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B_Dub_Saint 06-21-2015 10:32 AM

Re: 2013 video emerges of Saints' Junior Galette striking woman with belt; NFL aware
 
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 658465)
Give me 18 sacks this year and we can sweep this under the rug Gallette.

Really dude? This goes way beyond football. I bet if that was your mother or your sister getting smacked up with a belt you wouldn't be saying that. Think about it.

rezburna 06-21-2015 10:54 AM

Re: 2013 video emerges of Saints' Junior Galette striking woman with belt; NFL aware
 
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Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint (Post 658466)
Really dude? This goes way beyond football. I bet if that was your mother or your sister getting smacked up with a belt you wouldn't be saying that. Think about it.

But it's not. He didn't kill her. She'll be alright.

18 sacks later the consensus would be "I can't stand the guy off the field, but he's a beast at what he does on it." Nobody will care anymore.

brees84 06-21-2015 11:01 AM

Re: 2013 video emerges of Saints' Junior Galette striking woman with belt; NFL aware
 
locker room sign: Beat them up, but don't kill 'em

perfect lol...

frydaddy 06-21-2015 11:39 AM

Re: 2013 video emerges of Saints' Junior Galette striking woman with belt; NFL aware
 
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 658468)
But it's not. He didn't kill her. She'll be alright.

18 sacks later the consensus would be "I can't stand the guy off the field, but he's a beast at what he does on it." Nobody will care anymore.

Were this the only questionable thing he was linked to, I could possibly see that being the case... even then, with it being a woman, I still doubt it. Just ask Ray Rice and Greg Hardy. Add in the fact that this is the THIRD time in ONE offseason that he's in the news for the wrong reasons. I hope it really isn't him.. sure looks a hell of a lot like him though.. and if it is then I hope we cut his ass faster than he can get on social media and make it worse by opening his mouth.

RaginCajun83 06-21-2015 11:50 AM

Re: 2013 video emerges of Saints' Junior Galette striking woman with belt; NFL aware
 
It's been proven its him, this deal was so dumb by Loomis that now they have to hope the NFL will help them get rid of this cancer. Let this be a lesson to as why Loomis normally waits until a players deal is up before he resigns them. Now only hope is that Galette broke a clause in his contract so his cap hit goes away and then the team can him just go away.

RaginCajun83 06-21-2015 11:52 AM

Re: 2013 video emerges of Saints' Junior Galette striking woman with belt; NFL aware
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 658465)
Give me 18 sacks this year and we can sweep this under the rug Gallette.

Tell me you don't believe what you wrote, under NO circumstances do you hit a women

blackangold 06-21-2015 11:57 AM

Re: 2013 video emerges of Saints' Junior Galette striking woman with belt; NFL aware
 
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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 658472)
Tell me you don't believe what you wrote, under NO circumstances do you hit a women

It's rezburna...

He's the 1% of the board that wouldn't mind signing Aaron Hernandez when he gets out. There will always be people without moral conviction, to each his own...

If JR had a 50 sack season last year I would still want him gone. Hell, if Brees had all of these off the field issues I would be saying the same thing about him.

WhoDat!656 06-21-2015 12:09 PM

Re: 2013 video emerges of Saints' Junior Galette striking woman with belt; NFL aware
 
Anyone care to make a wager that Kommisar Goodell makes a decision on Junior before Brady?

Lord_Saint83 06-21-2015 12:59 PM

Re: 2013 video emerges of Saints' Junior Galette striking woman with belt; NFL aware
 
My thing is why all of sudden it surfaces after two years. Idk something doesn't add up in that aspect. That should of came out long ago.

brees84 06-21-2015 01:06 PM

Re: 2013 video emerges of Saints' Junior Galette striking woman with belt; NFL aware
 
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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 658475)
My thing is why all of sudden it surfaces after two years. Idk something doesn't add up in that aspect. That should of came out long ago.

Because some idiot said "Fu** Sean".

The Dude 06-21-2015 01:23 PM

Re: 2013 video emerges of Saints' Junior Galette striking woman with belt; NFL aware
 
I wonder what she did this time. He already told her once.

saintsfan1976 06-21-2015 02:05 PM

Re: 2013 video emerges of Saints' Junior Galette striking woman with belt; NFL aware
 
Tough video to watch...

While it's easy to see that Galette hits a woman with a belt twice, we have no context surrounding the events that lead to that video.

I did see a man and woman approaching Galette who both seemed to be in attack mode. This is where Jr. could have and should have back peddled his way out of it.

Instead he lashes out wildly and hits a woman at least once on purpose.

The fact that he re-entered the fight is also bad.

Here's my thing:

If this happened in 2013 when did the NFL receive the tape?

Was it sent to the same office as the Ray Rice video? Same desk? Same person??

