Bottom Line: Jimmy Graham for Max Unger & Stephon Anthony!

burningmetal · 05-04-2015, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

All I can say is then disagree until Anthony starts doing his thing and then crawfish and start cheering him on?!

I'm going to be cheering him on before he makes his first tackle, because I am a fan, and I give a damn. And if I'm right, are you going to come back to me and tell me so? Will you call for him to be cut? Have you ever complained about players that the Saints signed or drafted, Mitch? I bet you have plenty of times.

|Mitch| · 05-04-2015, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Have you ever complained about players that the Saints signed or drafted, Mitch? I bet you have plenty of times.

Not before they get on the field; I keep an open mind and want to see them play before I say anything. Because I unlike others understand that even though there may not be much to analyze scouts/coaches have a lot more means to do the analyzing than the few games on tv/youtube us fans have.

burningmetal · 05-04-2015, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Not before they get on the field; I keep an open mind and want to see them play before I say anything. Because I unlike others understand that even though there may not be much to analyze scouts/coaches have a lot more means to do the analyzing than the few games on tv/youtube us fans have.

Somehow I don't believe you on never doubting a move before they played on the field, but I'll just take your word on it for now. These players may not have played for the Saints yet, but we have seen them play. We're not exactly predicting what a baby is gonna do when he/she grows up.

You can watch hundreds of hours of film if you want to. That's when you start to over analyze. What's available for the general public is plenty enough. it's hard to find a game that is not on tv. And if it's on tv, then you can find replays and watch every play. I don't dispute that scouts watch more film than I do, and some of them are very good at what they do. But some over analyze and make huge mistakes on players. I see nothing malicious in pointing that out.

|Mitch| · 05-04-2015, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

What's available for the general public is plenty enough. it's hard to find a game that is not on tv. And if it's on tv, then you can find replays and watch every play. I don't dispute that scouts watch more film than I do, and some of them are very good at what they do. But some over analyze and make huge mistakes on players. I see nothing malicious in pointing that out.

If that was the case, then why would the scouts/coaches even bother with interviewing or holding private workouts, going to pro days, etc...

Wouldn't it be a lot easier just sitting in the office watching the tv games and youtube?

Just remember to err is human nature. I'm not one to think that I can scout and draft better than those who have done it for years and been around the best in doing it

burningmetal · 05-04-2015, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

If that was the case, then why would the scouts/coaches even bother with interviewing or holding private workouts, going to pro days, etc...

Wouldn't it be a lot easier just sitting in the office watching the tv games and youtube?

Just remember to err is human nature. I'm not one to think that I can scout and draft better than those who have done it for years and been around the best in doing it

I'm talking film specific. Interviews are about trying to get to know the guy. How well does that work out? Are they gonna out themselves in an interview? You can get character references from a lot of sources. These guys, as hard as they may try, do not live very private lives.

I don't think I know everything, and I don't even claim to know more than the Saints do about this player. But I know enough to have the opinion that they reached. Sometimes teams go with a gut feeling on a player they he has the ability to fit better and grow more than another player even if he doesn't have a first round grade. That's where reaches happen. Maybe they end up being right. Or maybe they aren't. We'll see, but I simply don't agree with it.

05-04-2015, 08:41 PM	#1
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Bottom Line: Jimmy Graham for Max Unger & Stephon Anthony! Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| All I can say is then disagree until Anthony starts doing his thing and then crawfish and start cheering him on?! I'm going to be cheering him on before he makes his first tackle, because I am a fan, and I give a damn. And if I'm right, are you going to come back to me and tell me so? Will you call for him to be cut? Have you ever complained about players that the Saints signed or drafted, Mitch? I bet you have plenty of times.

05-04-2015, 08:47 PM	#2
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Bottom Line: Jimmy Graham for Max Unger & Stephon Anthony! Originally Posted by burningmetal Have you ever complained about players that the Saints signed or drafted, Mitch? I bet you have plenty of times. Not before they get on the field; I keep an open mind and want to see them play before I say anything. Because I unlike others understand that even though there may not be much to analyze scouts/coaches have a lot more means to do the analyzing than the few games on tv/youtube us fans have.

05-04-2015, 08:58 PM	#3
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Bottom Line: Jimmy Graham for Max Unger & Stephon Anthony! Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Not before they get on the field; I keep an open mind and want to see them play before I say anything. Because I unlike others understand that even though there may not be much to analyze scouts/coaches have a lot more means to do the analyzing than the few games on tv/youtube us fans have. Somehow I don't believe you on never doubting a move before they played on the field, but I'll just take your word on it for now. These players may not have played for the Saints yet, but we have seen them play. We're not exactly predicting what a baby is gonna do when he/she grows up. You can watch hundreds of hours of film if you want to. That's when you start to over analyze. What's available for the general public is plenty enough. it's hard to find a game that is not on tv. And if it's on tv, then you can find replays and watch every play. I don't dispute that scouts watch more film than I do, and some of them are very good at what they do. But some over analyze and make huge mistakes on players. I see nothing malicious in pointing that out.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

05-04-2015, 09:03 PM	#4
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Bottom Line: Jimmy Graham for Max Unger & Stephon Anthony! Originally Posted by burningmetal What's available for the general public is plenty enough. it's hard to find a game that is not on tv. And if it's on tv, then you can find replays and watch every play. I don't dispute that scouts watch more film than I do, and some of them are very good at what they do. But some over analyze and make huge mistakes on players. I see nothing malicious in pointing that out. If that was the case, then why would the scouts/coaches even bother with interviewing or holding private workouts, going to pro days, etc... Wouldn't it be a lot easier just sitting in the office watching the tv games and youtube? Just remember to err is human nature. I'm not one to think that I can scout and draft better than those who have done it for years and been around the best in doing it

05-04-2015, 09:09 PM	#5
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Bottom Line: Jimmy Graham for Max Unger & Stephon Anthony! Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| If that was the case, then why would the scouts/coaches even bother with interviewing or holding private workouts, going to pro days, etc... Wouldn't it be a lot easier just sitting in the office watching the tv games and youtube? Just remember to err is human nature. I'm not one to think that I can scout and draft better than those who have done it for years and been around the best in doing it I'm talking film specific. Interviews are about trying to get to know the guy. How well does that work out? Are they gonna out themselves in an interview? You can get character references from a lot of sources. These guys, as hard as they may try, do not live very private lives. I don't think I know everything, and I don't even claim to know more than the Saints do about this player. But I know enough to have the opinion that they reached. Sometimes teams go with a gut feeling on a player they he has the ability to fit better and grow more than another player even if he doesn't have a first round grade. That's where reaches happen. Maybe they end up being right. Or maybe they aren't. We'll see, but I simply don't agree with it.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

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