Is there anyone worth moving up for?

ChrisXVI · 03-18-2015, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

I disagree with as many holes as we have created for ourselves; you prioritize...

no way do you package 2 first round picks to move up for say Amari Cooper when you can get a starting guard and a starting LB instead...

I hear ya... I just worry that when a team puts themselves in a position where they have lots of holes that they have to fill in the draft it gets dangerous. The draft is such a crapshoot. There's definitely a fine line. I'd love to stay put with both of our 1st round picks but Loomis and Payton don't make me feel confident.

jnormand · 03-18-2015, 05:01 PM

I just don't want another "project" in the first 2 rounds.

Halo · 03-18-2015, 05:13 PM

Just draft offensive line and linebacker as along as you can and pick the best cornerback you can grab along the way.

We have wideouts, tightends, runningbacks etc. I know we traded some receivers, but every great receiver we've ever had (Stills excluded) was a project player with raw talent - free agent or late rounds pick. Graham was one of those too.

Rugby Saint II · 03-18-2015, 05:14 PM

Danny Shelton is the only player I would move up for but I'm not giving up anything before the fifth round. We have a shot at getting a starter at every position of need before then so I'm not "wasting" a draft pick. Especially after seeing the production from the players we've moved up in the draft for with this brain trust.

RaginCajun83 · 03-18-2015, 05:17 PM

There is no Andrew Luck in this draft so there is no one to trade up for, keep the picks and draft BPA with each one

spkb25 · 03-18-2015, 05:49 PM

what I am wondering is could we package our 2 with our 13 to move up? We have two 3's and the second 1 is like a 2??

Danno · 03-18-2015, 05:56 PM

Great question. I assume you mean more than just simply 2 or 3 spots.

No, I don't think there's anyone worth moving up for. The difference between the top 5 or 6 players and the next 5 or 6 isn't worth what it would cost to move up.

Stay where we are and we get a 5 star player at one of several need positions.

Now that 31st pick, thats a totally different discussion.

ChrisXVI · 03-18-2015, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

what I am wondering is could we package our 2 with our 13 to move up? We have two 3's and the second 1 is like a 2??

Packaging our pick at 13 and our 2nd rounder could get us up to the 6th or 7th spot. Any higher than that and we'd have to throw in more picks.

WillSaints81 · 03-18-2015, 06:06 PM

After thinking about this I want us to move up.

I realized something Atlanta did that was very underhanded. They think they have taken over after sweeping us. I also think they delibertately played with no effort against Carolina because they knew they were not going to the sb and would have a higher pick than us. They decided to end our season and throw the division.

So yes I would want us to trade up in front of Atlanta and steal Vic Beasley or Shane Ray. Let's show them manipulation since their entire organization has been all about it since we won a superbowl. Also getting one of those two along with Browner, Ellerbe, Byrd, how the hell do we not have a much improved defense?

I wonder if maybe Loomis and Payton figured that out.

Danno · 03-18-2015, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

After thinking about this I want us to move up.

I realized something Atlanta did that was very underhanded. They think they have taken over after sweeping us. I also think they delibertately played with no effort against Carolina because they knew they were not going to the sb and would have a higher pick than us. They decided to end our season and throw the division.

So yes I would want us to trade up in front of Atlanta and steal Vic Beasley or Shane Ray. Let's show them manipulation since their entire organization has been all about it since we won a superbowl. Also getting one of those two along with Browner, Ellerbe, Byrd, how the hell do we not have a much improved defense?

I wonder if maybe Loomis and Payton figured that out.

Falcons have multiple needs as well. Jumping them doesn't mean they won't get a 5 star player. It just means we'd lose some picks.

03-18-2015, 04:51 PM	#11
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Is there anyone worth moving up for? Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| I disagree with as many holes as we have created for ourselves; you prioritize... no way do you package 2 first round picks to move up for say Amari Cooper when you can get a starting guard and a starting LB instead... I hear ya... I just worry that when a team puts themselves in a position where they have lots of holes that they have to fill in the draft it gets dangerous. The draft is such a crapshoot. There's definitely a fine line. I'd love to stay put with both of our 1st round picks but Loomis and Payton don't make me feel confident.

03-18-2015, 05:01 PM	#12
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,647	Re: Is there anyone worth moving up for? I just don't want another "project" in the first 2 rounds. Halo, nola_swammi, RaginCajun83 and 4 others like this.

03-18-2015, 05:13 PM	#13
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,565 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Is there anyone worth moving up for? Just draft offensive line and linebacker as along as you can and pick the best cornerback you can grab along the way. We have wideouts, tightends, runningbacks etc. I know we traded some receivers, but every great receiver we've ever had (Stills excluded) was a project player with raw talent - free agent or late rounds pick. Graham was one of those too. hagan714 and RaginCajun83 like this.

03-18-2015, 05:14 PM	#14
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,043	Re: Is there anyone worth moving up for? Danny Shelton is the only player I would move up for but I'm not giving up anything before the fifth round. We have a shot at getting a starter at every position of need before then so I'm not "wasting" a draft pick. Especially after seeing the production from the players we've moved up in the draft for with this brain trust. MarchingOn likes this.

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RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Is there anyone worth moving up for? There is no Andrew Luck in this draft so there is no one to trade up for, keep the picks and draft BPA with each one \|Mitch\| and brees84 like this.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,093	Re: Is there anyone worth moving up for? what I am wondering is could we package our 2 with our 13 to move up? We have two 3's and the second 1 is like a 2??

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Re: Is there anyone worth moving up for? Great question. I assume you mean more than just simply 2 or 3 spots. No, I don't think there's anyone worth moving up for. The difference between the top 5 or 6 players and the next 5 or 6 isn't worth what it would cost to move up. Stay where we are and we get a 5 star player at one of several need positions. Now that 31st pick, thats a totally different discussion. spkb25 likes this.

03-18-2015, 05:59 PM	#18
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Is there anyone worth moving up for? Originally Posted by spkb25 what I am wondering is could we package our 2 with our 13 to move up? We have two 3's and the second 1 is like a 2?? Packaging our pick at 13 and our 2nd rounder could get us up to the 6th or 7th spot. Any higher than that and we'd have to throw in more picks.

03-18-2015, 06:06 PM	#19
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Is there anyone worth moving up for? After thinking about this I want us to move up. I realized something Atlanta did that was very underhanded. They think they have taken over after sweeping us. I also think they delibertately played with no effort against Carolina because they knew they were not going to the sb and would have a higher pick than us. They decided to end our season and throw the division. So yes I would want us to trade up in front of Atlanta and steal Vic Beasley or Shane Ray. Let's show them manipulation since their entire organization has been all about it since we won a superbowl. Also getting one of those two along with Browner, Ellerbe, Byrd, how the hell do we not have a much improved defense? I wonder if maybe Loomis and Payton figured that out.

03-18-2015, 06:09 PM	#20
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Re: Is there anyone worth moving up for? Originally Posted by WillSaints81 After thinking about this I want us to move up. I realized something Atlanta did that was very underhanded. They think they have taken over after sweeping us. I also think they delibertately played with no effort against Carolina because they knew they were not going to the sb and would have a higher pick than us. They decided to end our season and throw the division. So yes I would want us to trade up in front of Atlanta and steal Vic Beasley or Shane Ray. Let's show them manipulation since their entire organization has been all about it since we won a superbowl. Also getting one of those two along with Browner, Ellerbe, Byrd, how the hell do we not have a much improved defense? I wonder if maybe Loomis and Payton figured that out. Falcons have multiple needs as well. Jumping them doesn't mean they won't get a 5 star player. It just means we'd lose some picks.

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