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Danno 04-02-2015 03:12 PM

Trading up, kinda sorta
 
How do you guys feel about trading a pick or two this year for a better pick or two next year.

I'm thinking the closer we get to the end of Drew's career the better off we'll be with extra picks to possibly draft his eventual successor.

Euphoria 04-02-2015 03:19 PM

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I think his successor is in this draft and we don't have to trade up to get him.

Danno 04-02-2015 03:49 PM

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If you mean Bryce Petty, I'm with ya. It looks like he needs about 2 years of development and thats about what Drew's got left.

But at #31 or with our 2nd rounder?

blackangold 04-02-2015 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 648875)
If you mean Bryce Petty, I'm with ya. It looks like he needs about 2 years of development and thats about what Drew's got left.

But at #31 or with our 2nd rounder?

3rd rounder...

SmashMouth 04-02-2015 03:59 PM

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Neaux..... and NeauxFW!

We got Ingram the last time we traded up. While he isn't a bust, not sure at all he was worth moving up for. And before, we wound up with Sully.

:puke:

Danno 04-02-2015 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 648878)
Neaux..... and NeauxFW!

We got Ingram the last time we traded up. While he isn't a bust, not sure at all he was worth moving up for. And before, we wound up with Sully.

:puke:

I think you missed the point.

lumm0x 04-02-2015 04:34 PM

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I think if we can turn a pick this year into a higher pick next year we have to consider it. It all depends on our draft board and if anything we are interested in is available where we are sitting at the time. I'd rather trade deeper and get more picks or future picks than reach for something or pick outside our interests for the sake of being stuck using the pick if it means that.

Beastmode 04-02-2015 04:37 PM

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If the densense was not so horrible, might be a good idea but we have to get better on that side now.

ChrisXVI 04-02-2015 04:40 PM

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Man I don't know... You mean like trading our #31 pick to a team looking to jump back into the first round in exchange for their 2016 2nd rounder? If that happens to be offered it would be awfully tempting.

But at the same time... I kinda feel like using all these picks we have this year to help put the best team we can around our next QB so he won't have everything on his shoulders.

jeanpierre 04-02-2015 04:41 PM

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The only ++ guys I'd trade up to get are Beasley and Scherff or trade the 5th rounders to get in the high 4th round for a defensive end like Henry Anderson if he fell there...

Petty has only been in a one read and go offense, I like Ryan Griffin more...

And we pulled Griffin back to keep the Rams from getting him, so there's something there...

I like keeping both first rd picks because you get the extra year on their rookie contracts and that's huge, major cap relief, trade options there...

NOLA54 04-02-2015 05:12 PM

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Mickey & Sean already know what they are going to do with their draft picks and I think one may include a QB.

Danno 04-02-2015 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 648883)
Man I don't know... You mean like trading our #31 pick to a team looking to jump back into the first round in exchange for their 2016 2nd rounder? If that happens to be offered it would be awfully tempting.

But at the same time... I kinda feel like using all these picks we have this year to help put the best team we can around our next QB so he won't have everything on his shoulders.

No, typically a pick this year would translate to a higher pick next year.

We'd trade our 2nd for a 2016 1st, or our 3rd for a 2016 2nd.

triman 04-02-2015 06:21 PM

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All In Now I say we trade a 3 and 2016 1 and get another 1 this year

Mr.Riaton 04-02-2015 06:32 PM

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Ive actually thought of that already being that this draft class is thin in the first round. I wouldn't hate it if it happened.

ChrisXVI 04-02-2015 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 648891)
No, typically a pick this year would translate to a higher pick next year.

We'd trade our 2nd for a 2016 1st, or our 3rd for a 2016 2nd.

Yeah that's right, I see what you mean now. So many possibilities. I'd gladly give up one of our 3rds for a 2016 2nd rounder. That would take incredible patience by Loomis and Payton though to not package one of those picks in a trade up in the 1st or 2nd round.

Rugby Saint II 04-02-2015 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 648903)
Yeah that's right, I see what you mean now. So many possibilities. I'd gladly give up one of our 3rds for a 2016 2nd rounder. That would take incredible patience by Loomis and Payton though to not package one of those picks in a trade up in the 1st or 2nd round.

I don't know if there is anybody in the building who can stop them from moving up........it's kind of their M. O.:dunce:

Danno 04-02-2015 06:58 PM

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Wow, I'm surprised that so many people didn't read the original post.

Rugby Saint II 04-02-2015 07:37 PM

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I would trade away any picks after the fifth round for something better next year. The higher we draft the more the odds are in our favor of hitting it big.

Seer1 04-02-2015 09:12 PM

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What's the promise that there would be someone better next year? I can see trading around for a much needed player this year, but for next? Plus, what's the guarantee that that pick would be high enough to even matter anyways?

FinSaint 04-03-2015 03:00 AM

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I think it would be a good idea to trade away f.e. the 31st for something like a 2nd and a 4th next year - if someone were to offer that. You could always use those picks to move up this year as well if someone the Saints like fell in the later rounds.

It all depends on the big board and who's available when the Saints are picking.

One of the reason is also the tight salary cap, so trading away the other 1st rounder might make financial sense.

saintsfan1976 04-03-2015 06:40 AM

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Great question.

I think it all depends on how we address our first 3 picks and what it took to get there.

If we select an impact OL, DL, LB, WR, CB or any combination of those in the first three picks we could trade our 3rd (78) and maybe a safety for a high 2nd or even first to New England, Buffalo or Chicago.

But on to Brees - look I've said this for a long time now. I think Drew's replacement is already playing in the NFL.

hagan714 04-03-2015 08:50 AM

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greatest fear picking 13

from the bears at 7 down all the teams have the same needs as us and this could be what we are stuck with on the board

Randy Gregory
Shane Ray
Malcom Brown

all the safest bets are off the board. not crazy about them pickings for sure. a lot maybe's and could be with each one just like pick 31.

voodooido 04-03-2015 09:15 AM

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I could see trading out at 13 for a rd one next year and a 2 and 4th this year. Maybe trade the 31st for a 2 and 4th this year and a 2nd next year. I guess it all depends on how they feel about the depth in the draft this year. Either way I would be fine. I would like to see them use all 5 picks in the first 72 this year though. DE, LB, WR, OL, OL in that order. Use the 2 5ths for a qb and for the love of God a kicker! A lot of options this year!

SmashMouth 04-03-2015 09:34 AM

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The more picks the better ... but our window with Drew is diminishing fast. We need to make the picks count, all of them.

saintsfan1976 04-03-2015 10:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 648980)
greatest fear picking 13

from the bears at 7 down all the teams have the same needs as us and this could be what we are stuck with on the board

Randy Gregory
Shane Ray
Malcom Brown

all the safest bets are off the board. not crazy about them pickings for sure. a lot maybe's and could be with each one just like pick 31.

Trade up from 13?

What would that cost? Swap firsts and add a 2nd?


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