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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I can tell you put a lot of thought, research and effort into this post, and you make some very interesting points for your arguments. That being said, I get VERY NERVOUS when the Saints make trades. They invariably give ...
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Re: Saints Move into Top 5 via Trade with AFC Team
I can tell you put a lot of thought, research and effort into this post, and you make some very interesting points for your arguments. That being said, I get VERY NERVOUS when the Saints make trades. They invariably give up too much and don't demand enough in return for what they ask. Just look at the trade with Seattle as an example. We should NEVER have given up our 4th round pick in that deal. Seeing your examples of how we can replace certain players that we would trade, I don't necessarily agree with the players you picked us to draft. I can see Leonard Williams, but then I'd want Scherff in that same round if possible, as well as some other players that I feel are better at their positions than some listed. I'd like to see what you could come up with such as multiple trades, ie at least 2, with two different teams in the first round that could make the above happen. Otherwise a good post and a good read. Thanks
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Marlboro Man:
Thank you very much...and I like your way of thinking, too. Tedi Bruschi said today that Jets DE Muhammad Wilkerson is 'worth more than the #1 overall pick this year' when commenting on ESPN. If that's the case, what are Jordan's and Gallette's respective values on the open market if they were "available" as Wilkerson appears to be? Bear in mind, Wilkerson is under the same $7M fifth-year option compensation clause Cameron Jordan is. What could the Saints get for either Jordan or Gallette based on Bruschi's valuation conjecture/opinion? I think it's wise for the Saints to explore DE values this year given the two contracts in place for Gallette and Jordan and the deep draft in DL. I also think Dallas could become a trade partner with #27 overall and a need for DE, SS, and LB...the parts mentioned in this hypothetical offering for discussion and retorts. |
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i'm thinking of going off the grid until 7pm Thursday
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I didn't read the whole thing, but I'll just say what I think about the first part of it. I don't see a trade of Cam Jordan happening. He's been very inconsistent thus far, but you still have to hope that he figures it out, because if he doesn't and you get rid of him then essentially you're trying to replace him in the draft instead of adding someone to go with him. Because we already know that he IS capable, even if he is lacking consistency, it doesn't make much sense to trade him unless we got a proven player back... There's no such player in the draft.
from the other teams' perspective, if Jordan wants a crap load of money (which he'll have a difficult time getting if he doesn't establish himself better) then why give away draft picks for the guy AND have to turn around and pay him a ton of money. This isn't baseball, you need to have more long term control of a player if you're going to pay a high price. I'd rather trade Galette if it's all about freeing cap space down the road. But again, who wants to trade for these guys? I suppose anything is possible, but it would be pretty dumb on the part of any team that fell for a deal like that. Sometimes it happens, though. |
If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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solid work and food for thought.
@13 for sale in my book for any 1at in 2016. doping up the draft board has screwed us big time/ wrong draft to have 2 1st in. we are not out of the reach for the best bets in the first round. Seattle looks to have been the smart one in the Jimmy trade after all selling it to move down is more likely. i am liking a package deal so philly can move up but a future #1 is more important than ever not veteran players. hell a pick in 2017 would work for me. we can trade that on draft day in 2017. bail out 1 all together. keep pick 31. even then that is up for sale for a better pick in round 2 than 44; this draft blows for first round talent. some of the better Jr did come out. |
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I believe Byron jones is the best cornerback coming out in this year draft and I think we can get him at the 31 pick. It's a gamble but with Brandon Browner, Keenan Lewis starters and Brian Dixon, Delvin Breaux at back up, then Stanley Jean Baptiste might be ready to contribute this year I'll hope they take the risk.
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Byron Jones i have one question for you. how does going from a 6/7 prospect at the end of the year to a 1/2 ranking really makes sense? granted i thought he was more of a round 3/4 type myself at season end not the 6/7. I would not be surprised to see him on the board at 44. kinda of amazed if we see him by 75. 44 might be the realistic spot for him.
In my book he is in the top 5 of over hyped player in the draft. 13 BPA all the way needs are not in play with that pick. I still say bail and salvage what you can for 2016 |
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