul rampage. i would not be surprised to see him to do some of that during the draft. worked last time pretty darn good.

if Scherff/Collins is a pick and i was Evans i would get a bit nervous. bills in the winter? welcome home kinda thing.

lee909 03-16-2015 05:54 AM

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I agree
I keep hearing this year WRs are deep,i dont see it. Not compared to last year anyway. There seems a few players in all positions that could be great but then a load of solid players. I wish we had these picks last year. At least there are 4/5 good options at ILB even if non are as good as Mosley last year or the second coming of Ray Lewis.

RaginCajun83 03-16-2015 06:35 AM

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Last year's WR class could go down as the greatest ever, it ended up having 16 being drafted and having good/great production on their teams. This year's class is deep but not as good as last years, we might never see last years class again but in this passing league now, who knows. I will say that I see about 10-15 WRs that could make an impact in the NFL this year as rookies. Which means the Saints don't need to take one in round one and can address OL and LB early and draft a WR in rounds two or three and that includes tight end.

You can quote me of this: Winston will be a skinny JaMarcus Russell in the NFL.

lee909 03-16-2015 06:43 AM

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To me the issue with a lot of the better WR in this draft after the top few are either 5'9-5'11 or have question marks in multiple areas.

RaginCajun83 03-16-2015 07:03 AM

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I'll go against my last post in this thread, if Saints keep pick and DGB is there at 31, the Saints rep better run up there to turn the card in

jeanpierre 03-16-2015 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 646224)
I'll go against my last post in this thread, if Saints keep pick and DGB is there at 31, the Saints rep better run up there to turn the card in

No F***ing Way...

Way too much baggage with that guy and his entourage...

He'll say all the right things just like a cancer, and once he's in the lockerroom, lookout...

Rugby Saint II 03-17-2015 11:38 AM

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I wonder who the second receiver was? One of them was obviously Stills but he's the only WR with value.......Colston is still valuable to us but does he have any trade value? I heard Payton said that Cooks is unavailable for trade.

brees84 03-17-2015 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 646523)
I wonder who the second receiver was? One of them was obviously Stills but he's the only WR with value.......Colston is still valuable to us but does he have any trade value? I heard Payton said that Cooks is unavailable for trade.

Andy Tanner

ScottF 03-17-2015 02:00 PM

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interesting assessment by Seattle on first round grades... they didn't think their 1st rounder was worth much

RaginCajun83 03-17-2015 02:04 PM

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I'm calling BS on Seattle's spin on first round grades, they just saying that for when Graham isn't what they thought he was going to be when the trade went down the fan base won't go burn the stadium down

brees84 03-17-2015 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 646553)
interesting assessment by Seattle on first round grades... they didn't like their 1st rounder was worth much

I read somewhere that they have 16 first round grades. I think it was during combine.

jeanpierre 03-17-2015 10:47 PM

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Okay, the question I see not asked nor answered, Who were the two wide receivers?!?

RaginCajun83 03-17-2015 11:24 PM

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Graham and Stills?

Won't know until they leak the info, LOL they never leak info

ScottF 03-18-2015 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 646686)
Okay, the question I see not asked nor answered, Who were the two wide receivers?!?

I think the key word there is "offered" , and not "two". If we offered Stills and Colston they are probably still chuckling

darksoul35 03-18-2015 07:56 PM

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I don't think u have to have as much talent to play WR as you use too. Maybe these kids from last years draft are just a product of what the rules have become. you can barely touch them now. I think if you give Brees time to throw he will make an average receiver look like a pro bowler. They just cant keep dropping passes on third down and overtime.

darksoul35 03-18-2015 07:56 PM

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COLSTON


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