'Over the Cap' founder says Saints' salary cap situation made them 'a sinking ship taking on more water'

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Monday Morning Quarterback's Peter King sat down with "Over the Cap" founder Jason Fitzgerald for his column this week. Over the Cap is a website that tracks NFL contracts and each team's salary cap.

He didn't have glowing things to say about the Saints' salary cap situation.

"They probably would have begun 2016 $35 million over the cap if they remained status quo," Fitzgerald told MMQB." Even releasing the players with the worst contracts would have provided little relief. They were just a sinking ship taking on more water. The team really had no choice. The cap was going to ruin the franchise at some point, and they are at least able to turn some bad contracts into draft assets." Players like Thomas Morstead or Rafael Bush might be in danger of release at some point. I could see the team exploring a trade for Kenny Vaccaro if they can receive reasonable value for him this summer.

Moving forward, I would still be watching two big-name players closely in New Orleans. The immediate one is guard Jahri Evans, who has an $11 million cap hit. The second name is Drew Brees, not so much this year but in 2016. Brees will enter the final year of his contract in 2016 with a $27.6 million cap number. Brees will be 37. If the two sides cannot agree on a new deal by next year, I would anticipate that the Saints will be very open to trading Brees, who would likely still hold great value even in his late-30s. That would completely close the chapter on this era of Saints football, but it’s a move they should consider if it gets them the assets needed to turn over the organization. They won’t receive anything if they let him walk away.

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stickman · 03-16-2015, 11:24 AM

I saw that article. But, isn't the team projected to be under the cap by about $30 million next year?

CheramieIII · 03-16-2015, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Monday Morning Quarterback's Peter King sat down with "Over the Cap" founder Jason Fitzgerald for his column this week. Over the Cap is a website that tracks NFL contracts and each team's salary cap.

He didn't have glowing things to say about the Saints' salary cap situation.

"They probably would have begun 2016 $35 million over the cap if they remained status quo," Fitzgerald told MMQB." Even releasing the players with the worst contracts would have provided little relief. They were just a sinking ship taking on more water. The team really had no choice. The cap was going to ruin the franchise at some point, and they are at least able to turn some bad contracts into draft assets." Players like Thomas Morstead or Rafael Bush might be in danger of release at some point. I could see the team exploring a trade for Kenny Vaccaro if they can receive reasonable value for him this summer.

Moving forward, I would still be watching two big-name players closely in New Orleans. The immediate one is guard Jahri Evans, who has an $11 million cap hit. The second name is Drew Brees, not so much this year but in 2016. Brees will enter the final year of his contract in 2016 with a $27.6 million cap number. Brees will be 37. If the two sides cannot agree on a new deal by next year, I would anticipate that the Saints will be very open to trading Brees, who would likely still hold great value even in his late-30s. That would completely close the chapter on this era of Saints football, but it’s a move they should consider if it gets them the assets needed to turn over the organization. They won’t receive anything if they let him walk away.

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Hate to say it but I agree with this guy. We all knew sooner or later it had to end but I would think that Drew would take a cut to stay. We're the franshise that gave him the shot at the Superbowl and he would've never made it with anyone else. No one was beating down his door.

B_Dub_Saint · 03-16-2015, 11:46 AM

Yada Yada Yada, same sh!t every year. We will be in the best cap situation that we have been in a long time next year. Eat a fat one Peter King

SmashMouth · 03-16-2015, 12:03 PM

Saints still in bad cap shape, even after flurry of moves | ProFootballTalk

RaginCajun83 · 03-16-2015, 12:06 PM

Don't eat the cheese

halloween 65 · 03-16-2015, 12:12 PM

I will definatly agree about the bloated contracts that Loomis has given players over the years. I could also see Brees being traded after this season, might as well strike while the iron is hot, his era will close sooner than later.

lee909 · 03-16-2015, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Saints still in bad cap shape, even after flurry of moves | ProFootballTalk

Yeah cause Evans,Colston,Bunkley are getting there full salary next year. Same with Brees

dizzle88 · 03-16-2015, 12:48 PM

They say the same thing every year, we'll really see the dividends next off season, I'd expect plenty of moves as well!

Rugby Saint II · 03-16-2015, 02:21 PM

I don't see us trading Drew. I do see us developing a young gun next year and riding Drew's arm into the sunset. He'll be in his 40's playing behind the top O-line in the NFL and still setting records. He'll retire a Saint and be a first round Hall of Fame inductee. Bank on it...........I know the Saints are.

