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hagan714 05-29-2015 07:29 PM

Jean-Baptiste is looking to make an impact
 
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After a bumpy rookie year, Stanley Jean-Baptiste is looking to make an impact in his second season with the Saints


Stanley Jean-Baptiste was unaware of the two reporters lurking by his locker.
He got dressed, made a phone call, and worked his way through a conversation, never expecting an interview request. It wasn’t until a member of the New Orleans Saints public relations staff informed him that he finally looked up and happily obliged.

Baptiste wasn’t disturbed by reporters often last season. As packs of people gathered around Kenny Vaccaro or Keenan Lewis’ stalls in that corner of the locker room, Jean-Baptiste was mostly left alone.

That’s just the way his rookie season unfolded. The second-round pick was inactive for most games. Out of sight, out of mind. Now, though, Jean-Baptiste is ready to take the stage.

The mental bumps and bruises and lessons of his first season now absorbed, he believes he’s positioned himself to earn snaps and find a way to contribute during his second season.

http://theadvocate.com/csp/mediapool...YPE=image/jpegAdvocate staff photo by MATTHEW HINTON--New Orleans Saints cornerback Stanley Jean-Baptiste (23) practices in Metairie, La. Thursday, May 28, 2015.
Nick Underhill| nunderhill@theadvocate.com

“I’m real comfortable now, so we’re going to see how it works out,” Jean-Baptiste said. “I’m just more relaxed. Better understanding of the playbook.”

The understand is the biggest development for Jean-Baptiste. He openly admits he didn’t understand what was going on at times last season — both on the field and his role on them.

He didn’t understand why he wasn’t on the field. and no one ever explained to him that he was going to basically redshirt as a rookie and wait his turn. So, he worked behind the scenes and tried to find ways to get better.

“It was hard. I wanted to play — everybody wants to play — but at the same time. I didn’t know what the coaches were doing, but I understand it,” Jean-Baptiste said. “They got plans for me. I’m just here to be a part of the team and help out any way I can.”

Things feel different now. Jean-Baptiste seems comfortable with his place on the team and with the information he’s being asked to process. There were times last year when he struggled to pick things up.

It helps that the team has trimmed down the playbook and tossed out some of the concepts that did not work last season, but Jean-Baptiste says he feels like he’s better able to absorb information and understand what’s going on. His teammates have noticed the difference and believe he’s playing with more confidence.

After a bumpy rookie year, Stanley Jean-Baptiste is looking to make an impact in his second season with the Saints | Saints | The New Orleans Advocate — New Orleans, Louisiana

hagan714 05-29-2015 07:35 PM

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The first part was the same ol same ol. let your play do the talking

but this part almost made me jump for joy.

It helps that the team has trimmed down the playbook and tossed out some of the concepts that did not work last season, but Jean-Baptiste says he feels like he’s better able to absorb information and understand what’s going on. His teammates have noticed the difference and believe he’s playing with more confidence.

Did cerebral Rob Ryan get a wake up call? :doh:
Is the Dennis effect once again felt? :bng:
Or did Dennis knock some common sense into him?:nutkick:

this is the biggest news I have heard all off season.

:broccoli:

brees84 05-29-2015 07:51 PM

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You should watch Cam Jordan video from yesterday. Said some interesting things about playbook. I can see us play solid defense again.

hagan714 05-29-2015 08:02 PM

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Cam Jordan talks about the 2015 season

Foot Stomper 05-29-2015 08:57 PM

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Yes by all means throw out stuff that didn't work. But I have to wonder why it took a full offseason, preseason and regular season to determine stuff wasn't working? I like Rob Ryan alot and he seems like the kind of guy that would recognize this early and further I think players could tell him hey Coach what is it you want?? Just shaking my head at this everytime I have read that we have schemes and concepts that didn't work but evidently kept trying to make them work.

Beastmode 05-29-2015 10:50 PM

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We had a defensive playbook?

FinSaint 05-30-2015 02:38 AM

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It just seems like a big mismanagement by the team if they kept their 2nd round pick in the dark like that.

Hopefully we'll see that high upside come into fruition this season.

Crusader 05-30-2015 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 656717)

Wery well spoken and kinda funny. I always like his interviews.

halloween 65 05-30-2015 09:03 AM

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I surely liked Baptiste in college. If he gets confident he is going to suprize alot of people. Redshirting him might have been a good move.

FinSaint 05-30-2015 09:11 AM

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Transitioning from a WR to a CB isn't easy on its own - I imagine - and adding to that a complex playbook to learn and getting used to the speed of the NFL... no wonder he had problems.

the-commish 05-30-2015 09:21 AM

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SJB wil be competing against Keenan Lewis, Brandon Browner, and former CFL standout (and NOLA native) Delvin Breaux for playing time on the outside. Really only Delvin Breaux and Brandon Browner, since Lewis, barring injury, has the starting job on one side all but locked up. Swann and P.J. Williams will likely compete as nickel corners... and IMHO Dixon, unless he shows real brilliance in TC, is the odd man out here.

