Sean Payton Breaks Down Saints' Draft Needs

jeanpierre · 03-26-2015, 06:08 PM

Really don't like taking Collins at 13...

If he were a cornerstone Left Tackle, maybe, but he's not a LT...

He's a RT/Guard and we can get a Donovan Smith or Ali Marpet in the third round...

Use the first round picks on dynamic linebackers, defensive linemen...

We've got to fix the defense and win back that line of scrimmage...

xan · 03-26-2015, 06:18 PM

OT on the right side has been a huge problem no matter what call is made. It may be worth it just to have better control over the line of scrimmage. Saints may have had a potent offense, but it had so many 3/4-outs over the season that cause the defense's demise in many games.

Control the line, control the game. We should learn at least SOMETHING from the last 4 superbowl winners.

voodooido · 03-26-2015, 07:29 PM

Jonathan Martin waived by San Francisco 49ers - ESPN

Martin could be a valued backup and allow O-Line to wait till the 5th rd. Started 9 games for the faggy winers last year.

voodooido · 03-26-2015, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Really don't like taking Collins at 13...

If he were a cornerstone Left Tackle, maybe, but he's not a LT...

He's a RT/Guard and we can get a Donovan Smith or Ali Marpet in the third round...

Use the first round picks on dynamic linebackers, defensive linemen...

We've got to fix the defense and win back that line of scrimmage...

Pretty sure Guard is a bigger need than tackle at this time. Collins will be a stud Guard for a long time.

blackangold · 03-26-2015, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Honestly looking at our picks at 13 we will be lucky to have

OT La'el Collins
CB Trae Waynes

still on the board. that leaves the last thing that is close to being a sure thing with

WR DeVante Parker

after that it is all upside and hype. high risk high rewards types.

Randy Gregory looks to have screwed up everything. pray that at least 2 teams ahead of us take the roll of the dice and go with a few of them high risk high rewards types and leave us some more of those solid less hyped players to pick from

There are always surprises come draft day. I know that over the last few years I have been shocked at players dropping and some 2nd round projected guys getting taken in the top 10. It's a sure thing that a few teams will reach for players that shouldn't go in the top 10.

billyt81 · 03-28-2015, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by VegasSaint9

La'El Collins is the only one that truly fits in your draft position. No way does Danielle Hunter go at pick 31, no way does Kwon Alexander go at our 2nd rd pick. Kwon is a player I would like to draft but I dont know if he fits the scheme. Not to mention the Saints don't like drafting LSU players... Man I wish we had this amount of picks last year to draft OBJ...I was telling all my friends before the draft that he was going to be the best WR in the draft. ( i live in vegas)

Are you sure about Danielle Hunter's draft position? Mingo was drafted 6th last year and Hunter is better against the run. Hunter needs to improve as a pass rusher but with that speed he can do that. Kwon Alexander is about the same size as Derrick Brooks who just entered the HOF. Alexander was a ferocious hitter at LSU. He can play. I totally agree that the Saints won't draft LSU players. WHY NOT?! They're good and the fans love it.

billyt81 · 03-28-2015, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Pretty sure Guard is a bigger need than tackle at this time. Collins will be a stud Guard for a long time.

Agreed. I think Collins next to Armstead would be lethal. A great O-Line protects the defense and Brees too. It's a proven way to build a team.

03-26-2015, 06:08 PM	#11
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Sean Payton Breaks Down Saints' Draft Needs Really don't like taking Collins at 13... If he were a cornerstone Left Tackle, maybe, but he's not a LT... He's a RT/Guard and we can get a Donovan Smith or Ali Marpet in the third round... Use the first round picks on dynamic linebackers, defensive linemen... We've got to fix the defense and win back that line of scrimmage...

03-26-2015, 06:18 PM	#12
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,369 Blog Entries: 34	Re: Sean Payton Breaks Down Saints' Draft Needs OT on the right side has been a huge problem no matter what call is made. It may be worth it just to have better control over the line of scrimmage. Saints may have had a potent offense, but it had so many 3/4-outs over the season that cause the defense's demise in many games. Control the line, control the game. We should learn at least SOMETHING from the last 4 superbowl winners. Ashley and halloween 65 like this.

03-26-2015, 07:29 PM	#13
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,766	Re: Sean Payton Breaks Down Saints' Draft Needs Jonathan Martin waived by San Francisco 49ers - ESPN Martin could be a valued backup and allow O-Line to wait till the 5th rd. Started 9 games for the faggy winers last year.
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03-26-2015, 07:32 PM	#14
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,766	Re: Sean Payton Breaks Down Saints' Draft Needs Originally Posted by jeanpierre Really don't like taking Collins at 13... If he were a cornerstone Left Tackle, maybe, but he's not a LT... He's a RT/Guard and we can get a Donovan Smith or Ali Marpet in the third round... Use the first round picks on dynamic linebackers, defensive linemen... We've got to fix the defense and win back that line of scrimmage... Pretty sure Guard is a bigger need than tackle at this time. Collins will be a stud Guard for a long time.
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03-26-2015, 08:04 PM	#15
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Sean Payton Breaks Down Saints' Draft Needs Originally Posted by hagan714 Honestly looking at our picks at 13 we will be lucky to have OT La'el Collins CB Trae Waynes still on the board. that leaves the last thing that is close to being a sure thing with WR DeVante Parker after that it is all upside and hype. high risk high rewards types. Randy Gregory looks to have screwed up everything. pray that at least 2 teams ahead of us take the roll of the dice and go with a few of them high risk high rewards types and leave us some more of those solid less hyped players to pick from There are always surprises come draft day. I know that over the last few years I have been shocked at players dropping and some 2nd round projected guys getting taken in the top 10. It's a sure thing that a few teams will reach for players that shouldn't go in the top 10.

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03-28-2015, 10:42 PM	#16
billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: Sean Payton Breaks Down Saints' Draft Needs Originally Posted by VegasSaint9 La'El Collins is the only one that truly fits in your draft position. No way does Danielle Hunter go at pick 31, no way does Kwon Alexander go at our 2nd rd pick. Kwon is a player I would like to draft but I dont know if he fits the scheme. Not to mention the Saints don't like drafting LSU players... Man I wish we had this amount of picks last year to draft OBJ...I was telling all my friends before the draft that he was going to be the best WR in the draft. ( i live in vegas) Are you sure about Danielle Hunter's draft position? Mingo was drafted 6th last year and Hunter is better against the run. Hunter needs to improve as a pass rusher but with that speed he can do that. Kwon Alexander is about the same size as Derrick Brooks who just entered the HOF. Alexander was a ferocious hitter at LSU. He can play. I totally agree that the Saints won't draft LSU players. WHY NOT?! They're good and the fans love it.

03-28-2015, 10:45 PM	#17
billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: Sean Payton Breaks Down Saints' Draft Needs Originally Posted by voodooido Pretty sure Guard is a bigger need than tackle at this time. Collins will be a stud Guard for a long time. Agreed. I think Collins next to Armstead would be lethal. A great O-Line protects the defense and Brees too. It's a proven way to build a team. RaginCajun83 likes this.

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