03-16-2015, 11:06 AM	#1
Threaded by SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,044 Blog Entries: 29 Rating: (0 votes - average) Monday Morning Quarterback's Peter King sat down with "Over the Cap" founder Jason Fitzgerald for his column this week. Over the Cap is a website that tracks NFL contracts and each team's salary cap. He didn't have glowing things to say about the Saints' salary cap situation. "They probably would have begun 2016 $35 million over the cap if they remained status quo," Fitzgerald told MMQB." Even releasing the players with the worst contracts would have provided little relief. They were just a sinking ship taking on more water. The team really had no choice. The cap was going to ruin the franchise at some point, and they are at least able to turn some bad contracts into draft assets." Players like Thomas Morstead or Rafael Bush might be in danger of release at some point. I could see the team exploring a trade for Kenny Vaccaro if they can receive reasonable value for him this summer. Moving forward, I would still be watching two big-name players closely in New Orleans. The immediate one is guard Jahri Evans, who has an $11 million cap hit. The second name is Drew Brees, not so much this year but in 2016. Brees will enter the final year of his contract in 2016 with a $27.6 million cap number. Brees will be 37. If the two sides cannot agree on a new deal by next year, I would anticipate that the Saints will be very open to trading Brees, who would likely still hold great value even in his late-30s. That would completely close the chapter on this era of Saints football, but it’s a move they should consider if it gets them the assets needed to turn over the organization. They won’t receive anything if they let him walk away. read more Attached Thumbnails Last edited by SmashMouth; 03-16-2015 at 11:17 AM..
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03-16-2015, 11:24 AM	#2
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,672	Re: 'Over the Cap' founder says Saints' salary cap situation made them 'a sinking ship taking on more water' I saw that article. But, isn't the team projected to be under the cap by about $30 million next year?

03-16-2015, 11:45 AM	#3
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,480 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 'Over the Cap' founder says Saints' salary cap situation made them 'a sinking ship taking on more water' Originally Posted by SmashMouth Monday Morning Quarterback's Peter King sat down with "Over the Cap" founder Jason Fitzgerald for his column this week. Over the Cap is a website that tracks NFL contracts and each team's salary cap. He didn't have glowing things to say about the Saints' salary cap situation. "They probably would have begun 2016 $35 million over the cap if they remained status quo," Fitzgerald told MMQB." Even releasing the players with the worst contracts would have provided little relief. They were just a sinking ship taking on more water. The team really had no choice. The cap was going to ruin the franchise at some point, and they are at least able to turn some bad contracts into draft assets." Players like Thomas Morstead or Rafael Bush might be in danger of release at some point. I could see the team exploring a trade for Kenny Vaccaro if they can receive reasonable value for him this summer. Moving forward, I would still be watching two big-name players closely in New Orleans. The immediate one is guard Jahri Evans, who has an $11 million cap hit. The second name is Drew Brees, not so much this year but in 2016. Brees will enter the final year of his contract in 2016 with a $27.6 million cap number. Brees will be 37. If the two sides cannot agree on a new deal by next year, I would anticipate that the Saints will be very open to trading Brees, who would likely still hold great value even in his late-30s. That would completely close the chapter on this era of Saints football, but it’s a move they should consider if it gets them the assets needed to turn over the organization. They won’t receive anything if they let him walk away. read more Hate to say it but I agree with this guy. We all knew sooner or later it had to end but I would think that Drew would take a cut to stay. We're the franshise that gave him the shot at the Superbowl and he would've never made it with anyone else. No one was beating down his door.

03-16-2015, 11:46 AM	#4
B_Dub_Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 2,345 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 'Over the Cap' founder says Saints' salary cap situation made them 'a sinking ship taking on more water' Yada Yada Yada, same sh!t every year. We will be in the best cap situation that we have been in a long time next year. Eat a fat one Peter King jnormand, saintsfan1976, mleg1972 and 7 others like this.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: 'Over the Cap' founder says Saints' salary cap situation made them 'a sinking ship taking on more water' I will definatly agree about the bloated contracts that Loomis has given players over the years. I could also see Brees being traded after this season, might as well strike while the iron is hot, his era will close sooner than later.

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lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,793 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 'Over the Cap' founder says Saints' salary cap situation made them 'a sinking ship taking on more water' Originally Posted by SmashMouth Saints still in bad cap shape, even after flurry of moves \| ProFootballTalk Yeah cause Evans,Colston,Bunkley are getting there full salary next year. Same with Brees ScottF, RaginCajun83 and aintasinner like this.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,118	Re: 'Over the Cap' founder says Saints' salary cap situation made them 'a sinking ship taking on more water' They say the same thing every year, we'll really see the dividends next off season, I'd expect plenty of moves as well!

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,043	Re: 'Over the Cap' founder says Saints' salary cap situation made them 'a sinking ship taking on more water' I don't see us trading Drew. I do see us developing a young gun next year and riding Drew's arm into the sunset. He'll be in his 40's playing behind the top O-line in the NFL and still setting records. He'll retire a Saint and be a first round Hall of Fame inductee. Bank on it...........I know the Saints are. AsylumGuido, RaginCajun83 and captainshawn like this.

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