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The sad part is we didn't need to trade up for any of the Payton picks.

Cooks would have fell to us, Ingram would have dropped to the second round and Ellis may have fallen to us as well.

I don't mind that they trade up for players, but they have done a piss poor job at scouting players which has forced them to make piss poor picks overall including the trades.

Ingram and Cooks could still pan out to be great, but the point is we could have had them without moving up.

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Oh dude I don't care about past coaches. I am talking about SP.

Cooks the jury is out on, and how many spots did we move for that? Couple???

Ellis, ub yeah, dude was terrible.

MI would feel better had we got him in second, unless this season matches last season

So really ellis is the comparable to this year. Cause that is what we'd be doing, moving to like 6 or 7. I guess I am thinking Scherrf won't be there when we select and i'd like to get that dude

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Brown was good for us. I hav no probs with that pick, and grant was too.

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looking overthis made me view last years draft, uh horrible

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Last years draft may end up being the worst in the Payton tenure.

Cooks is the only good pick and we gave up too much to get him in a WR deep draft... I am just glad people got fired for it.

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Nothing can touch 2009 or 2010

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Trade up to 6 if and only if Leonard Williams is there. so thats is out lol

if we do move up I would rather see a third and player that clears even more cap space.

falcons at 8 are not trading with us lol. so Chicago at 7 is the pick IMO. remember we have a chi-town connection in the front office. so if you want to stick it to clowns the bears might be happy to help out

pick 7 for 13, 3rd and Jr packing works for me.

Brandon Scherff
Trae Waynes
Vic Beasley

all three fill needs for us and the falclowns.

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I like it but I don't think trading JR is any help not only does it weaken our defense but it also gives us more dead money. How about instead of trading Jr. How about this add a 5th.

I get Jr maybe a bad seed but they should have thought about that before the extended his contract.

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Naeole missed only one game in his 11 years as a pro, started 150 of 154. till his career ending injury.

Stupidest thing we ever did at the guard position back then was letting him walk in 2002. LeCharles Bentley was drafted in round 2 to fill his spot. so we spent a 1st and a second by 2002 to fill one spot an in the end Bentley was at center. So we had to go find yet another player to fill the guard position. Montrae Holland in 2003 in the 4th. next up Jahri Evans in 2004. and so on

Bentley and Naeole would have solved so many issues for years on the OL.

typical Jim Haslett move.

I still like the pick today. some times longevity and solid play on the interior lines out weigh pro bowls

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Bentley should of never been moved to Center in the first place, Fontenot should of been resigned and then you have a strong middle of the line. Then again this is Haslett we are talking about, logic didn't apply

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I only used Jr because of the rumor mill that SP is sick of him. that is all

then again pick 31 could go OLB.

but swapping him for additional later picks or even the next years works for me also

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I wouldn't mind that, I've wanted Gallette gone before the "arrest" headaches

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Good point on Naole... I had misremembered.

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Winning cures a lot of discontent. I don't recall Jr being a problem when we were winning games. I don't mind a guy being sour about losing wish more of the guys had that feeling. I know losing sucks as a fan but I can bet that guys that put their blood sweat and tears into a season it feels worse than anything. I like the fact that JR gets to the QB

The problem is we can't tackle has been that way for a long time.

I also think that Peyton should look in the mirror as well cause for a offensive guru supposedly his offense has been predictable and nothing new in years maybe he should come up with a few new wrinkles to the playbook. I thought that year off he would have come up with something new but I've yet to see anything new

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Stay put

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Fontenot did only play one more year but. 2003 draft i was eye balling Dan Koppen from BC for the saints as his replacement. i was on a roll back then

Bentley Fontenot Naeole

Yep the interior of the OL would have been solid for a year at least

Naeole i wanted from day one. so i am bias :saintsfan:

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Maybe I'm bias since I played center and guard but an offense only goes as far as it's offensive line can take them. You want proof, compare 2009 results to last years

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It will be hard to get rid of him now that he has a contract that greatly over pays him.

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Gallette had his salary turned into a signing bonus before the cap deadline

"By converting that bonus into a signing bonus, the Saints can now spread the salary cap hit that comes with it over a five-year period.

This restructured contract saves the Saints $10 million when it comes to the NFL's salary cap."

Junior Galette restructures contract with Saints | New Orleans - WDSU Home

now is the time to trade him

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I knew taking Les Kelley was a mistake back in 1967. Typical Tom Fears move! Alan Page couldn't miss! Those were the good times. Lose every game but at least the other team felt it!!! Super Bowl? we didn't need no stinking Super Bowl!!

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With a dead hit of £10ml now isnt the time to trade

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It's still 4 years 41 million. they just spread it out to save cap space.

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16.2 million in dead money... JR isn't going anywhere.

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I wouldn't put anything past Loomis now, if Payton wants Gallette gone then Loomis will find a way to make it happen

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We're going with a Peter Griffin mentality in round 1. I can feel it. No way we sit on two #1's. We're going to do something unconventional. I do however believe it will work out. We get somebody that makes an immediate impact.