ScottF 05-30-2015 09:43 AM

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He is 50-50 to even make the team. Sad but true.

Danno 05-30-2015 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 656743)
He is 50-50 to even make the team. Sad but true.

Agree. We'll keep at most 6 CB's, and maybe only 5 since we have some safeties that can play NB

Locks
Lewis
Browner
PJ Williams

Fighting for the next 2 or 3 spots

1. Delvin Breaux
2. Kyle Wilson
3. Brian Dixon
4. Terrence Frederick
5. Stanley Jean-Baptiste
6. Damian Swann
7. AJ Davis

Based on the very little we know now, SJB may be on the outside looking in. In fact Swann may even be above SJB since he's versatile, athletic and from all accounts an on-field coach.

We're probably gonna cut a couple CB's that can play in this league.

the-commish 05-30-2015 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 656748)
Agree. We'll keep at most 6 CB's, and maybe only 5 since we have some safeties that can play NB

Locks
Lewis
Browner
PJ Williams

Fighting for the next 2 or 3 spots
1. Delvin Breaux
2. Kyle Wilson
3. Brian Dixon
4. Terrence Frederick
5. Stanley Jean-Baptiste
6. Damian Swann
7. AJ Davis

Based on the very little we know now, SJB may be on the outside looking in. In fact Swann may even be above SJB since he's versatile, athletic and from all accounts an on-field coach.

We're probably gonna cut a couple CB's that can play in this league.

Delvin Breaux should make it as a boundary corner, assuming his game translates from the CFL to the NFL... and I think it will. P.J. Williams should have been drafted earlier. And the Saints traded up for Damian Swann, so they obviously saw something in him. I think they keep 6 CBs, with SJB being one of them if he shows anything at all (they will give the former 2nd rounder every chance to show his skills). Brian Dixon, AJ Davis, and Terrence Frederick probably will be let go... and either P.J. Williams or Damian Swann will wind up on the PS, the other will make the final 53.

Of course, all of this could change during TC.

hagan714 05-30-2015 11:21 AM

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7 CB's? i say we are going to see less of that 3 safety looks

5 Locks
Lewis
Browner
PJ Williams

6. Damian Swann - The CB that will reduce the number of safeties we keep is

5. Stanley Jean-Baptiste - saints do not give up on draft picks from round 3 and up to a fault at times

Fight for the last spot maybe two Swann is solid at safety also. special teams?

1. Delvin Breaux local inside favorite for sure and like Swann is no stranger to safety
4. Terrence Frederick
7. AJ Davis

LONGGGGGGGGGGG SHOTSSSSSSSSSS
2. Kyle Wilson - he aint all that. he needs a miracle turn round
3. Brian Dixon - instincts were about as bad as i have seen. worse than SJB. SJB appears to be a book issue.

Rugby Saint II 05-30-2015 01:10 PM

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I just can't believe that we will cut starting caliber players. Last year we had one good CB. Soon the waiver wire will be littered with our cast offs who will go to another team and get playing time. Wow. What a difference a year makes.

ScottF 05-30-2015 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 656750)
7 CB's? i say we are going to see less of that 3 safety looks

5 Locks
Lewis
Browner
PJ Williams

6. Damian Swann - The CB that will reduce the number of safeties we keep is

5. Stanley Jean-Baptiste - saints do not give up on draft picks from round 3 and up to a fault at times

Fight for the last spot maybe two Swann is solid at safety also. special teams?

1. Delvin Breaux local inside favorite for sure and like Swann is no stranger to safety
4. Terrence Frederick
7. AJ Davis

LONGGGGGGGGGGG SHOTSSSSSSSSSS
2. Kyle Wilson - he aint all that. he needs a miracle turn round
3. Brian Dixon - instincts were about as bad as i have seen. worse than SJB. SJB appears to be a book issue.

I think the coaching staff feels differently about Dixon. Plus he played well on ST
and not to bring up the 'should we have tanked against Tampa' debate again, but I do know SJB should have been in the lineup that day:
total plays for the year for SJB: thirty-eight, and 30 of those were ST. How bad must you be in practice to only see 8 snaps all year?

spkb25 05-30-2015 03:16 PM

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sounds like it was too complicated, and sounds about right by how lost everyone was

saintfan 05-30-2015 05:13 PM

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Wait for camp fellers. Wait for camp.

hagan714 05-31-2015 05:34 AM

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4 weeks into the season we should have a good idea were we stand.

Cruize 05-31-2015 08:18 AM

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Hopefully the CB's playing 15 yards off has been thrown out. I personally loved SJB coming out of college. Maybe he can see the field this year.

saintsfan1976 05-31-2015 09:22 AM

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Make an impact??

He better focus on making the roster!

brees84 05-31-2015 10:14 AM

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I'd rather keep Warren (yes another safety but talent is off the charts) and cut SJB.

SmashMouth 05-31-2015 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 656769)
Wait for camp fellers. Wait for camp.