Did the NFL see the video and if so, why didn't they take action?

saintsfan1976 06-21-2015 02:10 PM

Re: 2013 video emerges of Saints' Junior Galette striking woman with belt; NFL aware
 
Regardless, the right action is to fine and suspend this kid.

Selfishly, I want his contract voided to protect the team.

If not, have you ever thought of a better reason to burn $10 million?

WillSaints81 06-21-2015 04:00 PM

Re: 2013 video emerges of Saints' Junior Galette striking woman with belt; NFL aware
 
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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 658473)
It's rezburna...

He's the 1% of the board that wouldn't mind signing Aaron Hernandez when he gets out. There will always be people without moral conviction, to each his own...

If JR had a 50 sack season last year I would still want him gone. Hell, if Brees had all of these off the field issues I would be saying the same thing about him.


I remember when he said two offseasons ago we needed to have thu*ggery and nasty players on our team. Or something like that.

nola_swammi 06-21-2015 07:10 PM

Re: 2013 video emerges of Saints' Junior Galette striking woman with belt; NFL aware
 
This happen in 2013 before he signed the contract or disciplinary rules were rewritten. I for one don't excuse his action toward the female but if I was in that same situation I think I'll probably gave her a whipping too. You just don't know what will happen if you amongst a group of individuals who want to do you bodily harm so I give Galette the "American Sniper" pass

blackangold 06-21-2015 11:43 PM

Re: 2013 video emerges of Saints' Junior Galette striking woman with belt; NFL aware
 
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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 658497)
This happen in 2013 before he signed the contract or disciplinary rules were rewritten. I for one don't excuse his action toward the female but if I was in that same situation I think I'll probably gave her a whipping too. You just don't know what will happen if you amongst a group of individuals who want to do you bodily harm so I give Galette the "American Sniper" pass

What is the "American Sniper" pass?

You don't excuse his actions, but then you make excuses for him... lol way to stand your ground there.

jnormand 06-22-2015 12:08 AM

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Aaaaand here we go again. I don't think they're going to keep him around much longer. Ick.

Cruize 06-22-2015 01:02 AM

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Headed to IR. Injury settlement. Gone. Guess/Wishful thinking.

jeanpierre 06-22-2015 04:55 AM

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Junior Galette's lawyer isn't convinced Galette is in beach fight video - CBSSports.com

lawyers...:rofl:

jeanpierre 06-22-2015 05:13 AM

Re: 2013 video emerges of Saints' Junior Galette striking woman with belt; NFL aware
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 658480)
Tough video to watch...

While it's easy to see that Galette hits a woman with a belt twice, we have no context surrounding the events that lead to that video.

I did see a man and woman approaching Galette who both seemed to be in attack mode. This is where Jr. could have and should have back peddled his way out of it.

Instead he lashes out wildly and hits a woman at least once on purpose.

The fact that he re-entered the fight is also bad.

That's a fair, wise approach as due process is a shared value, at least in our part of the country; of course, his lawyers will try to construct a narrative that puts a favorable spin on this; but, as you say, he re-entered the fray...

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 658480)
Here's my thing:

If this happened in 2013 when did the NFL receive the tape?

Was it sent to the same office as the Ray Rice video? Same desk? Same person??

Did the NFL see the video and if so, why didn't they take action?

Great points and question, and that's the elephant in the room, isn't it?!?

Saints sent in the tape per reports, but the exact date hasn't been disclosed, yet...

The NFL owners should have relieved the Commissioner of his duties after he fumbled the Ray Rice, Ravens Disaster where he clearly showed bias and indifference to their organization...

So what is the League waiting on?!? Where's the quick, decisive action?!?

Note: Would a younger, healthier, dare we say 'competent', Tom Benson had stood up and begged that question?!?

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 658481)
Regardless, the right action is to fine and suspend this kid.

The NFL has no stated rules on this, only precedent...

Sadly, we've become a nation ruled by precedent, not concise, clear law...

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 658481)
Selfishly, I want his contract voided to protect the team.

If not, have you ever thought of a better reason to burn $10 million?

This is on Loomis...

This is why you don't rush out and extend a contract because you're concerned about getting out ahead of the cap...

Junior had one season of "Will Smith sack numbers" while even in that season, teams had started to figure out you could run past him...

(defined, Will Smith Sack Numbers are those stats that put a pass rusher among league leaders even though the stats are skewed because they came in bunches against inferior, back-up offensive linemen and said pass rusher was totally ineffective against regular starting offensive linemen; i.e. three, three-sack games and a couple of half-sacks)...

Nonetheless, Saints should never have a player in a contract that doesn't offer the flexibility to move/trade the player or outright release him...

