Haslett faces tough off-season
 

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Haslett faces tough off-season
 

Thanks. Add to ego maniac a fragile psyche. So not only must he believe he is great, someone must constantly tell him so and McCarthy is gone. Don\'t they have pills for that?

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You forgot about this saintwhodi:

In spite of what some fans (insert saintwhodi here) think!!

saintwhodi --

You seem to be the only person in the world who thinks we have top 5 talent across the board on offense. At least that\'s what you indicate in just about every thread.

Just plug in ANY other QB and we\'ll be on our way to the playoffs. That\'s what he says.

Hmmmmmmmm...........





[Edited on 31/1/2005 by GumboBC]

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gumbo--throw in most other QB\'s who are atleast consistent and we would have made the playoffs..esp. with the last four game streak.

look at pittsburgh-in no way is that line up much better on paper than the saints..and their QB aint\' montana...

we should have been in and the rams should have been o ut.

every year-the same story. it\'s time to change the one thing that hasn\'t been changed-the QB. I\'ll take herbert back over the way brooks has played the last couple of years.

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That says PERSONNEL, it does not say Saints don\'t have top shelf offensive talent. Way to over-react to a quote. Misinterpretation is your middle name though. Could personnel mean defense, coaches, front office what? PERSONNEL could mean anything. I never said we have top 5 talent int he current NFL, I said we have the BEST TALENT IN OUR TEAM\'S HISTORY. See the difference? No probably not.

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which is true-on paper..but I\'ll take swilling., mills and herbert back over this defense and brooks...based solely on play.

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Offensive talent in team history is the key baron. There is no question Mora\'s teams had the best defenses.

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Did you even read that quote?

If ya did, then surly you can see the writer is talking about \"offensive\" talent.

Take a look at it again...


It\'s talking about McCarthy. And it says McCarthy isn\'t a top shelf OC but he doesn\'t have the talent on offense to be a top shelf OC.

I spend half my time on here trying to straighten you out, saintwhodi...;)

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Again, show me this line from your intepretation in that article.

Maybe if you spent the time you did attempting to straighten me out actually reading what you are arguing, it would save us all a lot of time. If he meant offensive talent, I am sure he can say it. But he didn\'t, he said personnel, and not even simply OFFENSIVE PERSONNEL. Sorry, try again. ;)

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Okay, the writer was saying McCarthy wasn\'t a top flight OC because he didn\'t have the personnel on defense to make it a top flight offense.

That sounds like something you would say. Oh, it was you who said it. I forgot... ;)

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Again, I read what is there, and not read my own intepretation into anything. Since we are inferring, maybe he is saying the defensive personnel hampered McCarthy\'s offense by not being able to keep the score down while they blew first quarter after first quarter, who knows. But like I said, we can save a lot of time if you read WHAT IS THERE, and push off WHAT YOU INFER as fact.

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Really?

Really?

Since when?

Was it when you said that Brooks said his team SUCKS? Or was that just you own interpetation? Must have been since Brooks NEVER said it.

Or was it when you said Brooks was an ego-manic? Whose interpetation was that? Hmmmm..

Need I say more?

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Must be a hive mentality, since I am not the only one who has said THOSE EXACT SAME THINGS. Maybe you are the only one who inteprets things YOUR WAY. I a, sure you have read numerous others here call AB an ego maniac. Do they mis-interpret as well?

And I don\'t know about you, but placing myself above a team by saying I am great, and calling them inconsistent and struggling does not scream \"Hey I am behing you guys 100%.\" But of course, that\'s what you got out of it. ;)

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I see QBs calling out their teammates all the time. I see runningbacks calling out their offensive lines. I see receivers calling out their QB all the time.

I see players calling out their coaches all the time.

I see players blaming the media all the time.

I see coaches calling out their players all the time.

And you do to. You just don\'t bring it up because its not Aaron Brooks.

