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voodooido 04-29-2015 08:26 AM

La'el Collins falling due to murder probe?
 
Anyone hear about this?

Murder probe involving LSU G/T … Baton Rouge police reportedly want to speak with former LSU G/T La’el Collins, a first-round prospect for Thursday’s draft who is presumably on his way to Chicago, about the shooting death of a pregnant ex-girlfriend of his over the weekend. Collins is not a suspect according to police in Baton Rouge, but is seen as someone who can provide some information about the victim.

lee909 04-29-2015 08:28 AM

Re: La'el Collins falling due to murder probe?
 
Heard this morning.

Real bad timing as his agent is saying they are in contact and he isn't a suspect. Can you take the risk?

I take it myself especially in trading back. Id do the same with Peters and possibly DGB too.

spkb25 04-29-2015 09:08 AM

Re: La'el Collins falling due to murder probe?
 
I don't think so since he isn't a suspect, doubtful he had anything to do with it

lee909 04-29-2015 09:15 AM

Re: La'el Collins falling due to murder probe?
 
You just wonder if teams panic. Especially with little time to investigate. If a any of the players have got there heads sorted there are going to be bargains eith the flagged players

nola_swammi 04-29-2015 09:19 AM

Re: La'el Collins falling due to murder probe?
 
Sound politically he isn't a suspect maybe due circumstances. I can't see the D.A making a request statement like that so close to the draft with out probable cause. Hopefully, this isn't another Rae Carruth situation but I hate to say it but I will take him off the board

spkb25 04-29-2015 09:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 651529)
You just wonder if teams panic. Especially with little time to investigate. If a any of the players have got there heads sorted there are going to be bargains eith the flagged players

Possible

spkb25 04-29-2015 09:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 651531)
Sound politically he isn't a suspect maybe due circumstances. I can't see the D.A making a request statement like that so close to the draft with out probable cause. Hopefully, this isn't another Rae Carruth situation but I hate to say it but I will take him off the board

IDK, they said there has been no contact between him and her since last September. Maybe they are just following any lead because they're not close to solving it. Anything is possible, but I didn't take that from the info, but shoot, truthfully, what do I know?? Nada

SmashMouth 04-29-2015 09:37 AM

Re: La'el Collins falling due to murder probe?
 
Police seek sit-down with NFL prospect after pregnant woman's murder | Fox News

Tobias-Reiper 04-29-2015 09:59 AM

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Shades of Rae Carruth

Carruth Not A Suspect - CBS News

Quote:

Police have not described Carruth as a suspect, but said they think he has information that could help them solve the crime.

spkb25 04-29-2015 10:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper (Post 651544)
Shades of Rae Carruth

Carruth Not A Suspect - CBS News

Yikers, that is not good!!!

Good find dude!

Foot Stomper 04-29-2015 11:33 AM

Re: La'el Collins falling due to murder probe?
 
Hope the catch whoever took away this young lady's life. Terrible tragedy with two kids left behind. Why are there so many mean people in this world.

RaginCajun83 04-29-2015 11:58 AM

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I read he's not a suspect, the police are talking to him since it's his ex. Perfect timing, he should be there at 13 now

QBREES9 04-29-2015 12:01 PM

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OH-BOY ! RED Flag....

|Mitch| 04-29-2015 12:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 651519)
Collins is not a suspect according to police in Baton Rouge, but is seen as someone who can provide some information about the victim.

Why would he fall in the draft? Not a suspect...

SmashMouth 04-29-2015 12:15 PM

Re: La'el Collins falling due to murder probe?
 
La'el Collins leaving NFL Draft in Chicago to return to Baton Rouge, according to ESPN | NOLA.com

LSU's La'el Collins wanted for questioning by police following shooting death of a pregnant woman | NOLA.com

QBREES9 04-29-2015 12:20 PM

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Not a suspect... Draft him.

SmashMouth 04-29-2015 12:42 PM

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La'el Collins hires private investigator, to meet Baton Rouge police about pregnant woman's death after NFL draft | LSU | The Advocate — Baton Rouge, Louisiana

blackangold 04-29-2015 12:57 PM

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How can he afford a PI right now?

arsaint 04-29-2015 01:44 PM

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The 2015 NFL (criminal) Draft saga continues


Maybe we need to trade all our picks for 2016 selections???

Cruize 04-29-2015 01:46 PM

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Not good.

stickman 04-29-2015 02:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 651570)
Why would he fall in the draft? Not a suspect...

