Re: Bottom Line: Jimmy Graham for Max Unger & Stephon Anthony!
 

OMG your post crack me up...

Seriously though, the only thing to shock me about round one was that the three team, 70 player trade Lenny predicted never manifested itself

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Re: Bottom Line: Jimmy Graham for Max Unger & Stephon Anthony!
 

LMAO

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Well, that is not a very nice thing to say, I for one don't care for it, and I am not pleased to have made your acquaintance. Good day to you

Re: Bottom Line: Jimmy Graham for Max Unger & Stephon Anthony!
 

You're ignore list works wonders :mrgreen:

Re: Bottom Line: Jimmy Graham for Max Unger & Stephon Anthony!
 

2nd play beas gets pancaked, lol

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People who think Stephon Anthony is a poor choice need to sign a list and post it on here so i can laugh at them at the end of the season

Re: Bottom Line: Jimmy Graham for Max Unger & Stephon Anthony!
 

Well said. It seems like common sense,right?

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Sounds like a bunch of butt hurt.

Re: Bottom Line: Jimmy Graham for Max Unger & Stephon Anthony!
 

And they could give some of you guys a bag of roses and you would say it smelled like cow dung.

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On my old computer I had a list of bookmarks to threads just for rubbing people's faces in the crap they spewed out. It was marvelous.

Though, that makes me think... Canton Legend must be so happy that we finally got rid of Pierre Thomas, who was a horrible RB because he wasn't drafted. *snicker*

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Beam me up on that list Swammi. whats your criteria of a good year

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Wow, that's a name I haven't heard in a long time. Wonder what ever happened to that guy...

Re: Bottom Line: Jimmy Graham for Max Unger & Stephon Anthony!
 

He spontaneously combusted. Talk about a hot head...

Re: Bottom Line: Jimmy Graham for Max Unger & Stephon Anthony!
 

Every player has an upside & a downside. None of them are perfect. If they are teachable & have talent that's a huge upside.

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Anthony will be the most impactful rookie we have had....ever.

Can't wait.

I didn't notice the guy until I watched highlights of Vic Beasley and I kept seeing #42 flying around the field. I found myself watching more of Anthony in Beasley HL vids... this guy is a steal and easily the best ILB. However, if we missed him and picked up Perryman/Dawson I would be excited but not as much.

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Looks like we went with a lot of "character" picks. Was there any truth that Graham was not a good locker room team mate ?

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Canton was just passionate about his Love for the Saints who forgot to maintain his civility because he was baited...

He's a good guy...

and EVERYONE on this board has been dead wrong about something...

Re: Bottom Line: Jimmy Graham for Max Unger & Stephon Anthony!
 

Chris Borland Stats - San Francisco 49ers - ESPN

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Put it up on a sticky cause your on

Re: Bottom Line: Jimmy Graham for Max Unger & Stephon Anthony!
 

Whatever happened to Strato and TheOak whilst we are on the subject?

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Key will be this.

Will Jimmy Graham play a full 16 game season not limited by injuries? Ironically something he has not done yet. 13 games as a starter was an all time high for him. I think this was main reason in the trade. saints gambled on his health. I for one will always wonder what kind of numbers he could put up if he did get in a full 16 games with just minor injuries.

Stephone Anthony ?
- was he a reach? sure
-Upside pick? oh yeah no doubt. better risk than SJB in round 2
-would he have been there at 44? highly unlikely. NE at 33 was not that far fetched and many teams inbetween
-Best 34 ILB in the draft? time will tell

Perryman RD2 pick 48 chargers 34 defense

so we will see which is good

Houston jumping us in round 2 made me think they had a good feeling that McKinney may have been our pick in round 2.

Hau'oli Kikaha at 44 IMO he was a bit more of a reach than Anthony. This pick concerns me way more than Anthony pick. This was a big time gamble. injury concerns for me are high

but at 44 both Perryman and Kendricks were on the board.

so here is were i wonder if we may have missed the boat completely not at 31 when talking about Perryman as a pick

For me it was Jake Fisher still on the board at 44

so when figuring a value of the trade i have to include the effect it had on pick 44 big time.

Kendricks RD2 pick 13 vikes 43 defense
Paul Dawson RD3 pick 35 Bengals

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I have to ask why not Curtis Lofton since everyone thought he sucked if he can't beat his production what does that say about Anthony just sayin But i'll go Along with your Chris Borland. Post A Sticky Thread It so its up there for all



But let me be Clear I hope the guy is better than Ray Lewis In Prime .I just don't see him Ever being any better than what we had Cheaper Yeah but Better No

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Looking at the box score Lofton looks great,its the reason he was a fantasy go to for me. Racked up tackles,the fact so many were after the team had gain positive yardage made no difference. Id be happy if Anthony stats are worse so long as he is making the production downfield.


Lofton was terrible in coverage and missed his fair share of tackles.
IMO the 3-4 doesnt suit him

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Hagan...

You're right on that we'll have to see, but based on existing film, interview and workouts Stephone Anthony blew Kendricks, Perryman away...

Jake Fisher? We took Peat and had Armstead and Strief under contract...

