After 2014, Brees should be traded
 

He finished with a 97.0 QB rating after all.

Do you know just how bad that is compared with previous Saints QBs and their best efforts in the black & gold???

Billy Kilmer 74.9 in 1969
Archie Manning 81.8 in 1980
Ken Stabler 71.8 in 1981
Dave Wilson 83.9 in 1984
Bobby Hebert 82.9 in 1987 and 1992
Wade Wilson 87.2 in 1994
Jim "Chris" Everett 87.0 in 1995
Mike Ditka's QB cluster 83.5 (Tolliver) in 1998
Aaron Brooks 88.8 in 2003


Yep, it's painfully obvious that we would be smart to dump Brees and go back to our normal QB carousel...

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lead the league in yards and bone headed ints

as you led the charge in euro 1/4s

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Usually helps not to have an O line that's getting manhandled up the middle, too. That cuts down typically on boneheaded INTs.


Thanks but Drew gives us a better chance to win than ANYONE in the draft and a better chance to win than you would have with at least 27 of the other 31 current NFL starters.

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There is valid argument on both side of where you stand on the issue.

Trade him now while he has some now... don't trade him because he did this and did that.

I don't know if many people have been paying attention but we are rebuilding. Sure we can ride this pony until he has nothing left but we need to worry about the next 10 years as well. If you check the roster there isn't anyone on it that will replace him.

I don't see a right or wrong answer to the debate.

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Dude, very few actually believe he'll be traded, but I'm personally tired of hearing the arguments against it. Comparing old Saints QB's to Drew, or any current starting quarterback in the league is utterly pointless. The game is completely tailored for the passing game now. If your rating is anywhere below 85 today, you pretty much suck.

When you throw as much as we do, you get yards which equates to higher QB ratings, but you also are prone to turn it over, and the rating system doesn't penalize near enough on turnovers. Drew used to be a lot more efficient, but now he gets a lot more garbage yards that skew his stats, it seems. He can still be elite at times, and there is currently no answer to replace him. So I'm not saying to get rid of him, I'm merely stating what I see.

As for the offensive line, some people don't like to hear this but as it's been said before, Drew's contract has a lot to do with the patchwork O-line. That's why you at least entertain the idea of trading him, if you believe you've got an adequate QB to step in. Brees is not God, he is not the untouchable force that some want to think he is. Maybe he restuctures, maybe he takes a pay cut. Who knows. I doubt he is ever traded, but he won't be here forever. What will we do when his contract is up or he retires? Who knows who will be available when that time comes, so do we just let him walk, or do we get something back? We'll find out one day, but in the mean time don't be so dismissive of the idea.

I am, however, critical of the "reports" that keep coming out about him being shopped. Of course the Saints will listen to offers, but there is nothing substantial going on to warrant a story.

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Wow. Seriously shaking my head...

Let's see what happens behind a solid O line before we go trading our best asset.

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:deadhorse2:

:deadhorse:


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If you are in doubt about Drew & CO read this from NFL.com

Which five new teams will make the playoffs in 2015?

1. New Orleans Saints: A stronger offensive line and a stronger running game mixed with another year of learning under defensive coordinator Rob Ryan. This team's mediocrity a year ago still feels so much like a fluke, and after some simple adjustments, the Saints are a prime candidate to reach the postseason again. Unless the Panthers make some serious strides, or a top quarterback steals the show in Tampa Bay, Drew Brees and Co. have us believing that a refreshed roster can make another run.

Dan Hanzus, on the Around The NFL Podcast, thinks the Saints will go 12-4.

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YES.
And the for the 33,000,000th time, trading him costs us $33,000,000 in dead money.

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Yeah! Johnny Football and Bourbon St! Priceless!!

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How do you figure there is dead money in the event of a trade? Releasing a player would result in dead money.

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Who said we were trading him? Other than the original post which was clearly sarcasm.

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Barring the the SB and a couple of strong efforts, he has had to deal with some of the worst defenses in the history of the NFL. Horrible. He would have to make 0 mistakes to counter that level of effort. Not going to happen. We need an average to good defense. The man can play respectable enough for several more years with a decent defense.

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from a business stand point it makes sense.

emotionally as fan? nope

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Retire a Saint
Go out in glory

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You forgot the part about how he only helps us achieve a top 5 offense year in year out lately with a crappy offensive line and no real number one receiver.

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No.

Large signing bonuses and guarantees can be dangerous because every dollar spent hits the salary cap eventually. A player who leaves via trade, release or retirement before any bonus proration or other guaranteed money have been amortized carries an accelerated cap hit.

Saints would be foolish to trade Drew Brees -- and they aren't: Jeff Duncan | NOLA.com

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Oh come on!
Drew does not have a grin like Aaron :rolleyes:

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as long as it ends...

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THERE ARE NO REPORTS OF BREES BEING SHOPPED AROUND!!!

ONLY REPORTS OF HIM NOT BEING SHOPPED AROUND.

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Am I really the only one that took the OP as satire?

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If he's not being shopped what can't we get for him? Oh goody! More "What If?"

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This just in: Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead!!

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Well, whoever we got got we wouldn't be able to pay... with our current cap space we can afford anyone from Sanchez on down:
2015 Quarterback Contracts and Salaries | Over The Cap

Stanton maybe? Shaun Hill? I actually know Whitehurst's mom. I hope we get him :)

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OMG! Not Dirty Sánchez, The Butt Fumbler!!!

https://mrnsnflthoughts.files.wordpr...utt-fumble.jpg

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Brees just needs to restructure so we can rebuild. Otherwise we are postponing the rebuild until his contract ends. God forbid he goes some other team after that and leaves us in purgatory. He is all about the dollar signs so I think it is very conceivable he is done with NOLA at the end of this contract. What we basically have is liken to a South American politician who leaves office with all the nations money and leaves behind a destitute country which does not have the means to rebuild itself.

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The QBs of the past remind me of this video.

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In all fairness if you put some of those qb.'s behind Brees O-line and Brees behind theirs, Brees would be much, much, lower and theirs especially Archie's would be much higher.
Kilmer- a good qb. that in those years the run was dominate.
Archie- to me, hall of famer, never to even get a sniff in Canton. Any decent team might have won a Superbowl with him. Not being a homer here just looking a a truely talented qb. that wasted away on a sad team year in and year out.
Stabler- washed up when we got him.
Wilson- nothing flashy but solid for the O we ran.
Heber- trader that talked a better game than he played.
Everett- I really don't know what to think about him.
Ditkas cluster- was just that
Brooks- punk, makes me sick til today. Many times I would wish a blitzing lb. would decapatate his head from his body.

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Garbage yards skew his stats? WHAAA, 4952 yards a lot of trash there He can be elite at times, everyone has a bad game

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Ludachris!

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Thanks. That was good for a laugh! :razz:

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All the listed QB's played behind the OL's they played behind and will never play behind the ones Brees has and vice versa. The point is mute. Big difference between What is and What if!

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Stupid talk!.

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NO

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If you don't like QB rating as a measuring stick, try:

1) wins
2) postseason wins
3) Superbowl wins


The whole reason I posted this is that all of the discussion of getting off the Brees bandwagon before all 4 wheels fall off, the axles are broken and the driver is MIA is ludicrous.

He's by ANY measure the best QB we have ever had and probably will be the best Saints QB of any of our lifetimes...

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But the question remains... for how much longer before the wheels do come off.

Being smarter than that average bear and pull the plug before the wheels come off isn't a bad theory if the right QB comes along... Colts have faired well with that theory.

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Seriously? You guys have WAY TOO MUCH TIME ON YOUR HANDS. Off-season is hard, huh?