Just my 2 cents, but, I think when it gets this close to the draft, teams look for a reason NOT to draft a guy. Something to justify to themselves, and maybe fans, picking another player. This could offer teams that justification even though it may turn out to be nothing other than he happened to date someone who was murdered later.

voodooido 04-29-2015 03:59 PM

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It would be nice if he fell to 31 or better yet 44!

spkb25 04-29-2015 04:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 651591)
How can he afford a PI right now?

Because either his agent has fronted him money or banks will take the risk since they know what he's about to be worth

spkb25 04-29-2015 04:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 651591)
How can he afford a PI right now?

why would you hire one if you had nothing to do with it and are not a suspect, that is raising a red flag for me.....

triman 04-29-2015 05:32 PM

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All these players involved in questionable activities its quite the indictment on our society. Only one post mentioned the poor woman that lost her life. Another child orphaned. I wonder if Collins is the father? Crummy timing if he is not Involed.

jeanpierre 04-29-2015 05:43 PM

Re: La'el Collins falling due to murder probe?
 
What's really scary, dirty is when teams put stories out on a prospect in hopes that he'll fall in the draft...

If there was anyway to prove it, they should bring the hammer down on those teams for it, compensate the player for potential lost earnings...

Beastmode 04-29-2015 05:44 PM

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He'd have to be missing lots of cog wheels up there if he decided to make this happen right before one of the best days of his life.

I don't believe he drops though, teams are compensated in that event. It's not like a complete waste.

papz 04-29-2015 05:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 651591)
How can he afford a PI right now?

Advances from his agent most likely. Gifts, money from endorsements, family, etc. as well. How do you think all these athletes are all blinged out and in fancy attire prior to signing a contract?

Quote:

Just my 2 cents, but, I think when it gets this close to the draft, teams look for a reason NOT to draft a guy. Something to justify to themselves, and maybe fans, picking another player. This could offer teams that justification even though it may turn out to be nothing other than he happened to date someone who was murdered later.
I concur.

jeanpierre 04-29-2015 06:23 PM

Re: La'el Collins falling due to murder probe?
 
Papz...

Heard you know how to pick LBers?

We called you out in another post but didn't hear from you...

What are your thoughts?

papz 04-29-2015 06:31 PM

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I think this was the least I've ever followed football during the off season in the past 20 years. I don't even want to speculate, google, and regurgitate someone else's info to use as my own. I honestly have no clue beyond the top few position prospects... will be looking forward to all the scouting reports you guys post afterwards. :bng:

Danno 04-29-2015 06:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 651591)
How can he afford a PI right now?

Is he or his family in poverty?

PI's don't cost all that much.

NonieT 04-29-2015 06:55 PM

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La'el Collins leaving NFL Draft in Chicago to return to Baton Rouge, according to ESPN | NOLA.com

hagan714 04-30-2015 07:37 AM

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If Collins is the father then hiring a PI makes sense. Even being an X that is the mother to your child. If this is the case it says a lot about him as a person.

time will tell

stickman 04-30-2015 08:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 651617)
why would you hire one if you had nothing to do with it and are not a suspect, that is raising a red flag for me.....


You hire one because this story is affecting your draft stock. Going from the top half of the first round to the lower half or later means a lot of money.

stickman 04-30-2015 08:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by triman (Post 651622)
All these players involved in questionable activities its quite the indictment on our society. Only one post mentioned the poor woman that lost her life. Another child orphaned. I wonder if Collins is the father? Crummy timing if he is not Involed.


You are quite right sir. I don't think this woman's family is concerned with Collins' draft stock right now. Prayers for them and the, now, motherless child.

SmashMouth 04-30-2015 10:58 AM

Re: La'el Collins falling due to murder probe?
 
Increasing feeling that La’el Collins undraftable unless he’s exonerated | ProFootballTalk

lee909 04-30-2015 11:00 AM

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Is there a point snyone would take a punt?

I personally would at the tail end of tbe third before the comp picks let Baltimore snap him up

papz 04-30-2015 11:02 AM

Re: La'el Collins falling due to murder probe?
 
Him not talking to cops until after the draft certainly complicate things. Originally I didn't think it would hurt his draft stock, but now, given teams don't have anything but Collins' word to go on, I'd probably also pass on taking him early... which is a shame as that's who I really wanted. With that said, I'd still take a chance on him with our 3rd pick.

lee909 04-30-2015 11:07 AM

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Its difficult
I always like to look at people as innocent until proven guilty. He is the sort of player we need.

Its just finding the sweetspot that you can select him. Then het a contract that voids all guaranteed money if he is charged with the crime.


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