SloMotion 06-22-2015 06:00 AM

Re: 2013 video emerges of Saints' Junior Galette striking woman with belt; NFL aware
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 658442)
One logical reason why the Saints would be sharing this video would be to trigger some sort of moral clause in his contract. If this is the fact then the Saints could vacate some or all of his cap hit ... maybe even the current year's.

Sounds logical.

Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 658480)
Tough video to watch...

While it's easy to see that Galette hits a woman with a belt twice, we have no context surrounding the events that lead to that video.

I did see a man and woman approaching Galette who both seemed to be in attack mode. This is where Jr. could have and should have back peddled his way out of it.

Instead he lashes out wildly and hits a woman at least once on purpose.

The fact that he re-entered the fight is also bad.

Here's my thing:

If this happened in 2013 when did the NFL receive the tape?

Was it sent to the same office as the Ray Rice video? Same desk? Same person??

Did the NFL see the video and if so, why didn't they take action?

Pretty much sums up what I'm seeing in the video ... guy in the blue shorts looks to me like probably the catalyst to the whole situation ... him & Junior (allegedly) are fighting, over what? A woman at the beach? Who knows. Fight breaks up & then he's (blue-shorts guy) at it again with a female, possibly one of Junior's (allegedly) entourage, so Junior (allegedly) re-enters the fray, #shrug. This guy/JG (allegedly) needs to start hanging out with a different crowd, #shrug.

Why'd it take 2yrs to surface? You'd figure if it was JG, the ambulance-chasers woulda' been on it quicker than that, :neutral:.

jeanpierre 06-22-2015 08:00 AM

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Are there that many JG doppelgängers running around?!?

darksoul35 06-22-2015 09:51 AM

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Ive been in a lot of Brawls where Im being out numbered and if u wasn't my click I was swinging regardless of who was approaching, but dude was whoopin asses with belts. That's messed up.

saintfan 06-22-2015 04:27 PM

Re: 2013 video emerges of Saints' Junior Galette striking woman with belt; NFL aware
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 658423)
Question to our legal beagles...

If this wasn't Galette, as his lawyer suggests, can he sue the media for claiming it was him if it wasn't?

Are you kidding? If a lawyer can be found that will bring a case against McDonalds because their coffee is, you know, hot, then a lawyer can be found to sue the pants off the people responsible for "tarnishing his good reputation".

You'll have to forgive me. My experience in Family Court has tainted my view on our "world's best" legal system...

dizzle88 06-22-2015 04:33 PM

Re: 2013 video emerges of Saints' Junior Galette striking woman with belt; NFL aware
 
So if the message of this past offseason was

"You don't belong here if you don't have the right attitude"

Then that to me says that Galettes days SHOULD be numbered.

As much as we like Loomis, he screwed the pooch with this one, wrong guy to give that kind of contract to.

Ashley 06-22-2015 04:57 PM

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done with this dude

brees84 06-22-2015 07:25 PM

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nola_swammi 06-22-2015 09:33 PM

Re: 2013 video emerges of Saints' Junior Galette striking woman with belt; NFL aware
 
He shouldn't be cut. Too many self righteous bs going on in this forum. If you down for getting your arse kick or even worse cause your morals keep you from defending yourself, kuddos to you. When you're in a brawl their is no rules. That female could of easily walked away, instead she chose to get involved. Now with that said I am not trying to say men should beat women, I am saying don't be stupid and let a woman distract you in a brawl that could cause you to be injured or killed if you have to swing a belt profusely to protect yourself, let the leather sting some hide whoever it may be

frydaddy 06-22-2015 10:39 PM

Re: 2013 video emerges of Saints' Junior Galette striking woman with belt; NFL aware
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 658552)
He shouldn't be cut. Too many self righteous bs going on in this forum. If you down for getting your arse kick or even worse cause your morals keep you from defending yourself, kuddos to you. When you're in a brawl their is no rules. That female could of easily walked away, instead she chose to get involved. Now with that said I am not trying to say men should beat women, I am saying don't be stupid and let a woman distract you in a brawl that could cause you to be injured or killed if you have to swing a belt profusely to protect yourself, let the leather sting some hide whoever it may be

Moral obligations and gender consideration all aside for a moment... the problem that remains...and this is a big one... is that as a member of a professional football team you are obligated to keep your stupid ass as far away from trouble as humanly possible, whether it's people or places or both. And if it follows you then you run your stupid ass the other way. Now obviously there may be times where you find yourself in a life threatening situation and you have to defend yourself, this is understandable. Was that the case here? I feel pretty safe in assuming it was not. Looks more like a case of poor decision making. Which you aren't really allowed the luxury of as a professional athlete, especially not anymore.

