at this point what do we do with carney
 

at some point we have to replace him. how long do we wait. the guy has beeen pretty clutch minus some mistakes but for the most part he has been clutch. but at some point we have to replace him. how long do we wait. where do we go. looking at you guys ideas

at this point what do we do with carney
 

He\'s no longer consistent and he can\'t kick the ball into the end zone. Not to mention we play in a dome and he can do neither. Draft Nugent, he\'s a stud at kicker. If Janikowski can we drafted in the first round, I can\'t see why this guy couldn\'t. Just not in the first round for us, maybe second.

at this point what do we do with carney
 

I agree with drafting a kicker at some point. Carney is definitely on the downside.

at this point what do we do with carney
 

i agree with both of you guysd. i love carney but he is past his prime obviously and has to go

at this point what do we do with carney
 

How soon should he go? I was worried about him kicking off the new turf but he seemed to adjust to that pretty well. Obviously, every year he\'ll lose a little something. I\'m just not sure this is the year to give up a clutch kicker for a rookie.

As far as kickoffs, isn\'t that Mitch\'s job?

Side note: I said \"clutch kicker\" above and then thought \"and that\'s the same guy who missed an extra point in a critical situation.\" I might need to redifine something here.

at this point what do we do with carney
 

no i wouldnt let him go for a rookie. but im not sure of what the answer is. we have to do something. i wouldnt like to see him go but he has to at some point and i think you have to make the decision at some point. maybe this year is the time

at this point what do we do with carney
 

I still remember many games in which Carney did the kickoffs, and it wasn\'t even close.

at this point what do we do with carney
 

Maybe we should use our first round pick and draft a kicker...like we did several years ago when we drafted Erxleben. (Sarcasm, for those who can\'t tell)

Russell Erxleben, kicker/punter from Texas, had an opportunity to beat the 49ers with seconds left to go in the in his very first professional game...I think. Yeah, I am an old man, and I am just tring to go by memory...and it is fading. Anyway, he missed a kick that wan\'t much longer than an extra point...wide right. The whole city was in an uproar, having given up a first round pick for this. He was so dejected that he decided to take his life later that evening, so, he loaded his gun, pointed it at his head and pulled the trigger. Again, he missed...wide right.

at this point what do we do with carney
 

It\'s hard to laugh at that story....but I am anyway.

I think I\'ll go wide right if we draft a kicker in round one. :mic1:

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No one said we need to draft a kicker in round one...

Was kind of funny in a pathetic twisted way...

at this point what do we do with carney
 

The Kicker is the least of my worries at this point..He will do as good as anyone we could draft..probably much better infact...

The River City relay ,as it is known as now...was a frreak accident..how the hell do you miss an extra point that would send your team to the playoffs?

Truth is..you shouldn\'t have to rely on your kicker to get you into the playoffs..but..He\'s going to be taking heat for that miss for the rest of his life...

at this point what do we do with carney
 

True because DEFENSE wins championships...

But just remember Baltimore when they won it, solid defense and a kicker who kicked like 5 field goals a game. :exclam: Too bad we have neither. :(

at this point what do we do with carney
 

i was hoping to see carney replaced at the beginning of this year, he\'s too old

i honestly believe that he will cost at least two games next year if we don\'t find someone else

problem is kickers are in short supply, SF has been looking for like 5 years, SD\'s rookie blew it for them, NYJ might be looking after their K cost them an AFC champ berth, KC will be looking to replace anderson who no longer has any kind distance, TB and lot of other teams need K\'s too

i don\'t like the idea of drafting one to start this year but when need to do something

at this point what do we do with carney
 

And he should take the heat for the rest of his life. My thing is, the extra point is a mandatory make for a kicker - he has no business even coming close to missing. On the other side, a field goal, especially at the end of a game to win or tie, is just a consequence of an offense\'s failure and the kicker shouldn\'t be entirely to blame for the loss if he misses. Even so, it is his job to make field goals so a kicker would deserve a little grief for missing any field goal except the abnormally long ones.

at this point what do we do with carney
 

I believe Carney is a betting man.

at this point what do we do with carney
 

Hope to see him one more year, after that we really will have to find a new kicker, I don\'t think that we can afford to draft a kicker this season in any round though,

at this point what do we do with carney
 

The time is now...we do not need to get into a big game next year and the same thing happens to us that happened to the Jets. Yes Carney is better than O\'Choker i mean O\'Brien, but the time is now. Nugent will be gone in the second and we do not need to draft a kicker that high. Maybe the Ole miss kid Nichols in the 4th or 5th. Possibly Martin Gramatica?

at this point what do we do with carney
 

I would not be opposed to seeing Nichols in Saint uniform. Of course, I am a big Ole Miss fan, so I may be a little biased, but the kid did have a good career there. The only thing that would worry me about him is whether he can kick under pressure. I can\'t help but remember the two kicks he missed two years ago against LSU that kept Ole Miss out of the SEC championship game, and allowed LSU to go on to the national championship game. I think he definitely would deserve a chance somewhere, at least in preseason, and then see how it goes from there. He has a strong leg. Gramatica, however, I could live without. I know this sounds kinda dumb, but, it was hard enough having to look at his mug two times a year...having to see it every game might be a bit unbearable. :bugeyes:

at this point what do we do with carney
 

Hey Guys What about Morten Anderson???? Man was that a huge sains Blunder... He could still be the mainstay here..... But you could say he is done cause of his age, loosing a step... Blah Blah, isn\'t that what the saints said nearly a decade ago....... LOL


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But,...... I digress I think keep carney bring in some soccer kicker, and train him, or trade for a decent replacement NEXT year if carney isn\'t getting the Job done...... :flush:

at this point what do we do with carney
 

That\'s what you get when you let kuhurich run things. I still laugh everytime his name is mentioned for a GM or high-ranking team position. Doesn\'t taking a well built Jim Finks team and turning them into a pathetic bunch of diddly pooh in 2 -3 years indicate this fellow aint worth his salt?