Offseason: Trades/moves still to come.

halloween 65 · 03-16-2015, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Gotta be someone another team wants. Bush won't draw much.

My guess is its either Strief, Jordan or Galette.

I would like Strief to stay at least another year, he played well enough to earn his keep. In a way I would hate to lose our 1 trick pony JR. although he needs to learn how to contain ,he still gets to the qb. Jordan fits a 4-3 but to light to play up front in a 3-4.

lee909 · 03-16-2015, 10:18 AM

Strief costs us $1.2ml to trade in dead money and the thought of 4 new o - linemen in one offseason isnt comforting.

Cam Jordan offers the biggest cap relief and there is no telling if he is here next year either way.
Evans offers a good saving and dead money.

Vacarro has a nice saving a some good value (maybe giants 2nd rounder?).

Bush should get 5th imo,he has a low cap hit for any team and is better than anything youll find in the draft. Low risk/high reward.

One contract that needs sorting is Moorstead. I like the guy but cap hits of 4ml+ for the next few years for a PUNTER. Id pay that for Morten Andersen or Gostowski,a player that can win you games with 50+ yard field goals but a PUNTER no thanks

Im not saying he isnt good he is and gets great length and hieght stopping return yardage but thats alot of cap for a punter

CharityMike · 03-16-2015, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

Strief costs us $1.2ml to trade in dead money and the thought of 4 new o - linemen in one offseason isnt comforting.

Cam Jordan offers the biggest cap relief and there is no telling if he is here next year either way.
Evans offers a good saving and dead money.

Vacarro has a nice saving a some good value (maybe giants 2nd rounder?).

Bush should get 5th imo,he has a low cap hit for any team and is better than anything youll find in the draft. Low risk/high reward.

One contract that needs sorting is Moorstead. I like the guy but cap hits of 4ml+ for the next few years for a PUNTER. Id pay that for Morten Andersen or Gostowski,a player that can win you games with 50+ yard field goals but a PUNTER no thanks

Im not saying he isnt good he is and gets great length and hieght stopping return yardage but thats alot of cap for a punter

Strief is not going anywhere. He will retire a Saint. I think Vaccaro gets another chance. The entire defense was unmotivated last year.

Agree with Moorstead, a restructuring is definitely in order.

MarchingOn · 03-16-2015, 11:26 AM

Hope it's Strief. He used to be the weak link on the OL until last year's OG/C disaster.

Won't mind if it's Jordan if we get good value. Trading JR would be great but it looks doubtful another team would pony up the dollars vs the risk.

Losing nice, dependable, inexpensive Rafael Bush would be a mistake. Same reason I expected us to keep PT.

Who knows? Who woulda thought we'd trade Stills especially after Jimmy? Expect Brees to be traded next year.

hagan714 · 03-16-2015, 11:32 AM

cutting your nose off in spite of your face is never a good idea. we are close to that point now.

i hope they are laying the ground during the draft more than anything else.

draft a spot then trade from that spot

CheramieIII · 03-16-2015, 11:38 AM

Evans for sure.

jeanpierre · 03-16-2015, 12:39 PM

Trading Vacarro and/or Raphael Bush...

Rugby Saint II · 03-16-2015, 02:33 PM

I'm actually dizzy trying to think about all the possibilities.........I think Vaccaro has the highest ceiling so I want to keep him. Do we really want to move Bush just to get a fourth rounder? I would happily give him up for a third round draft pick. That would give us three picks in the third.

Tobias-Reiper · 03-16-2015, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

cap cap cap

Forget about the cap. Stop thinking about the cap. The cap is meaningless with Loomis. Every offseason is the same thing: cap cap cap cap cap. And every offseason, Loomis makes the cap his *****.

lee909 · 03-16-2015, 02:51 PM

Unless he wants to do Brees contract which will screw up next years plans you still have to be careful with dead money

03-16-2015, 09:55 AM	#11
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Offseason: Trades/moves still to come. Originally Posted by Danno Gotta be someone another team wants. Bush won't draw much. My guess is its either Strief, Jordan or Galette. I would like Strief to stay at least another year, he played well enough to earn his keep. In a way I would hate to lose our 1 trick pony JR. although he needs to learn how to contain ,he still gets to the qb. Jordan fits a 4-3 but to light to play up front in a 3-4. CharityMike likes this.

03-16-2015, 10:18 AM	#12
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,793 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Offseason: Trades/moves still to come. Strief costs us $1.2ml to trade in dead money and the thought of 4 new o - linemen in one offseason isnt comforting. Cam Jordan offers the biggest cap relief and there is no telling if he is here next year either way. Evans offers a good saving and dead money. Vacarro has a nice saving a some good value (maybe giants 2nd rounder?). Bush should get 5th imo,he has a low cap hit for any team and is better than anything youll find in the draft. Low risk/high reward. One contract that needs sorting is Moorstead. I like the guy but cap hits of 4ml+ for the next few years for a PUNTER. Id pay that for Morten Andersen or Gostowski,a player that can win you games with 50+ yard field goals but a PUNTER no thanks Im not saying he isnt good he is and gets great length and hieght stopping return yardage but thats alot of cap for a punter CharityMike likes this.
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03-16-2015, 10:47 AM	#13
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Offseason: Trades/moves still to come. Originally Posted by lee909 Strief costs us $1.2ml to trade in dead money and the thought of 4 new o - linemen in one offseason isnt comforting. Cam Jordan offers the biggest cap relief and there is no telling if he is here next year either way. Evans offers a good saving and dead money. Vacarro has a nice saving a some good value (maybe giants 2nd rounder?). Bush should get 5th imo,he has a low cap hit for any team and is better than anything youll find in the draft. Low risk/high reward. One contract that needs sorting is Moorstead. I like the guy but cap hits of 4ml+ for the next few years for a PUNTER. Id pay that for Morten Andersen or Gostowski,a player that can win you games with 50+ yard field goals but a PUNTER no thanks Im not saying he isnt good he is and gets great length and hieght stopping return yardage but thats alot of cap for a punter Strief is not going anywhere. He will retire a Saint. I think Vaccaro gets another chance. The entire defense was unmotivated last year. Agree with Moorstead, a restructuring is definitely in order.

03-16-2015, 11:26 AM	#14
MarchingOn 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 387 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Offseason: Trades/moves still to come. Hope it's Strief. He used to be the weak link on the OL until last year's OG/C disaster. Won't mind if it's Jordan if we get good value. Trading JR would be great but it looks doubtful another team would pony up the dollars vs the risk. Losing nice, dependable, inexpensive Rafael Bush would be a mistake. Same reason I expected us to keep PT. Who knows? Who woulda thought we'd trade Stills especially after Jimmy? Expect Brees to be traded next year.

03-16-2015, 11:32 AM	#15
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Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Offseason: Trades/moves still to come. Originally Posted by lee909 cap cap cap Forget about the cap. Stop thinking about the cap. The cap is meaningless with Loomis. Every offseason is the same thing: cap cap cap cap cap. And every offseason, Loomis makes the cap his *****. frydaddy and SloMotion like this.

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