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saintfan 03-18-2015 11:28 AM

Re: LSU Collins #13
 
We will take Amari Cooper if he's there.

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Beastmode 03-18-2015 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 646771)
We will take Amari Cooper if he's there.

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I could see that for sure. I could even see trading up then, trading down in the 2nd. We would get a very good WR and bolster the rest of defense with mid and late round picks.

RaginCajun83 03-18-2015 12:16 PM

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NOOOOOOOO .... tired of them using mid round picks on defensive players that don't pan out, now is the time to actually mix in some "blue chip" prospects on Def if they pan out

Danno 03-18-2015 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 646776)
NOOOOOOOO .... tired of them using mid round picks on defensive players that don't pan out, now is the time to actually mix in some "blue chip" prospects on Def if they pan out

I see your point but its likely that the blue chip defenders will be gone at 13, and I'd rather take a 5-star WR like Cooper or White than a 4-star defender.

Its a can't miss spot at 13. There will be a 5-star player available at either DE, WR, DT, OLB, CB or OL.

I hope we stay at 13 and simply take the BPA of that group. We have a need at every one of those spots.

Now if we did go offense at 13, I sure hope we go BPA on defense at 31 or move up or down to draft some quality prospects.

saintsfan1976 03-18-2015 01:22 PM

Re: LSU Collins #13
 
White > Cooper

RaginCajun83 03-18-2015 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 646778)
I see your point but its likely that the blue chip defenders will be gone at 13, and I'd rather take a 5-star WR like Cooper or White than a 4-star defender.

Its a can't miss spot at 13. There will be a 5-star player available at either DE, WR, DT, OLB, CB or OL.

I hope we stay at 13 and simply take the BPA of that group. We have a need at every one of those spots.
Now if we did go offense at 13, I sure hope we go BPA on defense at 31 or move up or down to draft some quality prospects.

There will be some stud defender at 13, I hope they only take a WR if Beasley and Shelton are gone, not sold on Ray or Gregory and if that's the case just take Collins or Scherff IMO WRs for this team can be found in rounds 3-5

I actually agree with you that I hope they just stay put at 13,31 and use one on both sides of the ball

Beastmode 03-18-2015 03:51 PM

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I would be very surprised if we kept both 1's. Two very good WR's up there and we have the ability to get one with little to no pain. Certainly won't ruin our draft like Atlanta

Rugby Saint II 03-18-2015 05:01 PM

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Do Not Move Up With The 13th Pick!!! Maybe with the 31st but even then there will be too many impact players available in a position of need when we pick. There are always starters available in the 2nd round. The problem is identifying the player who fits your system best and has the least risk.

No more project players in the second round or third round even. Maybe in the 4th round. And stop taking high risk/high reward players in the draft. It feels like there is always more risk involved than any actual reward when we gamble on players. Let's stay put and draft several several blue chip starters in the early rounds. If we want to package some of our low picks for a higher draft pick to get an impact player I hope they pull the trigger.

I would prefer to package a couple of our mid to late round picks if we have targeted a player who falls. Although, I hesitate doing that because we draft pretty well in the later rounds. The mid rounds is where we can have success with a developmental project that has starter potential. We just need to identify the talent better on both sides of the ball in the mid rounds and walk away with some quality backups that can develop into starters.

We seem to do well in the late rounds and I'm split on whether we should bundle them and move up or if we should stay put and hope to find more diamonds in the rough. Typically we also have an unusually strong UDFA class so I feel better about packaging late round picks to get a particular player.

After that we have to worry about paying our draft picks........and everyone knows we're poor.

triman 03-19-2015 10:21 PM

Re: LSU Collins #13
 
I see BPA @ 13 and moving up or down in the 31 spot. Ideally I'd like to get another pick from a team like Houston,looking for a QB.


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