Saints Move into Top 5 via Trade with AFC Team

Seer1 · 04-28-2015, 04:24 PM

Love it all except for Waynes. Watched him a lot last year. He was great against the lesser talent , but the games against tOSU and Baylor exposed him as fairly mediocre. We already have the SJB "project" occupying our bench. Put a linebacker in there instead.

Lenny100 · 04-28-2015, 06:47 PM

I could go for the LB in the #13 spot, as well.

Thanks for weighing in.

foreverfan · 04-28-2015, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

My left brain is now beating the crap out of my right brain and I'm too tired to attempt to break it up...

Beastmode · 04-28-2015, 06:29 PM

Prepared to eat crow, but we are moving up. That will become evident when the Bucs pass on Winston. We are going to get the best defender we can get. I don't know who that is at this point but the tea leaves to me say it would be stupid not to do this. We will do whatever it takes to grab as high as we can.

Lenny100 · 04-28-2015, 06:49 PM

Nothing surprises me with Loomis. I believe he's traded up unnecessarily for Ingram and Cooks when both very likely would've still been available where the Saints' selections spots were.

The rule of thumb is when you have a deep draft (like this one) and not a great spread of talent between #16 and #50 (for example) you trade DOWN and not UP. Of course, Loomis leaves a lot to be desired (imo).

saintsfan1976 · 04-28-2015, 07:16 PM

We don't need drastic moves in the draft to be in the playoffs again.

Rugby Saint II · 04-28-2015, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

We don't need drastic moves in the draft to be in the playoffs again.

No. We need talent on the roster. Smart drafting not semi-smart gambles is what we need.

Lenny100 · 04-28-2015, 08:14 PM

Of course, the "goal" is not merely to be in the playoffs again. The goal is, if I'm not mistaken, to field one highly competitive and championship-caliber NFL team each and every season using all possible means necessary.

Personnel changes, financial prudence, and thinking outside the box with calculated risks/rewards are all parts of the equation in my estimation.

K Major · 04-28-2015, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

No. We need talent on the roster. Smart drafting not semi-smart gambles is what we need.

This is why I think we should stay put at 13 and 31.

We need as many young, talented, driven players as possible. With the addition of Jeff Ireland and his scout team, I'm sure we will do the right thing on Thursday night.

Lenny100 · 04-29-2015, 09:51 AM

K Major:

I do see the benefits of staying put, as well, especially if certain chips fall favorably for the Saints ahead of pick #13 and pick #31.

Jeff Ireland? He did draft Dion Jordan with #3 overall and the Ellerbe contract isn't nearly as appealing as originally reported.

My jury is still out on Jeff and this draft will tell us lots about him.

04-28-2015, 06:47 PM	#2
Lenny100 Rookie Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 14	Re: Saints Move into Top 5 via Trade with AFC Team I could go for the LB in the #13 spot, as well. Thanks for weighing in.
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04-28-2015, 05:02 PM	#3
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints Move into Top 5 via Trade with AFC Team Originally Posted by saintfan My left brain is now beating the crap out of my right brain and I'm too tired to attempt to break it up...
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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Saints Move into Top 5 via Trade with AFC Team Prepared to eat crow, but we are moving up. That will become evident when the Bucs pass on Winston. We are going to get the best defender we can get. I don't know who that is at this point but the tea leaves to me say it would be stupid not to do this. We will do whatever it takes to grab as high as we can.
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04-28-2015, 06:49 PM	#5
Lenny100 Rookie Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 14	Re: Saints Move into Top 5 via Trade with AFC Team Nothing surprises me with Loomis. I believe he's traded up unnecessarily for Ingram and Cooks when both very likely would've still been available where the Saints' selections spots were. The rule of thumb is when you have a deep draft (like this one) and not a great spread of talent between #16 and #50 (for example) you trade DOWN and not UP. Of course, Loomis leaves a lot to be desired (imo).
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04-28-2015, 07:16 PM	#6
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,021 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Move into Top 5 via Trade with AFC Team We don't need drastic moves in the draft to be in the playoffs again.

04-28-2015, 04:24 PM	#1
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Saints Move into Top 5 via Trade with AFC Team Love it all except for Waynes. Watched him a lot last year. He was great against the lesser talent , but the games against tOSU and Baylor exposed him as fairly mediocre. We already have the SJB "project" occupying our bench. Put a linebacker in there instead.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,151	Re: Saints Move into Top 5 via Trade with AFC Team Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 We don't need drastic moves in the draft to be in the playoffs again. No. We need talent on the roster. Smart drafting not semi-smart gambles is what we need. Lenny100 likes this.

04-28-2015, 08:14 PM	#8
Lenny100 Rookie Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 14	Re: Saints Move into Top 5 via Trade with AFC Team Of course, the "goal" is not merely to be in the playoffs again. The goal is, if I'm not mistaken, to field one highly competitive and championship-caliber NFL team each and every season using all possible means necessary. Personnel changes, financial prudence, and thinking outside the box with calculated risks/rewards are all parts of the equation in my estimation. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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04-28-2015, 09:05 PM	#9
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,829 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Move into Top 5 via Trade with AFC Team Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II No. We need talent on the roster. Smart drafting not semi-smart gambles is what we need. This is why I think we should stay put at 13 and 31. We need as many young, talented, driven players as possible. With the addition of Jeff Ireland and his scout team, I'm sure we will do the right thing on Thursday night. Rugby Saint II likes this.

04-29-2015, 09:51 AM	#10
Lenny100 Rookie Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 14	Re: Saints Move into Top 5 via Trade with AFC Team K Major: I do see the benefits of staying put, as well, especially if certain chips fall favorably for the Saints ahead of pick #13 and pick #31. Jeff Ireland? He did draft Dion Jordan with #3 overall and the Ellerbe contract isn't nearly as appealing as originally reported. My jury is still out on Jeff and this draft will tell us lots about him.
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