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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; ... you want to win the super bowl. The simple reality is the Saints have NOT competed in free-agency. Instead, we've gone the cheap route in free-agency!! Now, the question is, whose fault is it that we haven't competed in ...
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01-26-2005, 07:00 PM | #1 |
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... you want to win the super bowl.
The simple reality is the Saints have NOT competed in free-agency. Instead, we've gone the cheap route in free-agency!! Now, the question is, whose fault is it that we haven't competed in free-agency? Haslett? That's very hard for me to believe. Haslett doesn't want the best players in FA? Come on!! Haslett would have to be INSANE not to want to sign the big name FA. Or could it be Benson and Loomis? Let's see... Benson is the one who has to shell out the money. So, you tell me who's the most likely culprit in the FA decisions?!?! And then there is Loomis!! What is Loomis? An accountant whose job it is to watch every last cent!! Benson and Loomis have spent money on players that were drafted. But they HAD to do that!! But you can't compete with the Big Boys if you go the cheap route in free-agency!! Haslett or no Haslett, we MUST start competing in free-agency. The Orlando Ruffs of the world ain't going to get it done. Every year there are "proven" players on the market and every year we watch them sign with other teams. Whose fault is that? You tell me?? [Edited on 27/1/2005 by GumboBC] |
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01-26-2005, 07:04 PM | #2 |
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well on or two names that come to mind are trotter and douglas. they both played for other teams and had all the hype. then they were both released and then went back to the eagles to be decent again. or in trotters case pretty darn good again. you cant be sure of what you get there either
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01-26-2005, 07:14 PM | #3 |
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Billy, I\'m with you 100% brother. (Aside from that Haslett bears no responsibility business)
The Eagles \"overpaid\" for both Owens and Kearse and here they are in the superbowl. Maybe there\'s something to this free agency business after all.
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spk, this is a look at the shiny lights over there and please ignore Haslett cause I want him to stay post. Don\'t get sucked in man.
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01-26-2005, 07:38 PM | #5 |
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Dude, you\'re okay in my book. You might think I have an agenda to deflect blame from certain players or coaches... but I don\'t. Unless you think Benson and Loomis share no blame. Now, I\'m totally speculating about Benson and Loomis. But I think both have played a large role in us NOT competing in free-agency. My way of thinking is Haslett isn\'t so much worried about spending Benson\'s money. Is that \"flawed\" logic? Come on man... tell me? |
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Best article I could find on the subject.
http://clarionherald.org/20020731/buddyd.htm
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saintwhodi --
Thanks for the article. Very good read. But that stil doesn\'t answer too much for me. Does Haslett indeed make all the personnel decisions? Or how much of a role does Loomis have? Honestly, I don\'t know. But I wish I did. And is Benson handcuffing Haslett by not spending the money in free-agency? If it is Haslett\'s fault, then Haslett needs to be fired immediately!! |
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I don\'t wanna argue, but like I said, it\'s the best article I could find. If it was a condition of his extension, I don\'t knwo why he wouldn\'t have it. Just ask yourself, how is it that when Haslett decides to change schemes every year, we get rid of players and get players who fit that scheme? He wanted to get bigger on the line, bye Glover hello Hand and Jackson. I don\'t think that\'s coincidence. HE claimed they needed more speed in the secondary, bye Sammy hello Tebucky. So unless you believe Loomis is getting players AND THEN Haz decides to change his scheme, I have every reason to believe based on this article and the decisions that were made Haz has as much to do with personnel decisions as anyone.
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This is pretty much a repeat of the thread I started not too long ago...\"Why are the Saints different?\" You can\'t blame Loomis, Hazlett, Mueller, Mora, or Finks...so that only leaves one person. If the free agents you named previously are the best you can come up with, then what does that tell you. Think about some of the FA\'s that we have not signed over the years...Neon Deion, TO...just to name a couple. I think that money is definitlely one factor, but it also could be that people just don\'t want to come to NO because of the losing reputation. That is the only thing that can be said to possibly defend Benson, because they would probably have to make offers that they could not refuse, and that just ain\'t gonna happen here.
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Joe Horn ruined this team as far as FA. Don\'t kill me yet. Hear me out...
It was Haslet\'s first year and they broght in this nobody from KC and he lit up the sky. Ever since in every offseason we have been looking for another Joe Horn at other positions. The thing is, we touched greatness once. Do they expect to be able to do it again and agin? I guess so. SOME of the moves have been total disasters others have just been minor disasters. But I can only think of one great FA pickup we\'ve made in Haslet\'s tenure and that\'s Joe. Thank God he\'s paying dividends on the field because we are certainly paying for them off the field. |