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Show me. You mean TO? Backs it up on the field. Anyone else you care to show me? I wouldn\'t mind it if Brooks WAS great or if he had done ANYTHING in his career. He HAS NOT, in case you didn\'t know, so I have a problem with it. You skated on this before but man up now, show me another example of a player in the NFL calling himself great when he isn\'t and calling his team inconsistent and struggling. I will be quite interested to see it, since you knwo it happens so much. SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!

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The Saints don\'t have top 5 talent across the board?

No, but it\'s a lot closer than this author, and not surprisingly, Billy, would like to think.

Joe Horn has PRODUCED top 5 results at his position for 5 straight years. Go look it up. We have a first round draft pick playing across from him. Deuce and Karney are solid to say the least. Karney plays his role and Deuce, though he has been concerningly less productive of recent, is a top five, maybe ten, TALENT. Our TEs, as disappointing as they may be, are top 10 also. If you disagree, name 10 other teams with TWO TEs better than ours. LeCharles Bentley is a legitimate Pro Bowl talent, and the interior line is above average. There are, IMO, four major problems with the offense. Two are a direct result of the coach. 1) Poor game planning and play calling. 2) No dscipline. The other two are \"talent\" problems. 3) Our tackles are flat bad. 4) Our QB is maybe the most inconsistent in the NFL. Keep in mind that inconsistent does not mean bad - it means varying by a great degree. I\'m not saying AB is terrible, though he certainly isn\'t great either. The point is - if you look at the numbers week to week, you\'ll see his AVERAGE QB rating is around 80-85, but his weekly numbers are more like 100, 60, 95, 63, 89, 74.... Up, down, up, down. As we all know, if we watched the games, the same holds true quarter to quarter in-game.

In any case, let\'s not start suggesting all of a sudden that this offense isn\'t really that good. It is, or at least it should be. The talent IS THERE. I think, with the exception of LB, the same holds true on D. Now we need COACHES who can turn TALENT into RESULTS.

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Come on Gumbo, put up or shetup time. Since I know you use NO facts when disagreeing, I am sure you will have a hard time finding anything. I can find Brooks\' comments readily, I just have to scroll back on this board. I am waiting.

:popcorn:

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:read:

[Edited on 31/1/2005 by saintswhodi]

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Ah - it\'s that old trick again, huh?

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Yeah, but I deleted it since some may not have caught on to this trick yet. I want them to get that for themselves. :D

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does that make it right?

common man-we learned to counteract that in kindergarten..plus those teams don\'t win..it\'s the teams that play as a team that win..look at the two teams in the superbowl-the most CONSISTENT and they play as a team.

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WhoDat--

Ahhhhhhh.... a worthy opponent. Well, almost..
;)

It\'s statements like this from WhoDat that skew things:

So what if Donte is a 1st round pick. What difference does that make. The Chargers had the #1 pick in the draft with Ryan Leaf. Lot of good that did.

Not to say Donte is a bust like Leaf, but why not talk about Donte\'s performace rather than his draft status. Makes ABSOULUTELY no sense to me.

And then there\'s this statement, WhoDat:

You say our TE are very disappointing but we have a pair of top 10 TEs. I\'ll tell ya what.. I\'ll trade ALL of our TE for ONE above average one.

But it you want to play that \"game\", WhoDat. List 10 teams who have 2 worse tightends than us?

I stand by my evaluation of the offense. Loads of potential that hasn\'t done a whole lot.

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gator, that was the funniest smilie ever. I missed that one but I sure could have used it, A LOT.

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10 Teams with tight ends worse than ours:

Washington
Detroit
Carolina
Tampa Bay
Chicago
Cincinatti
Cleveland (and DO NOT use Kellen Winslow as an argument....he didn\'t play all year)
Jacksonville
Tennesee
St. Louis

Use any stats you want, but there are 10 teams right now that I\'d take our two TE\'s over any day.

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You should be flogged with a dead fish for resurrecting this thread.

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LOL....sorry, B-n-B....Been away for a while, so I\'m trying to catch up a bit....flog away, but just keep it all to a minimum. ;)