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Mr.Riaton 03-25-2015 07:33 PM
Re: GMs with the highest % of Draft picks to make 1+ Pro Bowls.
 
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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 647850)
Pro Bowl voting just isn't a valid measuring device IMO - case and point Colston having never been voted in, but an injured Evans, in a down-year, makes the Pro Bowl simply on reputation.

Just arguing against the validity of this assessment.
Good point, but he still drafted Evans and that's what this is all about.

FinSaint 03-25-2015 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 647854)
Good point, but he still drafted Evans and that's what this is all about.
True, but I was just using Evans as a familiar example.

There are multiple Pro Bowl choices of the past, who should never have been selected based on their actual performances compared to their contemporaries.

Again, I'm not saying the assessment is wrong - only that the basis it's founded upon isn't valid IMO.

Mr.Riaton 03-25-2015 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 647862)
True, but I was just using Evans as a familiar example.

There are multiple Pro Bowl choices of the past, who should never have been selected based on their actual performances compared to their contemporaries.

Again, I'm not saying the assessment is wrong - only that the basis it's founded upon isn't valid IMO.
I agree with you to a degree. All I'm saying is the players that are picked because of popularity are the vets that have been there over and over so they're kinda grandfathered in so to speak. But I don't think there's any player that at one point in time didn't deserve to be there. I think that stat about Loomis is pretty valid,because every Saint that made the pro bowl under his drafting deserved to be there at one point in time.

Rugby Saint II 03-30-2015 06:26 PM
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Ummmmm............don't forget we suck at finding defensive talent. I sure hope that Ireland changes all that. :bng:

Danno 03-30-2015 06:32 PM
Re: GMs with the highest % of Draft picks to make 1+ Pro Bowls.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 647850)
Pro Bowl voting just isn't a valid measuring device IMO - case and point Colston having never been voted in, but an injured Evans, in a down-year, makes the Pro Bowl simply on reputation.

Just arguing against the validity of this assessment.
As Riaton stated, the article designates a player that has made at least one or more pro-bowls.

99% of 1st time pro-bowlers deserved it.

The reptation vote is mostly for respected vets that have been their numerous times before.

Seer1 03-31-2015 10:04 PM
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Yeah, but did they make the pro bowl with the team that drafted'em?

Danno 04-01-2015 10:19 AM
Re: GMs with the highest % of Draft picks to make 1+ Pro Bowls.
 
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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 648638)
Yeah, but did they make the pro bowl with the team that drafted'em?
Yes, it only includes picks drafted by Loomis.


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