Well said... a little premature jizzing going on here. :broccoli:

Seer1 05-31-2015 06:29 PM

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He didn't understand what was going on and I didn't understand why we'd use a second round pick on him. I'm starting to see a pattern here....

Foot Stomper 05-31-2015 07:07 PM

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For the #58 overall drafted player last year I would say he is <50/50 to make the roster. There should be no more doubts why we have overhauled scouting.

Stanley Jean-Baptiste vs Michigan (2013) | Draft Breakdown

Notice at 1:58 and then a few more all world plays at 2:56 and 4:50.

AllSaints 06-01-2015 07:31 AM

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In preseason last year he wasnt terrible... he was a rookie... For a second round pick I surely hope he can make a impact... plus his names too cool to not be a Saint....

K Major 06-01-2015 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Foot Stomper (Post 656842)
For the #58 overall drafted player last year I would say he is <50/50 to make the roster. There should be no more doubts why we have overhauled scouting.

Stanley Jean-Baptiste vs Michigan (2013) | Draft Breakdown

Notice at 1:58 and then a few more all world plays at 2:56 and 4:50.

I stopped watching after the 3 minute mark. Not exactly the best film work of SJB that is for sure. With all of the incoming talent/draft picks at the position, it will be tough sledding to secure a roster spot.

Crusader 06-01-2015 07:38 AM

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I hope Allen can help make a player out of him. He has a bunch of physical tools.

Foot Stomper 06-01-2015 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 656859)
I stopped watching after the 3 minute mark. Not exactly the best film work of SJB that is for sure. With all of the incoming talent/draft picks at the position, it will be tough sledding to secure a roster spot.

Being punked by the QB at the 3:00 mark was embarrassing for a guy whose biggest attribute is size.

I am calling it now. We blew a 2nd round pick on this project.

Seer1 06-01-2015 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 656859)
I stopped watching after the 3 minute mark. Not exactly the best film work of SJB that is for sure. With all of the incoming talent/draft picks at the position, it will be tough sledding to secure a roster spot.

Had the chance to watch him in the B1G and unfortunately, this is a lot of his best film work. He looked great against mediocre passing teams, but using a second round pick for him was fueled purely by optimism..... A whole bunch-o-optimism.

alleycat_126 06-01-2015 04:54 PM

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Two things jump right out to me when I read this..... 1. Brandon Coleman, and Stanley Jean Baptiste are basically the same guy draft wise so why did we waste a second round pick on him ( of course they may be proven right but that remains to be seen) ...... It comes off as a total mismanagement of last years draft if SJB doesn't make this team. I do think he will make the team, and make an impact... But I can't lie last years draft was a complete and utter disaster......

2. He's doing better with a trimmed down playbook, are they trying to say he was slow? He graduated from Nebraska, seems like a smart guy. IJS?

K Major 06-01-2015 09:17 PM

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Browner can also teach as well. If SJB can be a contributor to our D, I want him around. Learn your playbook.

Let Dennis Allen work with this kid before we write him off :).

QBREES9 06-01-2015 10:13 PM

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Jean-Baptiste is looking to make an impact. So are we.

the-commish 06-02-2015 07:00 AM

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SJB is also older than your average rookie (now second year player). That alone gives him less time to learn the nuances of playing outside press coverage in the NFL. Since the team is not going to play exclusively press, he also has to learn off man and any zone coverage schemes Ryan might choose to employ depending on the situation.

halloween 65 06-02-2015 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 656922)
Browner can also teach as well. If SJB can be a contributor to our D, I want him around. Learn your playbook.

Let Dennis Allen work with this kid before we write him off :).

I agree with you. Allen will bring it out and Browner will help.

Rell&Gold 06-02-2015 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 656816)
Well said... a little premature jizzing going on here. :broccoli:

Lls, real quick triggers

hagan714 06-02-2015 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by alleycat_126 (Post 656904)
Two things jump right out to me when I read this..... 1. Brandon Coleman, and Stanley Jean Baptiste are basically the same guy draft wise so why did we waste a second round pick on him ( of course they may be proven right but that remains to be seen) ...... It comes off as a total mismanagement of last years draft if SJB doesn't make this team. I do think he will make the team, and make an impact... But I can't lie last years draft was a complete and utter disaster......

we will see the saints will keep both

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Originally Posted by alleycat_126 (Post 656904)
2. He's doing better with a trimmed down playbook, are they trying to say he was slow? He graduated from Nebraska, seems like a smart guy. IJS?

that or what does it say about Rob Ryan. this is a repeated story every where Rob has coached. Maybe Rob is light years ahead of times or maybe he is just a flake.

Myself i am just going to sit back watch and hope for the best. banking on the Allen effect.

jeanpierre 06-03-2015 06:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by the-commish (Post 656933)
SJB is also older than your average rookie (now second year player). That alone gives him less time to learn the nuances of playing outside press coverage in the NFL. Since the team is not going to play exclusively press, he also has to learn off man and any zone coverage schemes Ryan might choose to employ depending on the situation.

Great, great point...

Really would like to have seen the decision-making that went into selecting this guy in the second round...


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