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He might not have solely picked the groceries, but Rob Ryan believes he has the ingredients
this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Maybe Rob picking the groceries was the problem... that is a good point. lets see who makes the team this year but still 8 games of solid defense in the time rob has been here does ...
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05-18-2015, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976
that is a good point. lets see who makes the team this year
but still 8 games of solid defense in the time rob has been here does not sit well with me. i am still not a fan. lack of adjustment and bad play calling at the end of the game is still his MO and that has not changed. remember do not trust the media or the kool aid they are serving. |
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05-18-2015, 09:06 AM
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Re: He might not have solely picked the groceries, but Rob Ryan believes he has the ingredients
IMO, Ryan is an X's & O'x guy. And not much more than that.
Not so much a talent evaluator (hello, Jeff Ireland) Not so much a coach (hello, Dennis Allen) But by taking some of the pressure off Ryan (as in too much responsibility), he can concentrate on scheme and game plans. |
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05-18-2015, 09:43 AM
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Re: He might not have solely picked the groceries, but Rob Ryan believes he has the ingredients
Originally Posted by saintsfan1976
But he didn't pick P-Rob, White, Martez Wilson, Johnny Patrick, Romeus, Bussey, Arnoux, Vaughn, Woods, Pressley etc...
Doesn't really look like he was the problem. Most likely the problem was the head of College scouting, Rick Reiprish, whom we fired. |
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05-18-2015, 12:30 PM
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Re: He might not have solely picked the groceries, but Rob Ryan believes he has the ingredients
Originally Posted by Danno
Yes, our draft history is pretty ugly.
But Ryan also had the best season of his career with players we already had in house. Then we fall apart in 2014. Most of the issue was due to injury IMO but I wonder who had the most influence in drafting players like Powell, Fortt and SJB... |
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05-18-2015, 12:38 PM
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Re: He might not have solely picked the groceries, but Rob Ryan believes he has the ingredients
Well Ryan has been with us since 2013 and the defensive selections have been:
2013 Kenny Vaccaro John Jenkins Kharri Fortt Vinnie Sunseri Ronald Powell Rufus Johnson 2014 Stanley Jean-Baptiste Khairi Fortt Vinnie Sunseri Ronald Powell I'd sure like to know how the Saints scout, grade, rate and select picks... While you can't hang all the defensive woes on Ryan, I sure don't like crawfishing... Coach Payton sets the tone with his attitude - these are the guys and it's up to us coaches to get it done... That's what Ryan should have been saying is the point... |
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05-18-2015, 06:04 PM
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Re: He might not have solely picked the groceries, but Rob Ryan believes he has the ingredients
Originally Posted by jeanpierre
Sorry I can hang all the excuses Rob as BS.
If you want to see what a good DC does under adverse condition look no further than the job Todd Bowles did with cards in 2013 and 2014. Lost players injuried players, you name it. He did not bat an eye. his players stepped up. he adjusted and moved forward. Rob is not that type of coach. no were near that type of coach. Todd was higher on my list than Rob in 2013 yes this is comparing apples to oranges. Bowls was never a DC before being hired by the Cards. so he did not have the experience of Rob. So far Rob has been exactly what he was pegged to be. so lets see if he finally learned his lesson and learns to be a motivator of men. |
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05-18-2015, 06:10 PM
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Re: He might not have solely picked the groceries, but Rob Ryan believes he has the ingredients
Can any one of you point to where Rob Ryan was crawfishing?
Or where he actually provided a quote that gave him "a way out"? I'm pretty sure Mickey and Sean know exactly how much input Rob had. |
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05-18-2015, 06:56 PM
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Re: He might not have solely picked the groceries, but Rob Ryan believes he has the ingredients
Originally Posted by jeanpierre
Don't get this one. Byrd missed some games in 2009 with a groin injury, but had missed no time until this past season. His off-season back surgery had nothing to do with injury. It was done to correct a condition that created a narrow spine chamber. It was a very common procedure to enlarge the opening which would prevent possible future issues.
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05-18-2015, 08:30 PM
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Re: He might not have solely picked the groceries, but Rob Ryan believes he has the ingredients
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
And the injury thing will be a myth repeated over and over again, just like Strief being a poor RT.
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05-18-2015, 09:19 PM
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Re: He might not have solely picked the groceries, but Rob Ryan believes he has the ingredients
Originally Posted by Danno
These types of uninformed statements help informed members spot lack of credibility, but it unfortunately spreads these fallacies to those members who either have no time to research themselves or are to lazy to do the same.
In other words, don't believe everything you read, especially in here when stated without factual support. 
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