SloMotion 06-23-2015 04:52 AM

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I can kinda' agree with both of the previous posts ... if he gets cut I think it's more because (as previously pointed out) it's an opportunity for the organization to exercise a morality clause & shed some contract money. As for hitting women, I think we all agree that's generally frowned upon, but I have seen some women put some pretty nasty arse-whippin's on a dude that wouldn't fight back and in this situation, I'm not going to necessarily fault JG for defending himself. You find yourself in a WWF Smackdown like that, you stay on your feet, keep your head up, swing away and don't let anyone come near, :lol:. He definitely shouldn't of come back in & I do hold him responsible for that.

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Originally Posted by frydaddy
... as a member of a professional football team you are obligated to keep your stupid ass as far away from trouble as humanly possible, whether it's people or places or both ...

^^^ This ^^^, :) ... I try to keep this stuff in perspective and think of the 98% or so of professional football players (mostly the offensive lineman ... exception: Incognito, :lol:) who generally abide by this and do stay out of trouble ... gotta' figure there's approx. 1856 (53 man roster + 5 man practice squad) x 32 teams) players in the NFL and it's really a small percentage that are continually involved in crap like this ... at least, that's what I'm trying to focus on, :).

jeanpierre 06-23-2015 07:06 AM

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Galette lawyer laughs off situation

JG lawyers says this has all been one misunderstanding...

What was seen was an attempted 're-boot' or a 're-mix' to a more rap-style version of Devo's 'Whip It'; as most rap mixes today are as incapable as Hollywood in coming up with original material, what we were witnessing was a poorly executed video re-boot shoot of this 80's classic...


RaginCajun83 06-23-2015 09:33 AM

Re: 2013 video emerges of Saints' Junior Galette striking woman with belt; NFL aware
 
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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 658547)

I can't read Payton's mind but I'm just going to guess this is strike 3,4,5 or whatever for this idiot. Come on Saints or NFL make this stupidity stop. The second he's cut no one is going to get a damn about him, think he forgot that a long time ago

jnormand 06-23-2015 11:46 AM

Re: 2013 video emerges of Saints' Junior Galette striking woman with belt; NFL aware
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 658552)
He shouldn't be cut. Too many self righteous bs going on in this forum. If you down for getting your arse kick or even worse cause your morals keep you from defending yourself, kuddos to you. When you're in a brawl their is no rules. That female could of easily walked away, instead she chose to get involved. Now with that said I am not trying to say men should beat women, I am saying don't be stupid and let a woman distract you in a brawl that could cause you to be injured or killed if you have to swing a belt profusely to protect yourself, let the leather sting some hide whoever it may be

I'm tired of seeing his name in the news for the wrong reasons. I understand what a fight is. I also understand a person "protecting" themselves.

Here's my issue: Galette is making headlines on a pretty consistent basis right now. Negative headlines. He's a got a big mouth, an attitude problem and he either gets into trouble regularly or hangs out with people who do. When he wouldn't STFU during the season and was talking about how much better the current players were compared to former players I gave him a pass. Maybe he's just stupid. He got into a domestic situation that I tend to believe the female on. That got swepted under the rug. Maybe that's an isolated incident. Now this.

Look, I know this is in the past. But guys that get into trouble usually stay in trouble. He'll do something else. It's an attitude problem. It's lack of accountability.

It's not my call but I'd be looking at options if I was Loomis.

Danno 06-23-2015 02:36 PM

Re: 2013 video emerges of Saints' Junior Galette striking woman with belt; NFL aware
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 658442)
One logical reason why the Saints would be sharing this video would be to trigger some sort of moral clause in his contract. If this is the fact then the Saints could vacate some or all of his cap hit ... maybe even the current year's.


I'm thinking that the F*** Sean video from a few weeks ago may have played a part in the Saints sending this new video in.

Maybe Sean told Mickey "I don't want this clown on my team anymore, make it happen" and Mickey is pulling out all the stops.

If he's suspended I'm not sure how it effects our cap or how much guaranteed money he's gonna get, but maybe this is how you get rid of him without taking a huge cap hit, or at least minimizing it.

nola_swammi 06-23-2015 04:40 PM

Re: 2013 video emerges of Saints' Junior Galette striking woman with belt; NFL aware
 
I agree he made poor choices but before looking to cut him they should see if they're any other resolutions for his conduct I must admit this the 1st I heard about the F Sean, even if it was him it was someone apart his entourage. I am more disappointed in him on this account than the brawl, that kind of attitude must be corrected or I sadly agree he must go by any cost.

Rugby Saint II 06-23-2015 06:54 PM

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I understand now why we wanted to IR Galette now and why he was fighting it so much.

4everSaint 06-25-2015 07:14 PM

Re: 2013 video emerges of Saints' Junior Galette striking woman with belt; NFL aware
 
Ok, so there is NO WAY to prove he was the one saying F*** Sean in the video I saw. He could of been part of his entourage.

I'm with nola swammi on all of his comments.


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