Peat is the better talent and is only 21 years of age as well...

The need to select Hau'oli Kikaha or another true 34 OLB was at critical mass in this draft...

If anything, I could argue we should have moved up to get Beasley and taken Fisher in the second round, but even you as well as paid experts and most of the NFL fanbase expected Fisher to go in the first round...

Know I'm usually beating up Sean Mickey for their terrible drafts, but with Ireland in there, I really like what's transpired...

Can't wait to see what the competition does for the OT position...

My best case scenario, Peat beats out Armstead who beats out Strief; Peat at the LT position, Armstead at the RT position and Strief is the best reserve in the league and they all get a ring this year...

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If you expecting a rookie to come out playing like a hall of famer in his prime you going to be disappointed. Chris Borland was a rookie with those stats.

Curtis Lofton was an exceptional linebacker filling the gaps on run plays but was a liability in coverage

I expect in time his production will exceed over Lofton in coming years but not his rookie year. He is going to get majority of the snaps but he will share with Ellderbe or Hawthorne til the coaches can rely and trust he know his playbook

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Those 2 for a beat up TE who disappeared after his injury? I'll take it. Does not hurt that we freed up 10 million in cap space too. You can add Spillers and Browner to this deal too. No way we could of signed them without this trade.

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How about we go off of PFF ratings?

If he ends the season at +4 or better, compared to Lofton's -16 that's a major improvement.

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I'm pretty sure that none of us need stats to determine whether or not he's a successful pick.

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I don't hate the Anthony pick as much as I did right at first, but I still think it was a reach. Regardless, I don't like this whole idea of we should just trust the guys who supposedly know it all. These guys have been pretty awful at drafting for a few years now. They spend more time scouting than you are I, because that's their job, but that doesn't mean they know everything. They make plenty of mistakes and some of us fans aren't as dumb as you and most coaches/GM's seem to think we are.

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What's your other option? Go figure out a way to get a job with a team and draft for them or quit being a fan...

You have to trust in the coaches or stay unhappy the whole season *****ing...

I can pretty much guarantee they know more about scouting and drafting then 99.999% of fans; I never called anyone dumb, it just confuses me how anyone can criticize picks before they actually get in the damn building...

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Here is a quote from respected critic/analyst Charles Davis of Stephone at the Senior bowl ...

"He caught my eye with his ability to run; then he caught my eye with his ability to hit," Davis said Thursday during the NFL Network's coverage of the Senior Bowl. "He's a big-time player. Not many people around the country know enough about him. They're gonna learn quickly about him. He's a heck of a player."

I'm thrilled this kid was selected by the Saints.

Re: Bottom Line: Jimmy Graham for Max Unger & Stephon Anthony!
 

Think I'll take Charles Davis opinion on this one

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Well the Saints have this theory... if he is your guy you get him no matter where you see him on the board and what other people think he should be drafted. You get your guy.

Even they will admit you don't know how these guys will pan out until they start playing in a real tackle NFL game. SP admitted if he knew Colston was going to be the WR he was they would have snagged him in the first round.

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How about I be a fan and have my own opinion? Why do I have to not be a fan just because I don't like a pick? That's way over dramatic, dude.

I don't care what the percentage is of how much more coaches know, or think they know. I have disagreed with plenty of picks in the past and my exact concerns were played out. I'm not always right, either.

There is only so much to analyze about a player. It really isn't rocket science. You hear a lot of coach speak about "fluid hips" or "plays with too much lean" and blah blah. This is how guys shoot up in the combine and do nothing. Guys like Byron Jones, who was not overly productive in college is suddenly a first round talent because he had all the measurables. I look for people who produce at a high level, who don't miss tackles, or drop passes or whatever the case may be depending on the position.

So if I don't agree with a pick there is a reason. Anthony is solid, but not first round material, in my own opinion. If you want to know why people don't automatically trust everything their team does, I can ask you why we are even fans? We don't play for the team, and our cheering, opinions, Saints merchandice, etc. don't help the team win in all actuality. What's in it for us? Do any of us really know? It's an impulse, and a want for entertainment and to feel a part of something that interests us.

When you stop and think about it, it's pretty useless to even care. But we do anyway. So why question people for disagreeing with a pick? I'm not saying you have to agree with my opinion, but I'm puzzled how anyone is confused of why a person would have a dissenting opinion.

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All I can say is then disagree until Anthony starts doing his thing and then crawfish and start cheering him on?!

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I'm going to be cheering him on before he makes his first tackle, because I am a fan, and I give a damn. And if I'm right, are you going to come back to me and tell me so? Will you call for him to be cut? Have you ever complained about players that the Saints signed or drafted, Mitch? I bet you have plenty of times.

Re: Bottom Line: Jimmy Graham for Max Unger & Stephon Anthony!
 

Not before they get on the field; I keep an open mind and want to see them play before I say anything. Because I unlike others understand that even though there may not be much to analyze scouts/coaches have a lot more means to do the analyzing than the few games on tv/youtube us fans have.

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Every year some teams win the draft super bowl....not the real one